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What makes a good husband?

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TherealMrsBloom · 23/10/2017 17:55

What makes someone a good husband? I've been thinking about this a lot recently. It's just DH is so demanding of me yet I feel I get so little in return. I never used to think of a relationship in such calculating terms, but I know he does- see below. I've spent 6 years being a SAHM to let him concentrate on his career. I do all the cooking, most of the housework (we have a cleaner and he'll occasionally load or unload the dishwasher), all the washing, all the admin, pay all the bills (with his money). He'll do shopping if I give him short lists. He'll take the kids to do activities at the weekends and occasionally will help with school lifts. But whenever he does anything he makes a big deal of it, like I owe him one. Most weekends, once he has transported the kids to to their activity and back and walked the dog (if he feels like it), he'll sit around watching sport and taking naps. I get some time to myself too, but I still have to do all the cooking, washing, gardening etc. and put up with his "well, how shall I spend my brownie points then?", by which he means he wants sex. And frankly, sex is not at all good for me and after 14 years together I have given up hope it ever will be. If I'm honest to myself, I don't think he cares how good it is for me, so long as he gets it. He is not good with people - often rude and abrupt - sits in a different room watching TV when we visit my parents; he doesn't really have any friends but can charm people if he likes them and finds them interesting. I can't entertain because he offers so little help (and with 3DC, job and stuff around the house, I don't often have the energy) and we are rarely invited anywhere. He lies to me about little things eg. how much he spent on his car, what the kids have eaten, how much he has had to drink.

The upside of this marriage, I hear you ask? He earns very well as he has a very successful career, lets me decide (on the main) how we spend the money and I have full access to his account; he is occasionally nice to the kids, he makes me laugh sometimes, can be charming when he wants to be, is loyal (I think) and wouldn't cheat. He provides me with companionship when I've finished all the chores. But actually, I think even given these points, I feel he takes more from the marriage than he gives. I don't feel valued or cared for. I am increasingly resentful and I don't want to continue having unsatisfying sex. He responds by becoming cold, helping even less, trying to bargain with chores. I went to a counsellor who told me to go back to work. I'm now working full time (on a third of the salary I had pre-children), but nothing has changed: the last 2 weekends I've put up a list of 3 chores for him to do on a Sunday: each weekend he has done only 1 of the 3 - basically the underlying message is I like it or lump it.

What do I do? This is the tip of the iceberg - there are other things, like his inability to deal well with stress, drinking too much several nights of the week (he's not a nasty drunk though), shouting and swearing at the kids if they don't do as they're told first time. I asked him to see a counsellor - he's been 2 or 3 times but says he doesn't have time and there's nothing wrong with him. If I insist, he gets angry and tells me to stop nagging and says he's stressed enough without something extra to do. Am I being unreasonable to think he is not a good husband? I can't spend another 15 years like this! What do people think? Thanks for reading!

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IvorHughJars · 24/10/2017 19:34

He asked me why I was crying, gave me a hug and then started groping me. I asked him 3 times to stop and when he finally did he retreated to the other side of the bed without a further word. He hardly spoke a word to me this morning and left with the children without saying goodbye.

LTB. Seriously. This is not ok and you deserve so much more.

qumquat · 24/10/2017 19:50

He sounds absolutely awful OP. The way he is treating you is not ok in any way shape or form.

TitaniasCloset · 24/10/2017 20:02

Oh gosh he just sounds worse and worse. He is making you miserable OP I think you would be better off alone. Never mind my philosophical post from the other day.

Ijustlovefood · 24/10/2017 20:13

The question is do you think he loves you and do you love him?

mansviewpoint · 24/10/2017 20:25

Am sat here trying to suggest positive things, like, at least he's telling you the problem as he sees it, (okay it's a rant) but that's better than being completely silent. It appears that at the very very least he is mis-prioritising his career above the important things. You need at the very least to draw a line, inform him of that line, and stick to your guns.
Perhaps you tell him that he's got one chance, to go and get help with the stress, or to get a new job, or whatever you feel can change his attitude and therefore start to get things back to a better place. Even with that, I wouldn't expect any change in behaviour for at least a year.
It's all down to how much you and the kids can go through, another year another 2 years, for the sake of seeing if he can change his attitude.

