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Don't know what to make of this

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Hagothehills · 22/09/2016 10:43

Sorry, it's long


Been with dp nearly ten years and have almost 3yo DS together. I was training to be a chef when I fell pregnant, he wasn't planned but is loved very much now he's here.

My original plan was to get a job as a chef after I finished my diploma, work for a while and then we would think about babies. As it happens, the baby appeared before the job.

DS is in nursery two afternoons a week and I originally thought that I would go back to work when he started there, thinking I would start in the afternoon and work until late evening, not unusual for chefs, but dp was very negative about this and it never happened.

Now DS is starting preschool in a few weeks, he normally wouldn't until January as that's when he's eligible for the 3 year funding but it's an academy and they take them as soon as they turn 3. It's five mornings a week. I really want to go back to work, only part time so I don't miss out on DS too much, with him at preschool in the morning and wrap around care for when it finishes. So I could work two or three days a week.

Now dp seems dead set against this too. He won't even entertain the idea of a childminder, says it won't be worth the money, if I want to work 'go and do nights in asda'.

I don't want to work in asda. I'm not a shelf stacker, I want to use my bloody diploma and do something I actually really love (I decided to train after working in a busy kitchen and it was the best job i ever had, I actively looked forward to going to work. I've worked in retail and hated it with a passion).

My mum has offered to look after him after preschool two days a week and I haven't spoken to mil yet but I'm 100% certain that if she can mind him she would be delighted too. They both work full time so have to work around that but both dote on ds. I don't mind working two days and an evening, three days, two long days, whatever to make child care doable. But dp is adamant that it won't be doable.

It feels like all he wants me to do is stay at home with the kid and clean the house. Both of my parents worked full time when I was little and still do now so I know it is doable.

Just had quite a nasty argument with dp about this over the phone. He's in work atm. He keeps calling now but I'm not answering because I don't want to be snarled at and sworn at which is what he did when I told him I was looking at childminders. He said 'stop looking at childminders and get the fucking house clean'.

The house is a bit of a state atm because he's just done three nights and I didn't want to disturb his sleep clattering about cleaning in the day and by the time DS was in bed there was really only time for the very basics. I was going to have a good blast of it today while DS is in nursery and I can power through it with no distractions.

Sorry this is a bit rambly! I'm just feeling a bit shaken atm :(

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RandomMess · 22/09/2016 13:52

You are not married so have zero financial protection if you split.

Of course it's worth working - he will have to pay for your DS childcare if he isn't prepared to do it himself. After all you look after DS all the rest of the time he is working for free!

If you live in a mortgaged home I hope your name is on the deeds...

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SnipSnipMrBurgess · 22/09/2016 14:00

Your working on him? Why is it your job to change the person he is?

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BolshierAryaStark · 22/09/2016 14:01

'Get the fucking house clean' wtaf? Hmm
Does this twat have any redeeming features?

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adora1 · 22/09/2016 14:04

Bloody hell, you are working on someone who has zero respect for you, I'd ditch him and go live a life of happiness, he sounds bloody awful, you can make your own decisions no?

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 22/09/2016 14:12

You told us he said stop looking at childminders and get the fucking house clean then spent the next paragraph justifying why your house isn't spotless, promising that you will clean it today. I was shocked. Fuck that shit. Next paragraph should have been a full on rant about how fucking dare he speak to me like that and a bigger rant about how there's no fucking way you are cleaning a thing after that and he can fuck right off with crushing your career so you have to to spend more time washing his pants.

Get a job. Get a career. The one you love and are qualified for. Don't even talk to him about it. Announce it when it is done. Get saving too. You'll need a get the hell out of Dodge fund soon.

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Hagothehills · 22/09/2016 15:22

My mum can help as she's a nurse so works slightly odd hours with shifts. She's even offered to switch to long days (12 instead of 8 hour shifts) so she has an extra day off work so she can look after DS. Like I said I don't know about the other Nana as her hours are a bit more typical 9-5 (manages a bakery).

The house is his, my name isn't on the deeds but it goes to me if he dies. I've never paid any of the mortgage so he won't put me on the deeds.

He proposed a couple of years ago and got me a ring but we never married. I don't wear my ring now as I don't see us getting married any time soon.

He does have redeeming features, he just doesn't know how to have a different opinion without being rude. One of his colleagues in work told him he had an attitude problem so I don't think it's just me he is disrespectful to.

Work in a school kitchen/nursing home/ little cafe or something like that would be perfect for now. Ok it's not exactly fine dining but I am willing to wait until DS is a good bit older before I look at the sorts of hours that hotels/swanky restaurants require. I would just rather be frying sausages than stacking shelves. (In fact it was working in a greasy spoon cafe that made me want to train properly)

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SnipSnipMrBurgess · 22/09/2016 15:51

He has redeeming features?

OK, name 10 great things,big or small about him.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/09/2016 15:54

Hagothehills

re your comment:-

"The house is his, my name isn't on the deeds but it goes to me if he dies. I've never paid any of the mortgage so he won't put me on the deeds.

He proposed a couple of years ago and got me a ring but we never married. I don't wear my ring now as I don't see us getting married any time soon.

He does have redeeming features, he just doesn't know how to have a different opinion without being rude. One of his colleagues in work told him he had an attitude problem so I don't think it's just me he is disrespectful to".

These are all very concerning points and indicate wider problems generally.

