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What is the difference between Public School and Private School?

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SugarSkyHigh · 13/05/2011 19:58

I am told that private schools are fee-paying results-driven sausage factories, and that public schools are concerned with holistic development as well as academic excellence. Could anyone add clarification?

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takeonboard · 23/05/2011 13:05

I thought there were officially 10 public schools (i dont think i can list them though) i think they are mostly in london, all boys schools and not all are boarding - obviously the big 3 are in there - Eton, Harrow, Rugby then there are: Winchester, Charterhouse, Westminster, City of London, St Pauls....thats 8 what are the other 2 anyone???

propatria · 23/05/2011 14:52

Of course they go to a proper public school,if anyone seriously thinks membership of HMC means anything once you are past say 20 or 30 schools then you and those pupils are in for a shock

FluffyHamster · 23/05/2011 15:27

Ah... I see ... you're one of those parents propatria .... yes, glad to be avoiding you in that case, since DS's school is only in the Top 50 (but strangely sent more kids to Oxbridge last year than many of the 'proper' (sic) public schools Wink

propatria · 23/05/2011 16:14

Im delighted you are happy with your school.
No idea what "one of those parents" means but if it means avoiding first time buyers from Surrey then count me in..

mamalovebird · 23/05/2011 16:18

I have always thought that Public schools are paid for by member of the public, ie. the parents of the children who go there, and State schools are funded by the government. I think the term 'private' is the modern term for 'public' school.

feckwit · 23/05/2011 16:25

I thought public schools were so named as they were open to all members of the public rather than being selective by religion? If you could afford, you could go...

propatria · 23/05/2011 16:28

The Govt has no money of its own,it all comes from the public,so I dont see how that definition stacks up,basically if you have to ask if a private, fee paying school is a public school....it isnt...

Plantronic · 23/05/2011 18:49

Private schools = Independent Schools.
Public Schools = the most prestigious private boarding schools based on social cache i.e. snobbery. The refernce to "public" is because when these schools were founded 400-600 yrs ago they were meant to be for the local poor - pretty ironic given they now charge 30k a year.
In the same way that all luxury cars are cars (but the reverse is not true) all "public schools" are private schools but not necessarily vice versa. What is true is many private schools like to describe themselves as public schools as it suggests they are like the schools listed below - i.e. prestigious, beautiful buildings, extensive grounds, social cache - Tom Brown's Schooldays etc; generally being a boarding school is a pre requisite. Historically the snootiest boys public schools were (and probably still are):
Rugby
Eton
Harrow
Winchester
Charterhouse
Westminster (probably most down to earth as predominantly a day school)

Between the six of them their offspring pretty much ran the British Empire and were the template for the whole private and grammar school systems in England.

Others that are also "pukka" are Shrewsbury, Tonbridge, Radley, Stowe, Ampleforth, Oundle, Uppingham, Wellington, Marlborough, Lancing, Hailebury, Clifton, Sherborne and St Pauls. Scotland has its own pecking order.
Sorry dont know wnough about the girls schools to comment.

If you went to any of the above you can safely say you are went to a proper "public school". There are a few oddities like Oakham, Millfield and Gordonstoun which dont really fit the above categories well as they dont really "feel" like stereotypical public schools but are just as successful.

The remaining boarding schools (of which there are many) are really described to the intense irritation of their alumni as minor public schools - generally all are historically copies of Eton or Rugby (this is why most traditional private boarding schools of any note belong to either the "Eton Group" or "Rugby Group". This is all about social pecking order and not academic results - your local grammar probably does as well if not better than many of the schools mentioned above - altho it probably wont have a polo team or beagle pack...

As the above is essentially based on snobbery I tend to avoid the public school term and refer to independent schools. Its also becoming less relevant now as parents are less concerned with "where daddy went" and more interested in league tables - particualrly overseas parents who wont have a clue about the above.

FluffyHamster · 23/05/2011 20:00

Good summary Plantronic - and your last sentence is spot on.

Of course for those people who live out in the sticks (like Truro...) it's easy to lose touch with the real world..

propatria · 24/05/2011 07:16

The real world-Surrey-God help us...

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