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Ex is back asking for another chance, so torn on what to do

104 replies

AnnaJou · 02/04/2020 11:39

Hi all, I am new to this forum and I just signed up to start this thread. I am in real need of advice.

6 months ago I was dumped out of the blue by my then-boyfriend after 18 months together. We met very shortly after he ended a 16 years marriage with 3 kids. His life was understandably a mess. He is 14 years older than me, and a good, honest person I think. I am 32, no kids, never been married, a good stable job, financially independent, and reasonably good looking.

The relationship was a whirlwind experience, we fell madly in love quickly and were crazy about each other. Sex was amazing, big love declarations after a few months, blissful happiness. With the benefit of hindsight, I know, it was probably a rebound for him, although at the time the feelings felt very real. The relationship had a lot of logistic limitations as he had his DC 50% of the time, so we could only see each other a couple of times a week, but we managed. I never met his DC as we both felt the time wasn't right yet.

6 months before he broke up with me, his life took a turn for the worse, he quit his job and couldn't find another one, his ex-wife started talking about moving to a foreign country with the children, his financial circumstances got difficult and he started struggling with depression and anxiety. He started displaying worrying behaviors like not getting out of bed and not leaving his place for days, OCD tendencies, inability to sleep at night. With the benefit of hindsight, I also realise that the relationship was entirely on his terms, since I was so conscious of the fact that he was going through a difficult time, so everything revolved around him, his schedule with the DC, his mental struggles, his moods. I felt the responsibility to cheer him up and help him get his life back on track

Eventually he ended it in a very dramatic way, saying that he loved me to death but he couldn't handle the pressure of a relationship on top of all the other pressures he had in his life, and that he couldn't offer me what I deserved, and that he couldn't stand the idea that he kept failing to make me happy. He said perhaps he wasn't ready for a relationship and he needed time to sort his life out. All very dramatic and martyr-like.

This came out of the blue and it really knocked me for six. I had a horrendous couple of months, I just couldn't believe he could give up on "us" so easily. After a while, I pulled myself together, felt better, got out there again, and started dating. 2 months ago I met a lovely guy who I have been going out with. I really like him, we have a great time together and I think things look promising. He is also around my age, no kids, no previous marriage, good job, financially stable.

However, a few days ago I got an email from ex-boyfriend, who essentially said that he has spent the last 6 months working on himself and doing therapy, he feels much better, he is actively looking for a job and feels like he's got his shit together. He has never stopped loving me and hopes I would consider giving him another chance, even though he understands if I never want to speak to him ever again.

I am so lost now. I haven't replied yet, as I don't know what to say. On one hand, my feelings for him are still there, and my heart aches at the idea of saying no. I so wanted our relationship to work out. On the other hand, my head tells me that that relationship was never going to work out anyway, as there were so many challenges: different life stages, different lifestyles, his parental responsibilities, his emotional baggage.

New guy is so nice, it is still early days but I think the relationship has a much better chance of long term happiness. I feel so torn.

What do I do? Confused

Thanks!

OP posts:
BackseatCookers · 02/04/2020 18:03

Thanks @Sewingbea it never fails to amaze me how absolutely textbook people like OP's ex are.

It's cringeworthy how much they follow the script to the letter isn't it?

I remember betting my mate a bottle of wine what the next few messages from her ex would be at one point and then getting sozzled with her because he followed the script perfectly...

  • I would never do anything like that I'm offended you've even though that I would
  • Can't believe you don't even care enough to reply
  • This is why I have to lie about stuff you're mental
  • Can't even reply? Guess you didn't give a shit that's probably why I looked at elsewhere
  • Sorry I didn't mean to be angry it's just because I love you so much
  • I haven't been like this with anyone else, you make me like this
  • I didn't want you anyway you're a fucking psycho

Few weeks later... I'll do anything I just want you back.

Yawn yawn yawn... next!4

forumdonkey · 02/04/2020 18:56

@MzHz 100%

Each person you meet teaches you something, a lesson which you need to learn but move on from until you find the person all the lessons have lead you to be as a person and the person who enhances and complements you as that more learned individual

Just like what the song says, Thank you, next.

Nandocushion · 02/04/2020 18:56

Reading this over again, and what you say about his work history, I bet he didn't end his marriage. I bet she dumped him because he is such a loser and she got fed up being the adult in the relationship.

forumdonkey · 02/04/2020 19:18

@BackseatCookers fantastic post. Absolutely spot on and please read and reread OP

rvby · 02/04/2020 19:28

Don't you dare prioritize someone who has so clearly shown you that you are just an option to them!

This guy sounds like a chronic waster who happens to be middle class so he mostly can pull the wool over people's eyes.

He almost definitely had a prospect he wanted to pursue, so he binned you off, assuming he could snap his fingers later if things didn't work out with the new lass. He binned off his wife and kids, his stable job, and you... do you really think he won't repeat history over and over?

And he sounds like a classic love-bomber and future faker.

I recommend you google "baggage reclaim blog" and read some posts on there...

You deserve comfort and stability with a partner op! Please don't let this waster back into your life

Theworldisfullofgs · 02/04/2020 19:36

Why did he split up with his ex?
Was it the same kind of reason as when he left his job?

What do you want for your life?
Do you want children?
Are you prepared to be a step parent (read the board on here)?
Do you want a relationship where you are a constant support to the other person?

Stay with the new guy...it sounds much more like an adult relationship and they are the ones that last the distance. (which believe me when you've been married for 20 plus years and you are in isolation with them, is the best kind). Believe me you want a partnership...

