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Has anyone set up a property protection trust?

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ssd · 22/02/2025 10:20

Am thinking of doing this but would like to speak to others in Scotland who have already done so.

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RaraRachael · 26/02/2025 16:20

0ctavia · 26/02/2025 15:05

Someone I know did this. She died in her late 30s from cancer.

Even while she was ill, her kids were staying more and more with her parents so he could go to work and then to the hospital to visit her.

After she died, her partner decided he couldn’t bring up her young children alone, so they continued to live with their maternal grandparents.

Then he met someone else and she and her kids into the house with him.

Now her parents are raising her kids but she didn’t leave then any money to them for this - it went to her partner.

And her kids won’t get any inheritance from their mum until their mums former partner dies, so they could be in their 40s or 50s.

It's written in to mine that if my partner had anyone new he would forfeit any right to live in the house.
My kids are both in their 30s now and partner in his 60s

ChilledProsecco · 26/02/2025 19:08

@ssd. The company my parents used to set up the Trust (McClure's solicitors) went in to administration & it was difficult to find another one.

There's been a huge amount of work to track down the old trustees (previous solicitors) to get them to resign from the old trust & set up new trustees, also to find out the contents/investments.

Nearly 4 years later we have not moved forward much. And I don't know the implications of care home fees etc.

ssd · 26/02/2025 19:50

Motheranddaughter · 26/02/2025 15:58

What do you hope to achieve by way of the trust
Most people here are talking about liferent trusts which are often use in a second marriage situation
They are fraught with difficulties

I think it is a liferent trust, is this not the same as a property protection trust?
Im really surprised as the previous thread i was on loads of posters had them and recommended them

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RaraRachael · 26/02/2025 19:59

Mine was drawn up by a local solicitor and didn't involve much as they just copied what had been in my mother's one

JamMakingWannaBe · 26/02/2025 20:30

Speak to a Will writer. Depending on how you own your property you can leave your share to your DC in your Will. Their "half" will just have to be "managed" until they come of age. You need to consider how DC will pay for maintenance, repairs and insurance for a property they now part own. Who decides what repairs are required? What about upgrades? You need to consider what happens when DC1 comes of age and wants their share but DC2 is say 2 years younger. Where does DC2 live if the house is sold? Also DC lose any "First Time Buyer" mortgage rates etc if they already own / part own a property.

Try posting in Legal. I'm sure there are Scottish based experts on that board.

ShinyClouds · 26/02/2025 20:46

Do you not trust your DP to do the right thing by your DCs @ssd ?

RaraRachael · 26/02/2025 20:48

Under Scottish law you can contest monetary issues after a death but not property so best to get it down on paper officially.

Quitelikeit · 26/02/2025 20:56

@ShinyClouds and nor should she put her trust in him to do right by her children

She is doing the right thing by having something legal drawn up

And op do include that if he remarries or wishes to cohabit the house must be sold

Also include that whilst he stays there he is responsible for the upkeep and maintenance of the property

Failure to maintain should trigger a sale

Infact just give him 6 months after your death to then sell up everything else is too stressful 😂

Motheranddaughter · 26/02/2025 21:00

If it’s a second marriage I can understand a mother having their concerns
But if not the downsides of a trust probably outweigh the risks

ShinyClouds · 26/02/2025 21:02

Quitelikeit · 26/02/2025 20:56

@ShinyClouds and nor should she put her trust in him to do right by her children

She is doing the right thing by having something legal drawn up

And op do include that if he remarries or wishes to cohabit the house must be sold

Also include that whilst he stays there he is responsible for the upkeep and maintenance of the property

Failure to maintain should trigger a sale

Infact just give him 6 months after your death to then sell up everything else is too stressful 😂

But that’s not possible if he owns a share of the house. No trust can remove his ownership

Or if they’re married, when he’d entitled to a share of the property

Quitelikeit · 26/02/2025 21:10

Yes but some wives leave the property to their husband on the belief he will give it to their/her children when he passes

All too often another woman will come sniffing round and before you know it he remarries her and she gets the lot

This is why OP must protect her half of the house regardless of what her man says he will do with it after her death

littlebilliie · 26/02/2025 21:18

Don't bother

ShinyClouds · 26/02/2025 21:24

Quitelikeit · 26/02/2025 21:10

Yes but some wives leave the property to their husband on the belief he will give it to their/her children when he passes

All too often another woman will come sniffing round and before you know it he remarries her and she gets the lot

This is why OP must protect her half of the house regardless of what her man says he will do with it after her death

No, if he owns half then that’s not what you’re talking about. And spouses are entitled to a proportion of heritable property.

This kind of chat is why @ssd needs proper legal advice from a Scottish solicitor

ssd · 26/02/2025 21:35

ShinyClouds · 26/02/2025 20:46

Do you not trust your DP to do the right thing by your DCs @ssd ?

Its got nothing to do with trust. I know if i went first dh would meet someone nice and marry again, she would probably be younger with her own kids, then if he died first she'd get everything and my kids wouldn't get anything unless she decides to share.
Ive seen it happen to friends firsthand and i want to prevent it if i can.

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ShinyClouds · 26/02/2025 21:48

If you’re married it’s difficult to do this.

Maybe look at a post nuptial agreement?

ssd · 27/02/2025 10:43

@ShinyClouds , are you a solicitor or a will writer? Only I'm confused with your answers here. If you are just giving your opinion that's fair enough, but if you work in this profession I'd be grateful if you could explain your replies. Thank you.

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ShinyClouds · 27/02/2025 12:19

You need to go and see a solicitor @ssd

ssd · 27/02/2025 15:16

Will do, thanks.

I just wanted to ask on here if anyone had experience before i speak to someone.

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ShinyClouds · 27/02/2025 16:18

I’d tell them what you’d like to achieve and then they will be able to advise you of the best way to do that, and if it’s possible and also cost effective. Good luck

ssd · 27/02/2025 16:22

Thank you.

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