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Accelerated Reader programme

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greyinganddecaying · 01/10/2022 13:35

Anyone else's school use the Accelerated Reader scheme?

My son has just started year 7, enjoys reading, got "exceeding" (or whatever it's called) in SATS for reading.

He's been put at a reading level for 8-10yo, despite having read a lot of these books in y2. He's also read a lot of the books in the higher age bracket (10-12yo) a couple of years ago.

School have given us very little information about the programme and he's now really demotivated as the books he's being told to read are too easy/boring for him.

I've told him to speak to his teacher, and if necessary I'll contact them too (but trying to encourage him to manage this himself as much as he can).

Does anyone have any information on this reading programme so I can find out a bit more about it?

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AntlerRose · 01/10/2022 13:46

My sons school do this scheme. They have to do quizzes at the end which test their comprehension and vocabulary. I cant rememember if it /the teacher suggested the next book. I seem to think my son could pick any book even if the quiz showed he hadnt understood it.

SweetsAndChocolates · 01/10/2022 14:03

I believe my DS did the same quiz (consisting of comprehension?)
I think he was placed in 8.9-12.5 bracket (something along those lines), and was told he can read any of the books available at the school library (but I believe he was shown books he should consider).
I assumed it was just a guide to help show kids which books they should be reading/aiming for?

AntlerRose · 01/10/2022 14:05

Sorry my post wasnt that clear. I think there is an initial quiz. But tgey sit a quiz at the end of every book they read too.

Artesia · 01/10/2022 14:07

Is it definitely the 8-10 bracket, or level 8-10? They aren't the same thing. It's quite hard to work out what the levels equate to, but I think a rule of thumb is it's approx school years, so level 8-10 books would be what they would expect a year 8-10 child to read.

greyinganddecaying · 01/10/2022 14:07

Thanks!
Is there any information on the reading levels online anywhere? My cynical side wonders if they put kids at a lower level, just to show they've improved later Confused. There's always the possibility that he messed up the test though...

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greyinganddecaying · 01/10/2022 14:19

Artesia · 01/10/2022 14:07

Is it definitely the 8-10 bracket, or level 8-10? They aren't the same thing. It's quite hard to work out what the levels equate to, but I think a rule of thumb is it's approx school years, so level 8-10 books would be what they would expect a year 8-10 child to read.

I looked up the books he'd been given and they gave the age range of 8-10years. Plus he'd read them back in y2.

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3WildOnes · 01/10/2022 15:16

What was his zpd score?
He should be assessed every half term so if he just had a bad day it should rectify soon.

3WildOnes · 01/10/2022 15:18

SweetsAndChocolates · 01/10/2022 14:03

I believe my DS did the same quiz (consisting of comprehension?)
I think he was placed in 8.9-12.5 bracket (something along those lines), and was told he can read any of the books available at the school library (but I believe he was shown books he should consider).
I assumed it was just a guide to help show kids which books they should be reading/aiming for?

If they have a higher score like your son they are usually given a wider range of books they can choose from, say 6-12.5 as there aren't actually that many books with a zpd score over 8.

greyinganddecaying · 01/10/2022 15:21

3WildOnes · 01/10/2022 15:16

What was his zpd score?
He should be assessed every half term so if he just had a bad day it should rectify soon.

We haven't been told his score - or anything other than this is the reading programme they're using.

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3WildOnes · 01/10/2022 15:28

What exactly were you told? That he has a reading age of an 8-10 year old? You are usually give a range of books to choose from, say 3.5-6, and this is based on his zpd score.

Artesia · 01/10/2022 15:40

If you look up his books on the accelerated reader website it should give the ZPD level. Ours are all labelled up on the spine with the level too.

I was sceptical at first but apparently it's all to do with measuring actual understanding of the book rather than whether they can just decode/read the words. So a lot of kids can, for example, technically read Harry Potter in year 2 but just because they can read the words doesn't mean they are understanding and appreciating the nuance of the book.

SamPoodle123 · 01/10/2022 16:10

How is his comprehension? Some kids can read any books, but then struggle to tell you what the book was about and to answer the questions about the book.

CryCeratops · 01/10/2022 16:18

My DC’s schools - both primary and secondary - use accelerated reader.

The kids get a test at the beginning of the year (and a few more times throughout the year) that determine the level of books they get. The tests are based on reading comprehension, so testing the kids understanding of the text rather than whether they can decode the words.

Once the initial level’s been set, they get tested on each book they finish reading. Comprehension tests again. I believe the tests are all done on computers. If they do well on the test, they get points. Once they’ve got enough points, they move up a level.

I did a lot of googling to try and figure out what the levels meant when my DC started this scheme, and as far as I could work it out, the levels sort of correspond with what a child in a USA grade would be expected to manage. So a child on book level 3.6 would be at an expected reading level for USA grade 3 (age 8 - 9).

Winter99Mermaid · 01/10/2022 16:24

I’m cynical they set them lower in year 7 so they “can show progress” 🙄my DD used AR in primary school was 2yrs ahead in reading age then starts secondary school suddenly 2yrs lower but what a surprise after two terms look at the “progress” she’s made … back to where she was at primary. I guess it has a role but it’s just another tick box metric imo
cultivating a love of reading anything is more important not just the books on the AR system! so yes I take it with a pinch of salt.