PieceOfMaria · 02/04/2020 20:16

Why did he split up with his ex?
Was it the same kind of reason as when he left his job?

Oh here we go. Let's assassinate the character of a man we don't know. IT doesn't matter why he left his wife, or his job. All we know is that he had a mental breakdown and his wife threatened to take the children abroad.

There are many reasons why the OP is better off not going back to him, but none of those reasons make him a terrible person who should not to be trusted - just human and imperfect.

Theworldisfullofgs · 02/04/2020 20:18

No it's looking for patterns of behaviour Hmm

PieceOfMaria · 02/04/2020 20:20

This guy sounds like a chronic waster who happens to be middle class so he mostly can pull the wool over people's eyes.

And again....how would we react to a woman who struggled to keep up a full time job and had a mental breakdown after her ex threatened to take her children abroad, when she has them 50% of the time?

I'm not defending the man - I don't know him. But let's keep some perspective here and not sentence him to death by kangaroo court eh?

NotStayingIn · 02/04/2020 20:34

@BackseatCookers thats such a helpful post!

OP hope you don’t get back with the ex. Must be really hard but I don’t think it will do you any favours in the long run.

PicsInRed · 02/04/2020 20:39

Who was that self absorbed old cunt who jilted Edith Crawley at the alter?

Your old guy is him.

Stick with new guy.

GatoradeMeBitch · 02/04/2020 20:46

If you turn him down - and I hope you will - don't offer any explanations, keep it very brief. Just say you've moved on but you're pleased to hear he's doing well and you wish him all the best. If he spent most of your relationship calling the shots he'll probably think he can browbeat you into coming back so don't give him anything he can use.

And even if you didn't have the new man, you still shouldn't go back to him!

MulticolourMophead · 02/04/2020 23:37

All we know is that he had a mental breakdown and his wife threatened to take the children abroad.

No, we don't actually know that. This is what he's been telling OP. We, and OP, don't actually know this to be true. It could all be part of the sob story he fed to the OP.

SmokedGlass · 02/04/2020 23:52

Why would you even contemplate this?
He hurt you and now you are recovering, your new relationship sounds much more adult and normal
Give your new guy a chance, you don’t need all that shite drama in your life
Start a new one, take the second chance you have been given and don’t look back

pisces12 · 03/04/2020 04:16

Stay with current guy, if it doesn't work out reply to the email

FagashJackie · 03/04/2020 04:48

Weird pieceofmaria I don't know why you're making excuses, have you read the thread?

VadenuRewetje · 03/04/2020 05:06

its great for him that he has got himself a bit more together and feels better now, that's great. however, all the things he has overcome are only secondary issues to the chronic narcissism which he hasn't even tried to address and may not even be aware of. but that isn't your problem, its not your job to fix him or help him understand himself better. you have moved on and I am glad you have someone else in your life now but even if that doesn't work out and you end up single again, don't go back to him.

as Nanny Ogg says, you can't pass the same water twice.

soannya · 03/04/2020 05:14

You’re young. No baggage. Don’t be a rescuer. He’s approaching 50! Why would you! He’s done all of the exciting “firsts”. Don’t you want somebody your own age that you can do all of the “firsts” with. Somebody you can build memories with? His life is on its way to being over. He’s entering retirement stage surely! He’s got 3 kids already!!! You’d be nuts to take that on. Do you see yourself as a rescuer? Surely that’s going to be boring at some point. Find somebody who has their life in front of them and doesn’t need rescuing.

AnnaJou · 03/04/2020 08:23

Why did he split up with his ex?
Was it the same kind of reason as when he left his job?

What do you want for your life?
Do you want children?
Are you prepared to be a step parent (read the board on here)?
Do you want a relationship where you are a constant support to the other person?

He and ex wife split up amicably and mutually as their marriage had turned into a co-parenting flatmates arrangement. They still get along relatively well, besides her idea to move back to her own country with the children.

I am not sure what I want from life, I am not one of those people who are 100% sure they want children and marriage. However, what I am sure I want is the ability to make those decisions for myself, as opposed to being in a relationship where the options are taken away from me as a result of my partner's past.

Upon reflection, I know what I have to do. That relationship was never right, and could never be right.

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ProfessorPootle · 03/04/2020 09:00

It’s a big no from me, spend more time getting to know new bf and chalk ex up as a learning experience. He dragged you into his mid life crisis, he lovebombed then discarded you. It was always about him, his feelings, his needs, his mental health crisis. It was never a relationship. Ignore his email and continue with your recovery.

OhCaptain · 03/04/2020 09:06

Christ, no!

Delete and block any forms of communication so you’re not tempted by this prince among men...🙄🙄

midnightstar66 · 03/04/2020 09:14

While I think his reasons for ending it were justified and sound/sensible rather than dramatic and martyr like, your new guy sounds far better suited and you are happy. You've moved on so leave it there. I'm glad he's sorted things out, it sounded like a pretty bad time for him but it's not your responsibility to go back to help that further

Honeyroar · 03/04/2020 09:17

I could possibly forgive him the backing away because it was so close to him splitting up with his wife (it was indeed too early). However the leaving a job combined with his ex wife having found him his last job and the fact that he still hasn’t managed to get another job in six months would be a huge red flag to me. He’s going to be one of those dreamers that never actually sorts his life out.

LannieDuck · 03/04/2020 17:56

Any chance he gave up his job before finding a new one so that he could avoid paying maintenance? Was he paying anything to support his kids while you were with him?

Fmlgirl · 04/04/2020 00:12

You sound like you have a lot going for you. Don’t burden yourself with a man that has more baggage than Heathrow Terminal 5.