Mimilondon39 · 24/10/2017 20:43

So sorry to hear that you are going through this. Can you ask him again to go to Relate counselling with you? I think you need a third person to unpick everything that is going on here. Good husbands are out there - kind, generous and loving - and we all deserve one. Big hugs xxx

hahahaIdontgetit · 24/10/2017 20:48

We have an equal relationship, both work full time (kids are almost adults), he probably does a bit more around the house than I do, I pay a bit more of the bills.

We enjoy each other company, he makes me laugh like no-one else, we have the same values and ideals and we enjoy the same hobbies.

Vomit inducing, I know, but I live with my best friend.

Rach000 · 24/10/2017 22:21

He sounds awful, he is expecting too much of you. He should be trying to talk to you if he is struggling now you are working full time rather than just shouting and blaming you.
I think you need to leave him. He thinks the kids are just your responsibility not his!! And if he only helps as he thinks he will get brownie point for sex then that's disgusting. I wouldn't have sex with my husband because he helped round the house or with the kids I would tell him to f off and grow up.

JungleExplorer · 25/10/2017 08:31

This is so sad.

I have been a SAHM for over 12 years, we have two sons 14 and 11 and Dh openly admits he is happy for me to stay home because I obviously do the vast share of everything house.

He is home every night to eat dinner with us, the boys quit whatever they are doing to meet him at the door because he is so loved. We have family time together after dinner (watching tv/playing board games/musical instruments.)

Dh helps with homework, is fully plugged in to all things family. We laugh every single day together. He brings me a cup of tea every weekday morning in bed. The children bring both of us drinks in bed at the weekend and unpack the dishwasher. The boys also help cook, clean, tidy. They probably do more than your Dh. And sex is great. I feel loved, and cherished.

On the flip side, Dh struggles to make decisions so we talk stuff through an no decision is made Grin so I ultimately make it. This impacts everything, so it took us 4 months to choose sofas. We have renovated two houses, it was like pulling teeth decisions wise.

I'm saying he isn't perfect (neither am I) but we have been married for 18 years and I make his life easy by doing all housework, Dh makes my life easy by working and earning the money.

A good husband is someone who realises the value of you. In your case he doesn't. He sees it all as your responsibility - house and children, and that won't change with you working.

expatinscotland · 26/10/2017 08:55

He wants a domestic appliance that goes all the lifework and who also works outside the home FT and lives to glorify his cock on demand. When he is forced to engage in any form of parenting his own kids or lifework, he throws his teddy out his pram and blames you for every ill in his life. He's rude to people, treats his kids like shit, treats you like shit. He's a problem drinker. He truly thinks the world revolves round him. 'How shall I spend my brownie points?' Ugggh.
He sounds like a narcissistic cunt.

I'm glad you work, because if I were you, I'd make an appointment with a solicitor (or several till you find one you want) and start divorce proceedings. And then tell him we're divorcing.

TherealMrsBloom · 27/10/2017 14:25

Thanks expat and all who have responded. I am getting my ducks in a row but had hoped he wouldn’t be so unpleasant and I just don’t know how I will get through the next few months unless I play ball with him, which fills me with dread. I am reading “Wife work” as suggested by IvorHughJars which is depressing but rings so true. It is horrifying how I feel I have been somehow conditioned into doing “wifely” tasks without realising (at least consciously) what a raw deal I am getting. 😕

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expatinscotland · 27/10/2017 16:24

'and I just don’t know how I will get through the next few months unless I play ball with him, which fills me with dread. '

Don't! Make him see how hard it is to get through the next few months without his every whim being honoured. I'd start with stopping any lifework for him. He asks why you just answer, over and over, 'Because you're rude to me.' Turn his own rude behaviour back on him. He's childish, so play 'I know you are but what am I . . . infinity' with him.

expatinscotland · 27/10/2017 16:25

See a solicitor. Last week! First point of call, so you can see more than one if the first or second don't work for you. You don't have to tell him. None of his business. Get your own bank account.

WingsofNylon · 27/10/2017 20:44

To answer your question I would define a spouse to be good if they make your world a better one by being in it. That's what it boils down to.

My husband's existence in my life makes it better. Equally, I make his life better.

A wise women once said to me, if you have to wonde, then it isn't good.

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