Rocketclub · 01/10/2022 16:28

Do the AR test yourself and then write an email
explaining this to the teacher
the band is normal huge in terms of range

savehannah · 01/10/2022 16:32

I'm just interested that secondary schools are using any reading programme at all. I've never come across this. Our secondary school just has "silent reading" for an hour a week (literally any book you want). Mind you it is a grammar school so maybe it's because they just assume all students can read at a high level already (even if some never actually pick up a book any other time.....)
In most secondary schools do they use a reading programme across the board or is it something that is specifically for students who need extra help to get to a required level with reading? Genuinely curious.

CryCeratops · 01/10/2022 16:48

@savehannah

DC1’s secondary school has reading lessons timetabled through Years 7 - 9 for all pupils. He gets one reading lesson a week.

The impression I got from the open evening we went to is that the school do this because the general reading ability of new Year 7 pupils isn’t as good as the school would like.

They use the accelerated reader program, so take tests on the books they’ve finished.
From what DC1 tells me, the reading lessons consist mostly of quiet reading, although some children have read to the teacher.

greyinganddecaying · 01/10/2022 18:43

@Rocketclub - do you know where I can get access to the test to do it myself?

The school has kids from a range of backgrounds and abilities, which it why (I think) they're using this scheme.

I've had very little information, no scores, reading ages given etc. All I know that the book range that he's been given/told to pick from are the books he read in year 2. When I looked at the reading age the books are aimed at it says age 8-10.

He's frustrated because even the books at the next level he's already read a few years ago.

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Artesia · 01/10/2022 19:13

Can you give some of the titles of the books he's got?

Giantemadoob · 01/10/2022 19:45

Can you actually tell us his book level? There is no reading age 8-10 on AR. AR reading levels are

LY = Lower Years, ages 5-8;
MY + Middle Years, ages 9-13;
MY+ = Middle Years Plus, ages 12 and above
UY = Upper Years, ages 14 and above.

Within these are book bands such as 4,8 or 3.6. Children find them frustrating when at home they are reading David Walliams which on AR is way over their reading level within the AR scheme but clearly are capable of reading it.

AR serves a purpose, children have to read, finish and then answer questions about a book rather than pretending to read a book over a year. The reading and tests are monitored to identify issues or comprehension skills. The impact in primary school is a huge leap in literacy levels and also their quality of work when writing. I was in school as a volunteer when they brought AR in. Each day they read for 30 minutes and are tested and listened to each week.

For your son, he is on the level he is, therefore he should be able to whip through these books, answer the questions correctly and move onto other books. It does not prevent him reading outside of school where he can read whatever he wants. You should treat it exactly the same as reading a book in English Lit, you may not love it but you have to read it as part of what school want.

To show you the range on AR levels, under Middle Years aged 9-13 we have
Dawn Gray's Pyjamas in Space, book level 6.1, points 7
but also
Boffin Boy and the Time Warriors book level 2.6, points 0.5

Huge difference in book level and the difficulty of the book and yet both are in MY level. Book levels start at 0.1 and in primary we tend to have a large number from 4.0 to 6.0 and then much less 6+ to 8.

It is to do with content, complexity of sentence structure, vocabulary etc. Just because someone can read a book doesn't mean they can comprehend what went on, why someone reacts they way they do to situations, predict what may happen, give a synopsis of what has already happened, make inferences and draw conclusions, ask what a word means, you would be amazed how many children read it but don't know what the word means and don't ask me what it means. They just skip over it. I listen to children read on the AR scheme, I have to ask them these questions including identifying sentence openers like fronted adverbials.

I think this is a good example of why a school uses the AR scheme alwayslearningweb.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/improving-comprehension.pdf

Giantemadoob · 01/10/2022 19:45

@greyinganddecaying

3WildOnes · 01/10/2022 19:47

What is the book range that he has been given?

3WildOnes · 01/10/2022 19:48

Or which books are in his range?

CousinLucy · 01/10/2022 19:59

Hi your son has likely done a reading test to assess his reading age. This generates a ZPD score. His teacher will want his reading age to match up closely with his chronological age so progress is measured specifically for each child. Ask the school for a print out of his reading age. They should give you a graph. Underneath it it will have areas that he will work on by reading the appropriately levelled books for his reading age.

If you think the books are too easy for him he perhaps rushed the reading test. It is an 'intelligent test' of 34 questions, if I remember rightly. If a question is answered correctly then the next question should be harder. Answered wrongly, the next question is a bit easier. I have known children to rush this test (it should not take any shorter than 17 minutes) and it means they're stuck with a lower ZPD score until tested again. We used to test once a term.

AR is a very effective programme for bringing readers' ages closer to, or more than, they're chronological age.

Lastly, short of distracting your son all the way through, the teacher cannot manipulate the data to prove more progress throughout the year. The score can only be generated by your son's reading the test - although I have known parents to do the test for them at home and then the poor child is lumbered with a reading age of 16.6 and the highest ZPD, but cannot read a text in the classroom 🤦

Hope that helps! Ask for a print out.

CousinLucy · 01/10/2022 20:01

They're = their. I teach and examine English. Honest!! 🤣