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Thinking of Queenswood in Herts for DD9

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TheLastNapkin · 29/01/2025 20:08

Does anyone have any thoughts on it? She's a quiet girl, likes reading, maths and netball.
She bright, bit overly so, but is doing well. Will she do well there?
Looking at day places really. We're in South Herts so it makes sense.

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BarqsHasBite · 29/01/2025 22:48

We're in the same boat as you and are considering Queenswood but I have no experience of it so can offer only hearsay.

As you've probably gathered it's insanely expensive, though I gather the facilities are very nice.

It is very sporty - in particular for tennis, and it is not very academically demanding in terms of its entrance exams, and has a reputation for being less academically demanding than other girls indies in the area. So if that's what you're really after then it may not be the best fit for your daughter.

A friend of a friend who has a daughter there and she said it was full of nice but dim rich girls (!), that there had been some issues with discipline and quite a bit of movement of girls and and out of the school. They have a lot of international boarders who tend to stick together, plus the tennis crowd keep with their own too, so it may not leave that many friendship options if you're not in either of those gangs.

That all sounds very negative, but the friend of friend is considering Q for her youngest as she thinks her sporty daughter would be happy there, but is torn as she'd also like more academic stretch.

If you search for Q on MN and on the Eleven Plus discussion forums you'll find there is a fair bit of commentary, much of it pretty positive though some of it now slightly out of date.

Hopefully someone else with some actual experience will be able to comment/tell me I'm completely wrong about it all!

TheLastNapkin · 30/01/2025 07:41

Oh I was looking at their exam results and the value added and they seem to get good grades for kids??? Like average 1 grade higher than their prediction it something? So I thought it would mean they can stretch?

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BarqsHasBite · 30/01/2025 08:35

TheLastNapkin · 30/01/2025 07:41

Oh I was looking at their exam results and the value added and they seem to get good grades for kids??? Like average 1 grade higher than their prediction it something? So I thought it would mean they can stretch?

I’ve seen them mention it on the website though I’ve not seen any value add stats. It could mean that they push everyone, including the most academically able, to get on average a grade higher than predicted.

But it could be that most of their intake is academically pretty average (or on the low side for independents), and that the academically average achieve, say, grades 6 and 7 when they would otherwise be predicted a 5 and a 6. Which is of course an achievement for the school and those girls, but doesn’t necessarily mean the most academically able will be stretched - the focus may well be on “bringing up the middle”.

If you look at their GCSE results the average (mode/middle of the bell curve) is very much around the 6/7 mark for maths, English and combined science, though clearly there are pupils getting the top grades too.

It’s hard to work out with any school (particularly indies which don’t normally publish value add stats) how much of their exam success is down to their intake and how much is down to their teaching.

It’s of course possible to have a top performing school where the teaching is mediocre and the results are largely down to a highly academically selective admissions process, and very able and driven pupils.

All I’d say is that if academics for a bright girl is a key priority then Queenswood isn’t usually the first port of call - it seems to have different strengths. But that’s not to say it would be the wrong school for your DS, I’d just look at a few others (STAHS and Habs being the obvious options), and see how they compare.

RatherBeOnVacation · 30/01/2025 08:36

I have two daughters there and have been exceptionally happy with it.

Yes, fees are expensive, but it reflects not just the facilities but the whole environment. School days are long - ending at 6pm Monday to Thursday - and girls are expected to participate in a lot of extra curricular activities. A long journey there and back on top can take time to adjust to. The majority of co-curricular activities have no extra charge, only when they have to get outside teachers involved or 1-2-1. Residential trips are sensibly priced. I never get shock bills or charges on top of fees.

Size wise it’s big enough that you can find “your people” but small enough to be seen. I feel the teachers know my girls extremely well. There’s an awful lot to be said for that. They really do focus on the needs of the individual.

Academically, yes, it’s not particularly selective. It couldn’t be further from an academic hot house if it tried. But it doesn’t pretend to be. This is a school that doesn’t ask girls to sit formal exams as private candidates if they don’t feel they’re going to get good enough grades. They are what they are. You’d be surprised how many private schools DO actually do this - all is not as it seems at times.

