Psychics and mediums

[Charliepeace83]

I've had some weird premonitions before or psychic experiences. Has anyone had a reading which came to something? have you ever had a reading which was helpful and helped your relationship? or they could give you time frames or who the 'one' is? Really interested in what ppl think!

[hellsbellsmelons]

I love her!!! She's fab' and mad as a bucket of frogs.

[HappyJanuary]

I think the Forer Test is fascinating. He asked people to do a personality test and binned their results before giving them all the same evaluation. It has been replicated hundreds of times. Over and over again an average of about 90% of subjects are shocked at the insightful and accurate assessment of their character and hidden selves without realising that the various statements apply to just about anyone. It really just comes down to wanting to believe.

[BertrandRussell]

"love her!!! She's fab' and mad as a bucket of frogs."

And lies to grieving people for a living.

[ssd]

it does come down to wanting to believe and I dont think theres anything wrong with that

when I went to a psychic night I got told a lot of accurate details that I still can't figure out how she knew, I don't do social media and I hadn't even bought a ticket to the event, I paid at the end as we were late..I dont know how she knew my mums name, how she died, and a certain event that had happened in my house a year after mum died and I don't mean an argument or losing something, which happens in every house... I don't get it at all, but it comforted me and that's all that matters to me.

[PastoralCare]

I predict it's going to rain and it will be windy and it will be 14c.

And someone, somewhere in England will be 5 minutes late to their appointment.

Sooner or later I will be right.

[HappyJanuary]

It's just a game of hits and misses, and clever psychics can even turn the misses into hits.

You do hear people say it doesn't matter as long as people are comforted but there is something fundamentally disgusting about accepting payment from desperate people, about preying on their vulnerability, about making your living from knowingly feeding lies to the mark.

Bereaved people would be better ploughing money into counselling I think, where the person saying 'he'd have been proud of you' or 'she knew you loved her despite the arguments' is more honest.

[hellsbellsmelons]

Bert but she knows some stuff!
And I think she gives a lot of people peace and closure.

[Charliepeace83]

I didn't realize this would be such a heated debate! I was just wondering if people had been to see a psychic and the psychic had been accurate about unfolding events? It seems lots of ppl haven't actually been to a psychic but convinced it is all crap, which is absolutely fine.

Kalphat - I wasn't saying I fully believe in everything metaphysical but having had very accurate premonitions it seems I would be able to 'read' people....but obviously can't....so I am confused!

I suppose my other question is ....have people had premonitions? I cannot explain why/how I get them but they are premonitions in great detail. Id like to know others experiences' as I can't explain them...and there is nothing particularly good on the internet to help explain premonitions and psychics (as there is usually a bias).

[HappyJanuary]

Ssd - it's impressive if the psychic looked directly at you and said 'your mum is called Angharad and sadly passed from ichthyosis'.

Generally they say 'I see an elderly lady who's name begins with E' and watch body language for recognition. Illnesses are usually 'something to do with the abdomen'.

For every person who leaves with an accurate hit, there are dozens who didn't.

I think they can be dangerous too. 'Marry the man who's name begins with M' might make someone more trusting of Mark when she meets him in a bar. And predictions are a safe bet because no one realises they're wrong until years have passed.

[BertrandRussell]

"Bert but she knows some stuff!"

She know what people tell her. Then she tells them. That's how it works.

PastoralCare - where could I find a dice in my house?

[Ariandenotgrande]

Charlie, I think people dislike seeing vulnerable folk being financially abused. Its not a matter of being a believer or non believer - I am afraid science has proven it's all false.
People believe someone when they are low and need to believe, the need outweighs common sense /reality.
I have had a dear friend spend vast amounts of money on mediums when her mother died and it was awful to watch. I couldn't help her to stop, bloody awful. Like a crack addict to psychic shite.

[ssd]

happy, thats what happened, she told me my mums name and explained how she died and also said what happened after she died.

[ssd]

happy, I also had bereavement counselling and it was great to let me get my grief out but it didn't comfort me in the way the psychic did. I just felt completely that my mum was there for the time the psychic spoke to me, maybe 5 or 10 mins, I don't know how long it was. But I felt loved again, by my mum. The psychic told me mum was saying that she knew something had happened with the postman twice and that it wouldn't happen again as that postman had gone, it wasn't our regular postman.she said mum was saying to the psychic "the postman always rings twice", meaning something had happened twice...anyway, about 2 years after mum died ds passed his exams and SIL and BIL each sent him a well done card with money in it and both times that their cards came through the door the envelope was ripped open and the money stolen. This has never happened before and like I said I don't do fb or anything online and only myself and dh knew what had happened. I didn't even report it to the post office as I wasn't sure what to do and was just gutted for ds. Anyway after speaking to the psychic I went to the post office and was collecting a parcel and I mentioned what had happened with the cards being ripped open and money stolen on 2 occasions and the post office guy said that there had been a temporary postman working in my area at that time and he'd then been moved somewhere else.

