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Considering moving next to carpentry

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 08:29

Does anyone know if it’s safe living next to an industrial extractor from a carpentry/joinery? We moved up from london to be near family during the pandemic. My dad recently passed away and a bungalow has come up for rent near my mum. The issue is it backs onto a bespoke carpentry and the garden is tiny. The extractor stands above the fence so effectively might as well be in the garden. We’re concerned about toxicity. At the moment we’re 15 mins walk away, however if we moved we’d be across the road which would obviously be more convenient.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 08:31

We have to decide today as we have to give one months notice

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Dartmoorcheffy · 31/07/2023 08:32

I would be concerned about the noise levels.

LizzieSiddal · 31/07/2023 08:35

Have you been there when the extractor is working so you can see what happens?

Could you extend the fence so it’s higher than the fan?

LizzieSiddal · 31/07/2023 08:36

And yes noise be an issue.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 08:37

Understandably and that is an issue for us because of the nature of our work but that would be outweighed by proximity to my mum. It’s the toxicity that worries us, as the workshop extractor is opposite the bedroom window.

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TheFlis12345 · 31/07/2023 08:37

Our neighbour does woodwork as a hobby and his lathe is noisy enough, no chance I would live by an industrial version!

queenrollo · 31/07/2023 08:38

It will be noisy. If it’s got an industrial extractor it’s going to have machinery for working the wood and some of that will be noisy.

AbsoIutelyLovely · 31/07/2023 08:39

no chance.

DivineLillith · 31/07/2023 08:39

I would not deliberately move next to any potentially noisy business whatsoever. One of my neighbours uses a lathe, it’s very occasional fortunately. Think he has a hobby so may use it two days in a row and then it’s weeks or months till next use. It’s in his enormous shed and we have quite a long garden but it’s so loud.

Even if not toxic assume smell of varnish or treatments used would push out of fan. No way would I rent the house.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 08:39

going there again today hoping to see it working. The extractor belongs to the carpentry business not the bungalow. Love the username!

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 08:43

Current Tennant said the extractor fan is noisy, she didn’t mention the workshop but I will check maybe it has good insulation. As I said, I understand noise can be an issue it’s more the possible smell/emissions that concern us

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GiddyGladys · 31/07/2023 09:38

I would t want to breathe that in but I'm pretty risk adverse with that sort of stuff. I would love near a pylon or have a wood burner for example.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 10:20

GiddyGladys · 31/07/2023 09:38

I would t want to breathe that in but I'm pretty risk adverse with that sort of stuff. I would love near a pylon or have a wood burner for example.

Yes we're pretty risk averse too it's just that the bungalow is so near my Mum. If the emissions are xontrolled/filtered to make them safe it could be OK?

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 10:26

LizzieSiddal · 31/07/2023 08:35

Have you been there when the extractor is working so you can see what happens?

Could you extend the fence so it’s higher than the fan?

That's a good idea although presumably the fence belongs to the workshop or the landlord. Hoping to visit today and might even be courageous and ask in workshop. Big Lizzie Siddal fan here - saw her artwork at the Lady Lever gallery in Liverpool.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 10:32

DivineLillith · 31/07/2023 08:39

I would not deliberately move next to any potentially noisy business whatsoever. One of my neighbours uses a lathe, it’s very occasional fortunately. Think he has a hobby so may use it two days in a row and then it’s weeks or months till next use. It’s in his enormous shed and we have quite a long garden but it’s so loud.

Even if not toxic assume smell of varnish or treatments used would push out of fan. No way would I rent the house.

DivineLilith (I'm so impressed with the user names on this thread!) You don't live in Palmers Green do you?! Sounds like your neighbour with the long garden and the lathe could be a friend of mine! The noise could be annoying especially as we work in music but then we could wear headphones and we would be willing to put up with that for the sake of being so near my Mum. We're not buying it or considering it's a permanent move. According to the current tenant it's the fan that is noisy, and it's not on all day.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 10:39

queenrollo · 31/07/2023 08:38

It will be noisy. If it’s got an industrial extractor it’s going to have machinery for working the wood and some of that will be noisy.

yes it could be couldn't it, although the tenant didn't mention noise from the workshop, just the noise from the fan. Think we'll take a trip round there today and have a listen!

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 13:39

So I called into the workshop- the extractor fan is for paint and varnish fumes- there are no filters so the fumes go into the atmosphere presumably and it isn’t used for sawdust. It isn’t on every day he says it depends what jobs they have on but it could be on for three days straight then not on for a month.

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osprey24 · 31/07/2023 14:49

is a business allowed to exhaust paint and varnish fumes without filters? I would have thought that would breach health and safety rules.

Zepherine · 31/07/2023 14:52

I wouldn’t do it. Noise but also risk of emissions. It’s an extractor fan so must be extracting something. Can you talk to the carpenters to find out more?

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 14:52

osprey24 · 31/07/2023 14:49

is a business allowed to exhaust paint and varnish fumes without filters? I would have thought that would breach health and safety rules.

I've no idea :/ - I'll try to find out

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Aquamarine1029 · 31/07/2023 14:56

So the fan would be belching out paint and varnish fumes right next to your bedroom window?

Hard pass.

alloalloallo · 31/07/2023 15:05

osprey24 · 31/07/2023 14:49

is a business allowed to exhaust paint and varnish fumes without filters? I would have thought that would breach health and safety rules.

Yes, I agree

We have a big CNC machine at work with an extractor fan that vents out the back of our building

It filters everything. Any sawdust gets caught in the filter and goes into a bin and the whole thing is emptied, filters changed and serviced regularly.

It’s noisy though, so I’d be put off by the noise more than I would the thought that anything would be belching out of it.

User6424678852 · 31/07/2023 15:09

If it’s literally just for ventilation and it’s a small workshop it wouldn’t bother me. How is that any different to them doing it outside if it were a sunny day? I’m assuming this is a little 1-2 man set up and not a large operation. So they are eg French polishing a dining table once it’s finished.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 15:57

Zepherine · 31/07/2023 14:52

I wouldn’t do it. Noise but also risk of emissions. It’s an extractor fan so must be extracting something. Can you talk to the carpenters to find out more?

I’ve just spoken with them snd that’s what they told me. There are no filters and the extractor is used for paint and varnish fumes. He said it isn’t used every day-as more paint and varnish is becoming water-based- it might not be used for a month and then used fir three days straight.

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Renterbella · 31/07/2023 16:07

Aquamarine1029 · 31/07/2023 14:56

So the fan would be belching out paint and varnish fumes right next to your bedroom window?

Hard pass.

Yes that’s the dilemma. On the other hand if voc’s are expelled into the atmosphere do they dissipate. I don’t particularly want to compromise our health. The reason for moving is proximity to my recently widowed mother.

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