What I can tell you though is the great majority of girls actually exceed academic expectations. They are very good at squeezing an extra grade out. Is it academic enough? Absolutely. We turned down a place at NLCS for my eldest at 11. People told us we were mad to choose Q instead. She got the exact same GCSE grades as if she had gone there so we have no regrets. Only a sense of relief really as she had absolutely none of the stress her friends who did go to very academic schools went through. I see a similar pattern with my youngest with a similar academic profile. Her Y7 was huge amounts of fun - really concentrating on settling in, making friends, getting used to things. Her friend at STAHS was miserable and finding things very hard. Academic children don’t always need to be with other academic children to succeed. Sometimes being towards the top of the cohort is what they need.

The “rich but dim” description is actually pretty ignorant. Yes, parents are monied. A lot live in the Hampstead / St John’s Wood / Islington areas as well as Hertfordshire. Yes, their children invariably didn’t get into Highgate, SHHS, NLCS, Habs or St Albans. A bit of perspective though - lots of children who gain entry to grammar schools don’t get places at these schools either. I’m not sure you’d describe them as “dim”. I think it’s fair to say Q takes girls of average ability and above.

To add that they are also very good at supporting girls with SEN e.g. dyslexia. A girl can be bright but needs help accessing learning in a different way. Many of the top academic schools have rubbish support in this area (that is if they actually offer a place in the first instance).

Sport is inclusive. Yes, they are known for their tennis but this is largely due to the scholars. They spend half their school day playing tennis and are often at competitions so do tend to stick together. There’s also only a handful in each year so it’s hardly a cliquey problem. They also play a lot of netball and hockey. Talented girls play more but there are plenty of opportunities for the recreational player too.

Girls leaving? A lot leave at sixth form. But they do at most all girls schools. The reality is some want to be with boys, some want to move to more local day schools, some transfer to state. Some just want a change. Some don’t make the grade academically.

There are some international girls who come for just a term or a year to improve their English. These are planned short stays. For UK based girls I can count on one hand the number of girls who have left to go to another school in the local area across both my daughters years. Far more girls join than leave. Some international boarders stick together, some mingle with everyone else.

Each year is very diverse in terms of ethnicity and religious background. It feels multicultural and reflective of London demographics. I haven’t come across any issues with discipline. A few items have been “borrowed” without permission but were returned.

Ultimately it’s a school where your daughter will reach her academic potential (even if that’s not a string of 9s), find out who she is as a person and come out the other end happy and confident.

I would say that your gut reaction is always the right one though. For us something felt “off” at NLCS. Can’t put my finger on it. Just Q felt like “the one” from the point we set foot in the door. Only you know what environment will be best fit for your daughter.

BarqsHasBite · 30/01/2025 08:46

Thanks for your more informed view @RatherBeOnVacation . The long days plus the journey home are a bit offfputting for us. Not because my DS would struggle- she can’t get enough extra activities generally (she currently does 3 or 4 just on a Saturday!) but because I fear it would lead to her wanting to board and I’d miss her too much 😭

RatherBeOnVacation · 30/01/2025 11:21

if a girl doesn’t start off boarding, then many choose to do one or two nights later on in their school life. Plenty do no boarding at all!!! I must admit that having said my children will NEVER board, I find myself childless a couple of nights a week 😂😂😂😂

It is actually a real plus of the school - the girls can gain a little independence and it almost certainly helps with the transition to university life. Weekly boarding is quite popular in the sixth form.

It’s not for all but the beauty is in the flexibility. I had to go abroad for a work trip and the girls just had a few nights at school. It was one less thing for me to worry about and the girls had a blast.

Like I said though, plenty of girls never board at all there. It can be helpful if your daughter is hugely involved in co-curriculars.

TheLastNapkin · 30/01/2025 11:49

Oh that's so handy with flexibility for boarding, as I'm sometimes away for work at the same time as DH. She normally would go to GPs, but it's nice to have an option when they're in France. She's had a few sleepovers at friends as a result if GP unavailability.

I shall see what Habs has to offer too.

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RatherBeOnVacation · 30/01/2025 14:16

Habs and Queenswood couldn’t be more different if they tried. From every step of the process.

