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Water-torturer husband stories

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Chuckyleg · 25/07/2020 14:45

Share your water-torturer stories?

I end up feeling pathetic after I've got angry or upset with DH for his little wind-up behaviours. I recently came across this term and I'm sure this is how DH is behaving.

This morning, I put the kettle on, only for him to come up behind me 10 seconds later to switch the kettle on too. The blue light had come on and it had started to make a low noise after I pressed it.

I said to DH "Dont worry, I've already pressed it."
He says "you hadn't" with an ear-to-ear silly grin on his face.
I say "no I had the light had come on."
He starts laughing loudly and saying "nope. You hadn't" repeating himself over and over. I know I should let it go, but I start feeling angry that he's making out I'm senile when I know for a fact that I'd switched it on.

I ended up reacting very emotionally and feel ridiculous, particularly when he then pipes down and says "ok, ok it's only a kettle."

I want to punch him when he's sporting that stupid smug grin on his face.

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fuckinghellapeacock · 25/07/2020 16:17

FFS I can't stand this sort of crap, what a waste of time and energy.

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SmileyClare · 25/07/2020 16:18

Water torture is the constant drip drip of repetitive behaviour ok that makes sense. If you take the kettle incident, it's such a little thing but I can see how an accumulation of fairly "trivial" things like this would be mental torture. It's quite chilling.

I clicked on the thread wondering if someone's husband was recounting tales of actually water boarding people.

Op has he always done this? I'm not sure anything you do will change his behaviour.

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popcornlover · 25/07/2020 16:27

He is very competitive in day-to-day life. He takes great pleasure in the whole "you're wrong and I'm right" situations.

He calls it banter. I call it exhausting.


OP, but this is what quite a lot of men are like (as evidenced with the replies on this thread). You, and other women, really have to learn what to look out for before you marry them. These men are pretty easy to spot. You really have to understand some men want inferior women, and hate any sign that you’re not. I’d never put myself in that situation.

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Smallsteps88 · 25/07/2020 16:30

You, and other women, really have to learn what to look out for before you marry them.

There you go OP! Sorted- just look out for it before you mar..... oh... umm Hmm

@popcornlover not helpful!

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MashedSpud · 25/07/2020 16:32

Gaslighting.

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AcrossthePond55 · 25/07/2020 16:35

As hard as it is, for now you need to ignore him, don't rise to his taunts. You know what you did/didn't do, so just be confident in that. You don't need him to agree with you to know you are right. Don't try to argue or prove your point. He won't listen since his only point is to prove you wrong or 'defective' in some way.

Right now you have bigger fish to fry. As in why are you there and why do you stay? Are there children? Are you financially dependent? Are you afraid of him?

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Craftycorvid · 25/07/2020 16:35

Interesting position on abusers being ‘easy’ to spot. Their playbook can often include being charm personified at first and only gradually upping the ante when they feel safe to do so.

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BoggledBudgie · 25/07/2020 16:37

@popcornlover you really are quite the idiot aren’t you?

@OP he’s a wanker Flowers

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category12 · 25/07/2020 16:39

Now you're recognising what he's doing, what's the plan?

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SmileyClare · 25/07/2020 16:40

These men are pretty easy to spot. I'd never put myself in that position Wow you're smug. Let's all blame the women then.

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namechange12a · 25/07/2020 16:42

Blaming women for their own abuse and deaths, does seem to be the trend, I believe.

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MitziK · 25/07/2020 16:49

@Chuckyleg

Share your water-torturer stories?

I end up feeling pathetic after I've got angry or upset with DH for his little wind-up behaviours. I recently came across this term and I'm sure this is how DH is behaving.

This morning, I put the kettle on, only for him to come up behind me 10 seconds later to switch the kettle on too. The blue light had come on and it had started to make a low noise after I pressed it.

I said to DH "Dont worry, I've already pressed it."
He says "you hadn't" with an ear-to-ear silly grin on his face.
I say "no I had the light had come on."
He starts laughing loudly and saying "nope. You hadn't" repeating himself over and over. I know I should let it go, but I start feeling angry that he's making out I'm senile when I know for a fact that I'd switched it on.

I ended up reacting very emotionally and feel ridiculous, particularly when he then pipes down and says "ok, ok it's only a kettle."

I want to punch him when he's sporting that stupid smug grin on his face.

Don't bother punching him.

Just file for divorce. And when he wants to know what the fuck that's all about, reply 'Don't know what you're talking about'.
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Beechview · 25/07/2020 16:50

I agree to ignore this behaviour. Don’t try to argue his point. You know you’re right and he’s an arse.
The problem is that he may ramp up the abuse if he realises what he’s doing isn’t affecting you so you need to be careful.
The only way to be safer is to leave him.

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Thislittlelady · 25/07/2020 16:52

NC. I can’t believe what I’m reading. My dh does this. Tells me I haven’t checked something when I have. Asks me if I put the washing on then checks the machine anyway.... reads instructions for cooking after I’ve told him them.....insinuates I had no intention of buying something if I genuinely forget ( ie the shopping). Tells me there’s nothing in the loft when there’s a whole family of fucking squirrels in there....little things. Lots of little things.....I thought he was just being annoying .... he smiles smug like I’m an idiot.....am I paranoid? Is this actually abuse?

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category12 · 25/07/2020 16:58

@Thislittlelady

THE WATER TORTURER [Lundy Bancroft, Why Does He Do That?]





