Help! DD disquialified from year 10 mocks

[ilikechickentacos]

Name change as usually about my ds.
DD finished her year 10 mocks around last week and was disqualified from 3 different ones (luckily school use multiple exam boards per subject so she wants disqualified from extra) all for basically the same reason. I’ve emailed but no reply what do I do? I’m not happy with her one bit

[tinytemper66]

She can't be disqualified from exams that are internal exams.
Only exams that are external can. It may have been said to make sure she understands the severity if she did it in the real exams.

[ilikechickentacos]

Ultimately these mocks were her end of year 10 grades so impact on setting next year. Honestly , I doubt she has Sen wouldn’t it have been picked up by now?

[tinytemper66]

Well if she doesn't learn it will affect her ability to sit a driving test etc if she does it in the real exams and the exam board throws the book at her (as it were)!

[professorpecked]

op what are her plans for after Y11?
Does she want to go to F.E. College, sixth form, apprenticeship?

[Whysoannoying]

I really hate to jump on the SEN bandwagon but the not learning from experience/not getting consequences is quite a recognised trait of ASD. And many girls hide their autism well enough throughout school as they become good at mimicking peers. Is there any chance she could have high functioning autism and it hasn't been diagnosed (as PP has suggested)?

Otherwise she's a bit of a loose cannon and needs strict and firm consequences for her bad behaviour. Good luck!

[Mintandthyme]

You sound very blasé to be honest.
Are you not even mildly concerned about her lack of ability to judge danger?

[lyralalala]

Honestly , I doubt she has Sen wouldn’t it have been picked up by now?

Have you ever flagged up her lack of learning to anyone? Discussed her impulsiveness with the school or GP?

[LillithsFamiliar]

Do you think her memory is awful or that she doesn't understand cause and effect? Have you spoken to her GP about it?

[titchy]

She wants to go to sixth form and study phsycology and two other things she hasn’t decided on yet.

Does she realise that isn't going to happen if she continues?

[Hadenoughofitall441]

That school sounds strict, when I did my real exams i leant back in my chair looked around the room... i only got told to keep my chair on the ground and was never even threatened for being disqualified.

[Whatdoyouknowwhenyouknownowt]

Erm, not read all the posts. You might want to look at ADHD presents in girls & women. Plus if she's bright, it's fairly easy to manage school, up to about this age but due to stress & hormones, it gets harder.

[ilikechickentacos]

I’ll take a look at asd symptoms but I’m not sure. Her impulsiveness has been picked up by school multiple times I’ve never taken her To gp etc because never really seen a huge problem like she doesn’t fight or swear at teachers but she can have a gob on in an argument , shout out sometimes , talk a lot and she definitely buys useless things without a reason but I’ve never really seen it as a problem.

[ilikechickentacos]

Weirdly , she buys things without a reason but can also be indecisive about things at the same time and I think she realises she can’t do physiology ect if she carries on but she either has a very cocky attitude about things as in she knows she will pass or genuinely doesnt realise. This is a conversation yet to be had with her

[Hecateh]

I was thrown out of a mock 'o' level (in the 70's) because I had 'white' tights on - and white tights weren't allowed. They weren't white they were cream.

It was the deputy head that threw me out

The deputy head was my dad - I had sat beside him on the journey to school and and hour later he chucks me out of an exam.

Being 'fair' he didn't even know it was me until he said it, not that that would have made any difference he would have still done it But he was looking at uniform - not who was wearing it.

I was allowed to return and take exam sans tights after removing them in the loo LOL

[SilenceMeansWhatAreTheyUpTo]

Honestly , I doubt she has Sen wouldn’t it have been picked up by now?

My DD's severe dyslexia wasn't picked up until Y10...

[Tunnockswafer]

I'd make an appointment to go in and speak to her head of year or other appropriate person.
Although I think her behaving better is the best option, if she has a record of impulsive behaviour I don't think it's unimaginable that she could be given separate accommodation for exams. Though even then she'd still have to behave sensibly.

[ilikechickentacos]

Really? Im quite astonished. What ages do disruptive tendencies and impulsive ect start being noticed would you say ? Honestly , I hope I can drill into her the sanctions of doing what she did in an exam next time

[oneforthepain]

never really seen a huge problem

Um, what about the broken legs?

Why are you passively waiting for everybody else to step in? You know you can be proactive on her behalf, right?

[ilikechickentacos]

Being completely honest , I don’t think she has Sen but am not going to dismiss your mumsnet concerns of course I just don’t think she does obviously knowing my child potentially giving her a label of adhd or asd doesn’t sound right like it is something I very highly doubt

[kentparent]

Its very refreshing to read a post by someone who doesn't try to defend their child's unacceptable behaviour. My ds 2 was like this, no special learning needs just did not follow rules well. If she wants to study psychology can you link in her exam behaviour with her future goals…means to an end, get these GSCEs then you'll get to do something you really want to do. Also, if she cares about friends etc explain how some people need complete silence to focus or they won't do as well as they want to. Good luck

[lyralalala]

I’ll take a look at asd symptoms but I’m not sure. Her impulsiveness has been picked up by school multiple times I’ve never taken her To gp etc because never really seen a huge problem like she doesn’t fight or swear at teachers but she can have a gob on in an argument , shout out sometimes , talk a lot and she definitely buys useless things without a reason but I’ve never really seen it as a problem.

You never seen a problem in that she hasn’t realised by year 10 that shouting out and chatting in class is an issue?

What have the school said about her impulsiveness?

[ilikechickentacos]

Obviously the broken legs were a problem which I noticed but I just put it down to her own stupidity and clumsiness which is quite common amongst teenagers

[mathanxiety]

I don’t think she will learn as she’s not one to learn from consequences - she is more of a jump off a wall break your leg then do it again when she’s better type of person if you get me ( example used has happened and also has lead me to believe she may not learn )

ilikechickentacos I think you need to get her to an educational psychologist, psychologist, or neurologist for testing - she is exhibiting failure to assess risk properly, impulse control issues, lack of inhibition, problems balancing priorities, and failure to learn from past injury, let alone mistakes.

You are describing many of the hallmarks of ADHD - inappropriate risk taking and disadvantageous decision making are major characteristics.

[blueshoes]

OP, not sure what your issue is here. If it was my dd doing this, I would kick her to the curb and back.

But you don't seem to think that your dd's behaviour (whilst you are not happy with it) is something that is out-of-the-ordinary or SEN or problematic. You seem quite comfortable and blase about the fact she won't learn from her actions and resigned to her impulsiveness.

If you don't take it seriously, why should she? And why should we?

[lyralalala]

This is a conversation yet to be had with her

If you genuinely don’t think there are any SEN issues, and you know her best, when do you plan on having these conversations with her.

She’s year 10. Those conversations need to have been had and repeated and reinforced since it became a problem (it’s minor problems that turn into big ones)