Habs have so many apply and entrance is so competitive that there is no personal attention until you get much closer to getting a place. You can attend one open day based on the year you want to apply. You can get turned down for a visit if you want to go a year early. The interview if you are successful in the exams is a group one. Parents also have a group interview. It feels like the only aspect they are really interested in is academic performance.

Compare with STAHS who take a far more individual approach when assessing your daughter.

Compare further with Q who will let you visit as many times as you like, invite you to various taster days and events and interview everyone who sits the entrance test. I know they don’t have the same numbers apply so can be a bit more personal, but it gives you the opportunity to really know the school before making decisions. I felt like we didn’t really know Habs at all and we withdrew from the process post interview as we were so not impressed!!!!!

Thiswillbemyyear · 01/02/2025 20:59

We liked Queenswood a lot when we looked around it, it has fantastic facilities. Friends whose children went there I think are happy with the school.

We actually ended up at habs and had a different experience to the above - we were welcomed on open days - including at the boys school as they do more of the sport my DD plays. And we had individual interviews - as did our DD. When the person who interviewed us saw us and DD at the offer day they came straight across to welcome us. I know it’s not the school for everyone but for us it was a good experience and fit. We had a similar positive experience at STAHS.

TheLastNapkin · 02/02/2025 08:28

My friend has a boy at habs junior and says it's really pressured. He's in Y2. She's thinking of taking him out because of it
I wouldn't want that.

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Thiswillbemyyear · 02/02/2025 08:56

That’s not been our experience at the girls school at all - in fact they don’t seem to do all that much work at times!! I have a DS who is in the boys school and again, that’s not our experience. However I do think it suits a certain type of child - it does for us, but may not for others. We chose not to go for the prep school as I felt it was too early to know if they were the right fit at that age. We knew by senior time that it was.

TheLastNapkin · 02/02/2025 14:46

Fairly sure, for all intents and purposes the boys and girls are basically two different schools, that share a name?

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Thiswillbemyyear · 02/02/2025 14:51

No that not the case - they share facilities, teachers, coaches, co ed clubs and sixth form has some co-ed teaching (but not all classes are co ed). They are (slowly) working towards more integration but they are def more than side by side schools.

Thiswillbemyyear · 02/02/2025 14:52

Def worth having a look around it, so that you get answers from the horses mouth so to speak.

Mollymaeandseals · 25/05/2025 23:32

My daughter used to attend queenswood. Nice school with beautiful grounds, great facilities and have good co-curricular options. However if your daughter has any kind of SEN requirement avoid like the plague. My daughter has ADHD but is very quiet and obedient CAMHS sent them a form for the teachers to note any observations, the school refused to do it. My daughter was then resent to the back of the CAMHS list and had to wait three more years. Once again, the school is great but as soon as you start to struggle they don’t want to know. They had different school consuellors every week. They my refused my daughter extra time even though she only manage to completely finished 3 of her end of year exams and had slow processing. We pulled her out in the second term of year 9, best decision, her next school said she was untitled to extra time immediately didn’t make us feel like a burden. Queenswood is a competitive environment, definitely not made for wallflowers, if your daughter is an all rounded and will make the most of all facilities this ia a good decision,

TheLastNapkin · 26/05/2025 06:05

Mollymaeandseals · 25/05/2025 23:32

My daughter used to attend queenswood. Nice school with beautiful grounds, great facilities and have good co-curricular options. However if your daughter has any kind of SEN requirement avoid like the plague. My daughter has ADHD but is very quiet and obedient CAMHS sent them a form for the teachers to note any observations, the school refused to do it. My daughter was then resent to the back of the CAMHS list and had to wait three more years. Once again, the school is great but as soon as you start to struggle they don’t want to know. They had different school consuellors every week. They my refused my daughter extra time even though she only manage to completely finished 3 of her end of year exams and had slow processing. We pulled her out in the second term of year 9, best decision, her next school said she was untitled to extra time immediately didn’t make us feel like a burden. Queenswood is a competitive environment, definitely not made for wallflowers, if your daughter is an all rounded and will make the most of all facilities this ia a good decision,

Well, that's interesting. I was under the impression they actually had a fair amount of extra time kids and the Personalised Learning Centre is doing a great job? I went to the open morning in March and it looked good.