The Water Torturer's style proves that anger doesn't cause abuse. He can assault his partner psychologically without even raising his voice. He tends to stay calm in arguments, using his own evenness as a weapon to push her over the edge. He often has a superior or contemptuous grin on his face, smug and self-assured. He uses a repertoire of aggressive conversational tactics at low volume, including sarcasm, derision—such as openly laughing at her—mimicking her voice, and cruel, cutting remarks. Like Mr. Right, he tends to take things she has said and twist them beyond recognition to make her appear absurd, perhaps especially in front of other people. He gets to his partner through a slow but steady stream of low-level emotional assaults, and perhaps occasional shoves or other minor acts of violence that don't generally cause visible injury but may do great psychological harm. He is relentless in his quiet derision and meanness.



The impact on a woman of all these subtle tactics is that either her blood temperature rises to a boil or she feels stupid and inferior, or some combination of the two. In an argument, she may end up yelling in frustration, leaving the room crying, or sinking into silence. The Water Torturer then says, See, you're the abusive one, not me. You're the one who's yelling and refusing to talk things out rationally. I wasn't even raising my voice. It's impossible to reason with you.



The psychological effects of living with the Water Torturer can be severe. His tactics can be difficult to identify, so they sink in deeply. Women can find it difficult not to blame themselves for their reactions to what their partner does if they don't even know what to call it. When someone slaps you in the face, you know you've been slapped. But when a woman feels psychologically assaulted, with little idea why, after an argument with The Water Torturer, she may turn her frustration inward. How do you seek support from a friend, for example, when you don't know how to describe what is going wrong?



The Water Torturer tends to genuinely believe that there is nothing unusual about his behavior. When his partner starts to confront him with his abusiveness—which she usually does sooner or later—he looks at her as if she were crazy and says, What the hell are you talking about? I've never done anything to you. Friends and relatives who have witnessed the couple's interactions may back him up. They shake their heads and say to each other, I don't know what goes on with her. She just explodes at him sometimes, and he's so low-key. Their children can develop the impression that Mom blows up over nothing. She herself may start to wonder if there is something psychologically wrong with her.



The Water Torturer is payback-oriented like most abusive men, but he may hide it better. If he is physically abusive, his violence may take the form of cold-hearted slaps for your own good or to get you to wake up rather than explosive rage. His moves appear carefully thought out, and he rarely makes obvious mistakes—such as letting his abusiveness show in public—that could turn other people against him or get him in legal trouble.



If you are involved with a Water Torturer, you may struggle for years trying to figure out what is happening. You may feel that you overreact to his behavior and that he isn't really so bad. But the effects of his control and contempt have crept up on you over the years. If you finally leave him, you may experience intense periods of delayed rage, as you become conscious of how quietly but deathly oppressive he was.



This style of man rarely lasts long in an abuser program unless he has a court order. He is so accustomed to having complete success with his tactics that he can't tolerate an environment where the counselors recognize and name his maneuvers and don't let him get away with them. He tends to rapidly decide that his group leaders are as crazy as his partner and heads for the door.



The central attitudes driving the Water Torturer are:



• You are crazy. You fly off the handle over nothing.



• I can easily convince other people that you're the one who is messed up.



• As long as I'm calm, you can't call anything I do abusive, no matter how cruel.



• I know exactly how to get under your skin.

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category12 · 25/07/2020 17:02

And look up gas-lighting.

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namechange12a · 25/07/2020 17:03

@Thislittlelady you're in an abusive relationship. Put the family of squirrels in bed with him and pretend you can't see them.

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Thislittlelady · 25/07/2020 17:07

I feel so stupid right now

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Thislittlelady · 25/07/2020 17:07

And my NC didn’t work Sad

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Worried234 · 25/07/2020 17:08

This is classic Gaslighting. I'd be trying hard to get away from him. Please don't underestimate this.

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NeutrinoWrangler · 25/07/2020 17:09

I'd probably blow up at him, honestly. Not sure it would do any good, but that kind of nonsense infuriates me.

For the longer-term fix, I'd have a serious conversation. You don't see it as banter, so it's not banter. If he cares about you, he'll stop. You'll have to point it out to him to start with, if it's become such a habit with him, but if he's willing to stop, that's what's important.

If he refuses to stop, I'd start just ignoring him, if I wanted to take the high road. Or if not, I'd do something that I knew he hated, as revenge. (Or even insist on counselling or leave him, if it's symptomatic of larger problems.)

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fflelp · 25/07/2020 17:09

He's prize prick of the week.
I wouldn't be able to stand that sort of thing.
Does he do this with lots of things? I think he's doing it deliberately to get a reaction out of you and to make you feel unsure of yourself.

What if you just said to him "You're right. I hadn't switched it on". Even if he's not right because you had switched it on. What's he going to say that? It stops the nonsense in it's tracks.
I'd probably just not respond at all. Just do not react to this nonsense at all.

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tracyon · 25/07/2020 17:13

Yes . Gaslighting. Often part of narcissistic abuse- look that up too.

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lottiegarbanzo · 25/07/2020 17:15

He wants to be right (believe himself to be right, regardless of whether anyone else agrees) more than he wants to have friends, especially a girlfriend.

Make his wish come true. He can have a lovely time feeling right, all by himself.

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853690525d · 25/07/2020 17:16

I'm uncomfortable with your stance here. This isn't ok. Why are you starting a thread asking for similar stories when you're clearly in a pickle and need to reconsider your relationship? This is not a time for a moan. You need to learn about emotional abuse and make some choices.

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