I mean how on earth would my mum tell the psychic that, it happened after she'd died and I had never met the psychic.

as I said, it brought me comfort as I just felt that my mum hadn't gone completely.

[HappyJanuary]

Ssd - i don't know what to say because I feel like a shit tarnishing the comfort you got from the experience.

It's impressive that the medium got your mum's specific name and illness without trawling the room.

But the postman thing is part of the show - a non specific thing that gives the illusion of specificity. I've even heard that exact same thing from a spiritualist.

In some ways it doesn't matter. You got what you needed even if it wasn't genuine, and she got paid.

[Klaphat]

I wasn't saying I fully believe in everything metaphysical but having had very accurate premonitions it seems I would be able to 'read' people....but obviously can't....so I am confused!

'Reading' people is a skill based on observation and a grasp of probability. It has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of psychic ability/premonitions.

For someone to have read several posts clearly using the word 'reading' in the non-supernatural, psychology-based sense, and still write that post - well, I can only assume your cognitive bias is turned up to the max on this topic for you to have missed what people have been saying.

[Klaphat]

Is this thread actually just a shitty attempt at advertising your services?

[cauliflowercheese14]

It's called coincidence and life is full of them as we desperately look for patterns in things. I might think a thousand random thoughts today, but if one of them relates to something that happens tomorrow I will think 'how strange' when actually it's not strange at all.

I hate people falling for this bollocks, I don't think they should be able to advertise either as it's blatant lies.

[HappyJanuary]

I think in America they have to include 'for entertainment purposes only' in the (very) small print. I wish there was more recognition that it was purely 'for fun' so that people could visit with mates for a laugh if they so wished but weren't sucked in.

[BertrandRussell]

Yes- it's amazing how often "it couldn't possibly be a coincidence" turns up in accounts of psychic readings.

Coincidences happen all the time.

[Mulberry72]

I went to see a spiritualist (her description) 4 months after DM died.

I'm absolutely prepared to be flamed, but she was amazing.

She told me very specific things that only DM & I would have known, very specific things that happened in hospital and at the chapel of rest. She knew that I was adopted, just a lot of things that she couldn't of guessed.

I went to see her a year later, she knew that I had something of DM's in my pocket, and again very specific things about our family.

I believe she's genuine, it's each to their own what they believe in.

[ShatnersBassoon]

If anyone knew that they possessed supernatural/magical abilities to see the future or communicate with the dead, they wouldn't be pissing around doing 'readings' for a few bob. They'd be getting themselves assessed, scientifically, and trying to understand how on earth this ability works and trying to put it to genuinely valuable use as a gift to the world.

But they don't, because they're con artists. They're just good at extracting cash from vulnerable people.

[Nomoreworkathome]

I will stand by my experience and no, I wasn't 'vulnerable'

[Amperoblue]

I went to a tarot reader for a very serious non relationship issue and her predictions were correct.

I went back to her after a year for a general reading. She predicted I'd meet someone which seemed unlikely in my then circumstances. Not only did she give me a specific time frame ( 2 weeks) she described how I'd meet him and what he would look like including eye colour and facial hair ( not my type basically). That's not cold reading.
Amazing it did happen as she said.

I have it all written down by her too so it's not my selective memory.

[Toffeelatteplease]

I've done some scarily accurate readings. For free.

First time I picked up a deck of cards I was messing around with a vague aquaintence. Basically described in detail events that had happened a few days before. I thought I was talking shit, she only told me later.

Predicted my marriage would be shocking (it was),predicted divorce and money difficulties, predicted current relationship and at the time unforseen difficulties. Predicted repeatedly that I wouldn't have any more children even though at the time I thought more was what I wanted, it just wouldn't come out the other way. Other stuff along the way.

Don't touch them. Knowing the shit stuff ahead of time is rubbish. You don't believe it and walk straight into it anyway.

[Toffeelatteplease]

They'd be getting themselves assessed, scientifically, and trying to understand how on earth this ability works and trying to put it to genuinely valuable use as a gift to the world
Bollocks to that. Who wants to be Cassandra of Troy.