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Moving to UK from international school abroad

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hummingbirdvn · 12/03/2025 10:17

We're living abroad and children are doing bilingual program at an international school. Their school doesn't do iGCSE and there is limited choice for British education here. American program seems to be much more popular choice.
We don't know if we will move back to UK but we'd like to keep the option open.

So if, say our children continue doing a bilingual / international program following US curriculum, could they move back and join UK schools at Year 9 and Year 12? Will sixth form in UK accept my oldest (year 12) to join A-level without the iGCSE results (she will just have the transcript from their international school - with core subjects like English, Maths, Science, etc.)

Or she will need to self-study iGCSE and sit in iGCSE exams before we're able to move to UK? (I don't know how feasible it would be for her to obtain iGCSE without the school's help as it seems to me UK schools spend the whole 2 years prepping for GCSE)

Another option is that they finish the high school here, obtaining the US equivalent qualification then apply for UK university - how easy it is for them to get accepted to UK university without A-level results?

Any advice would be great.

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DoggerelBank · 13/03/2025 09:27

My DD loved IB. The only downside was that many students, including her, were travelling in from quite far, so there was less of a social life outside school. Fine for her as she had friends in her hometown too, but if you are starting from scratch with friendships after living abroad, it would be better not to have to travel too far into college so you can build up local friends.

ncsurrey22 · 13/03/2025 09:34

I asked a few of our local state sixth form colleges this question as DD is at international school. It is not a problem without GCSEs actually, they all said they just take the school report and translate the grades, you can also get a "grade equivalency" certificate. They might tell you you need a "A" in Maths in the year 11 / 10th grade report to apply for A-Level Maths, for example.

I was surprised how straight forward it was, makes you wonder why others need to stress so much about GCSEs in the first place!

hummingbirdvn · 13/03/2025 09:38

ncsurrey22 · 13/03/2025 09:34

I asked a few of our local state sixth form colleges this question as DD is at international school. It is not a problem without GCSEs actually, they all said they just take the school report and translate the grades, you can also get a "grade equivalency" certificate. They might tell you you need a "A" in Maths in the year 11 / 10th grade report to apply for A-Level Maths, for example.

I was surprised how straight forward it was, makes you wonder why others need to stress so much about GCSEs in the first place!

That is very promising. I didn't grow up in the UK and haven't gone through the GCSE myself but from what I gather in this forum, the process sounds really stressful and competitive and restricts people from moving towns/ schools in all those 3 years (Y9-Y11).

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TheAmusedQuail · 13/03/2025 09:41

You'd be better putting your children into an International Baccalaureate programme than US curriculum. Students from US curriculum are on average 2 years behind UK education standards. Whereas, Middle Years Programme in IB is approximately comparable to the UK system. E assessments at the end of MYP come at the same time as GCSEs.

BUT GCSE is a 2 year programme. So your children need to be in place for the beginning of Year 10 in the UK in order to sit GCSEs at 16 at the end of Year 11. And they will pick their options subjects for GCSE early in Year 9. So at 13.

IF they come to the UK at 18 with US curriculum education, they will need to do a foundation year, making their university degree a 4 year process, rather than the usual UK 3 year programme. This is because of the lower level / standard of the US system. Whereas IB is very broadly equal to UK.

ncsurrey22 · 13/03/2025 09:45

@hummingbirdvn best to ask the sixth form colleges in your target area directly. I definitely know pupils from state schools in Ireland and Netherlands, for example, who were admitted to state sixth form colleges in London.

Here is some info from Esher College which specifically addresses candidates without GCSEs:
https://www.esher.ac.uk/admissions/how-to-apply/entry-in-2025/entry-requirements-2025/

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Entry Requirements 2025 – Esher Sixth Form College

To qualify for a Level 3 Study Programme, you must have a minimum of five GCSEs at Grade 4 or above. GCSE qualifications are the most suitable preparation for s…

https://www.esher.ac.uk/admissions/how-to-apply/entry-in-2025/entry-requirements-2025/

steppemum · 13/03/2025 09:52

I support families moving from overseas to UK, so I do have some experience in this.