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Rocknrollstar · 26/05/2025 06:55

older granddaughter went to Queenswood. she has Aspergers and anxiety issues. They were absolutely useless and actually admitted that they hadn’t a clue what to do. Used to to just put her in a room on her own.
She eventually went to a special school and is now at Uni. Younger granddaughter is autistic and at Habs and they have been fantastic and can’t do enough. she has great support.

RatherBeOnVacation · 26/05/2025 09:40

@TheLastNapkin The comments about lack of SEN support couldn’t be further from our experience. A significant number of girls get extra time in exams, can use laptops, sit them in a separate room etc. They are extremely good at dealing with helping girls access learning in areas like dyslexia, dyscalculia, slow processing etc.

It sounds like the needs of the girls above were too high for them to be properly supported and that would have been the case at any school, state or private. The fact that one went to a special school after leaving Q should say it all.

I am not negating the personal experiences of others but I would not describe it as a competitive environment in any shape or form and they excel at the pastoral side. I have two daughters there currently, one with mild SEN.

muminherts · 26/05/2025 09:44

A friend’s dd was very happy at Queenswood and did well there. She was just an all round lovely girl, academically middle of the road and went on to be a primary school teacher. She made great friends, a lot of international kids and parents were very happy with the school.

For a dd with SEN I would also look at St Chris Letchworth where the SEN support is excellent and they have a good bus network and shuttle bus set up meeting trains. I will send you a pm.

Mollymaeandseals · 27/05/2025 20:45

Since leaving the school I did a formal complaint to the governors at Queenswood. I met them and helped them rewrite there policy. So I’m very glad to hear it had improved. My daughter does have her struggles but does not have any severe needs so we were disappointed Queenswood could not do the bare minimum. My daughter has friend still at Queenswood, she was diagnosed with severe Hypermobility, so long periods of writing would be very painful. She was told she was entitled to use a laptop in exams. Queenswood refused to let her use a laptop as she needed to give one year notice before exams, this is not true, you only need 6 months and she informed them 8 months before.

bluecurtains14 · 28/05/2025 10:16

TheLastNapkin · 02/02/2025 14:46

Fairly sure, for all intents and purposes the boys and girls are basically two different schools, that share a name?

They are semi merged, all back office functions merged, joint music and sports departments from next year, all sixth formers will have at least one A-level together. I think junior schools more separate at the moment but the direction of travel is for closer links.

ThatRoseExpert · 09/04/2026 07:16

Everything you have said it is True. If you are into sports eg Tennis. The school is not focused on Academics. If you are a parent that is looking for this please look elsewhere and discipline is out the door. My daughter has moved recently

DiamondRBD · 09/04/2026 07:23

A friend of a friend who has a daughter there and she said it was full of nice but dim rich girls (!), that there had been some issues with discipline and quite a bit of movement of girls and and out of the school. They have a lot of international boarders who tend to stick together, plus the tennis crowd keep with their own too, so it may not leave that many friendship options if you're not in either of those gangs.

I went there 20 years ago and this was exactly what it was like then! I ended up going to Oxford and this seemed very unusual in the context of the school (maybe it's not always?) but it certainly wouldn't be at Habs...

TheLastNapkin · 09/04/2026 17:38

ThatRoseExpert · 09/04/2026 07:16

Everything you have said it is True. If you are into sports eg Tennis. The school is not focused on Academics. If you are a parent that is looking for this please look elsewhere and discipline is out the door. My daughter has moved recently

What do you mean about the discipline??

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RatherBeOnVacation · 09/04/2026 17:55

@ThatRoseExpert Surely nobody chooses Queenswood that’s looking for an “academic” school when there’s plenty of those in the surrounding area. Most choose it because it’s great for sporty girls or creative girls who thrive when being able to do what they love at school?

As for discipline, the one instance anything has affected my daughter, it was dealt with quickly and satisfactorily. It’s hardly St Trinians 😂😂😂

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