Can I just say again, that not all Interanational schools are the same. If your school is not acredited with someone, then the High School certificate is not worth anything in terms of university entrance etc.
Sixth forms may be more flexible, but you do need to check.

IB is not very common. It is hard to find schools which do it. And it always includes a modern foreign language, not at beginners level, so your dd would need that.

Sixth forms can be school based, or they can be a sixth form college. You need to see what is availble in the area that you move to (usually both, but some places have more of one than the other) . Also sixth form applications usually go in in the spring of year 11, and they can be pretty competitive.

In terms of birth date and which year she will go into, anything up to year 11 they will want to put her in the right year for age. The cut off date is 31st August. PP said they are flexible, they aren't. Some places may be, but don't assume it.
But if she has completed the equivalent of year 11, there should be no problem in her going into sixth form early.

Foundation years are usually only in sixth form colleges, not in school based sixth forms. They can be great, but they tend to be designed for kids who have failed English and/or maths so they can't begin an A level or T level course yet (T levels are vocational) it is unlikely that she could do other GCSEs in foundation year, it would be mainly to get English and Maths.

this is the website for comparing qualifications (GCSE equivalents) but it is now paid, so I couldn't find the right page for you

link

In reality, this is going to vary a lot between different schools/colleges and what they are prepared to accept/offer.

DoggerelBank · 13/03/2025 10:25

steppemum · 13/03/2025 09:52

I support families moving from overseas to UK, so I do have some experience in this.

Can I just say again, that not all Interanational schools are the same. If your school is not acredited with someone, then the High School certificate is not worth anything in terms of university entrance etc.
Sixth forms may be more flexible, but you do need to check.

IB is not very common. It is hard to find schools which do it. And it always includes a modern foreign language, not at beginners level, so your dd would need that.

Sixth forms can be school based, or they can be a sixth form college. You need to see what is availble in the area that you move to (usually both, but some places have more of one than the other) . Also sixth form applications usually go in in the spring of year 11, and they can be pretty competitive.

In terms of birth date and which year she will go into, anything up to year 11 they will want to put her in the right year for age. The cut off date is 31st August. PP said they are flexible, they aren't. Some places may be, but don't assume it.
But if she has completed the equivalent of year 11, there should be no problem in her going into sixth form early.

Foundation years are usually only in sixth form colleges, not in school based sixth forms. They can be great, but they tend to be designed for kids who have failed English and/or maths so they can't begin an A level or T level course yet (T levels are vocational) it is unlikely that she could do other GCSEs in foundation year, it would be mainly to get English and Maths.

this is the website for comparing qualifications (GCSE equivalents) but it is now paid, so I couldn't find the right page for you

link

In reality, this is going to vary a lot between different schools/colleges and what they are prepared to accept/offer.

IB is not very common. It is hard to find schools which do it. And it always includes a modern foreign language, not at beginners level, so your dd would need that.
It is usually possible to do a beginner's, ab initio language course to get you up to GCSE standard, instead of an A level equivalent language course for those who are already at GCSE standard.

sashh · 13/03/2025 10:42

I was going to suggest an FE college.

As @steppemum says the 'foundation' is often for resits, most places do English and Maths and usually biology as you need a science for some careers eg teaching.

Often the GCSEs are alongside a level 1 or level 2 qualification.

The US system is broader than the UK so students take more subjects but as a PP said they end up 2 years behind the UK, applicants to uni from the USA are often asked for a number of AP classes.

steppemum · 13/03/2025 10:45

IB is not very common. It is hard to find schools which do it. And it always includes a modern foreign language, not at beginners level, so your dd would need that.
It is usually possible to do a beginner's, ab initio language course to get you up to GCSE standard, instead of an A level equivalent language course for those who are already at GCSE standard.

That's good to know, I didn't realise that

TheAmusedQuail · 13/03/2025 13:21

steppemum · 13/03/2025 10:45

IB is not very common. It is hard to find schools which do it. And it always includes a modern foreign language, not at beginners level, so your dd would need that.
It is usually possible to do a beginner's, ab initio language course to get you up to GCSE standard, instead of an A level equivalent language course for those who are already at GCSE standard.

That's good to know, I didn't realise that

I was about to mention ab initio language at IB. Perfectly acceptable.

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