Re your first paragraph are you really 100% certain that the house would be left to you if he dies suddenly?. Has a will been made by him specifying this wish because if not it could well be left to his next of kin i.e. his own parents. It also seems that you are not on the mortgage either; you do realise that if you did separate he is well within his rights to ask you to leave.

Would you want to marry such a man anyway given his overall attitude?. He is and has never been your project either to rescue and or save.

What redeeming features does he have towards you (without using anything like "he's a good dad" comment). And no he is not a good dad to his child if he can and does treat his mother with such unbridled contempt.

Why are you with someone like this, he is simply now trying to further drag you down with him. What do you get out of this relationship?.

What do you feel about this now you have written it down OP?.

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Hagothehills · 22/09/2016 16:00

He's funny, he's handsome, he works very hard, he's great with DS, he does lots of little things to make my life easier like making pots of coffee even though it's only me that drinks it, if I ever need anything I get it without question, we have loads in common and have some great conversations, he encourages me to question things (in a positive way), he has supported me when my family cut me off (v long story), he regularly surprises me with days out/ random takeaways (would be meals out but we're both uneasy leaving DS at night). I could go on. But on the flip side, he does have this disrespectful undercurrent sometimes that makes me question him.

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ageingrunner · 22/09/2016 16:01

Has he got a massive golden cock or what? If not, LTB Smile

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/09/2016 16:11

"He's funny, he's handsome, he works very hard, he's great with DS, he does lots of little things to make my life easier like making pots of coffee even though it's only me that drinks it, if I ever need anything I get it without question, we have loads in common and have some great conversations, he encourages me to question things (in a positive way), he has supported me when my family cut me off (v long story), he regularly surprises me with days out/ random takeaways (would be meals out but we're both uneasy leaving DS at night). I could go on. But on the flip side, he does have this disrespectful undercurrent sometimes that makes me question him".

This is really the barest of bare minimums in terms of what to expect in a relationship. Anyone could make you a coffee (even I could and I do not drink the stuff either) and buy you a take out. The far more important stuff like what he thinks of you and how he treats you as a person is being overlooked for all the above which is really fluff. And no he is not good to your DS if he treats you as his mother so very poorly. Would you want your son as an adult to treat his lady love like you are, I would hope not but you are showing him that currently at least this is acceptable to you.

The bad side of him actually outweighs the good; he sees you really as an unpaid, unmarried housekeeper. His contempt for you shines through really in what you write about him.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/09/2016 16:11

And you work bloody hard as well although he clearly thinks that you do not.

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YNK · 22/09/2016 16:23

What a nasty bit of work and he's got you right where he wants you!

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SnipSnipMrBurgess · 22/09/2016 17:23

Sorry OP, but what you have described is the bare minimum really. He is SUPPOSED to be good with his child. He shouldnt get brownie points for that, its a given.

Coffee and takeaways does not give him a free pass to treat you like dog shit.

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adora1 · 22/09/2016 17:53

Jesus, you are grateful for whatever he throws your way, until you actually realise that is abusive and disrespectful towards you nothing will change and you will always be in his shadow like a little frightened mouse.

He treats you like crap and is verbally abusive, do you really want to model this crap relationship to your children and pretend it's all good when it clearly is not.

I guarantee he does NOT speak to his work colleagues in the same way that he bullies you.

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TwigletsMakeMeViolent · 22/09/2016 17:58

'stop looking at childminders and get the fucking house clean'.

Jesus, would you speak to anyone like that? Let alone someone you're supposed to love?

What a fuckwit.

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BolshierAryaStark · 22/09/2016 18:04

Completely agree that the things you listed should be expected as the bare minimum.
Please have a cold look at the relationship & see what a disadvantage he has you at-no income & no name on the house=fucked if it goes tits up.
Get the career you want & trained for, you do not need his permission.

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LellyMcKelly · 22/09/2016 18:39

Get back to your work as a chef, one way or another. Do not rely on this man for money. There may come a day when you want to leave. A job gives you independence.

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Hagothehills · 22/09/2016 18:53

Well he's been in a crap mood all day. Came home from picking DS up from nursery and he didn't even acknowledge me when we came in, never mind a cuppa not even a hello. So I said hello to him repeatedly until he replied (very curtly).

He's been short all evening, I went upstairs to collect some glasses and he said to me 'get pyjamas' I said 'please. Get pyjamas please. A bit of respect would be nice' and 'don't speak to me like something you found under your shoe'
He said well stop acting like it then (meaning he thinks I'm taking the piss because the house is a mess)

He's watching cartoons on the iPad with DS before he goes to bed and says 'what are you going to do down here, I want an answer so I know what to expect' I said I'd brush the floors. He then gave me a list of jobs to do. I must have given him the evil eye because he said give me that look again and it will be the last look you give. I said are you threatening me now? He said no I'm telling you I work too hard to support this family for you to act like a lazy bastard.

Then he said I should do the cartoons because he's not in the mood and he would do the cleaning. I said no go and see your child (who was upstairs on our bed alone at this point, waiting for his dad to give him cuddles before bed). There was a bit of tooing and froing and he's upstairs now. I'm doing a few bits while he settles DS because I don't want a blazing row, he throws things when he gets really angry and I don't want to wake DS.


Oh god, reading this back he sounds awful Sad

There are times when he's so sweet and caring though Sad

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ElspethFlashman · 22/09/2016 19:02

No, he's a prick.

Who doesn't even like you, let alone love you.

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Pringlesandwine · 22/09/2016 19:14

My ex used to talk to me like that. 'Clean this fukicking shirt hole', 'what the fuck have you been doing all day'. We both worked but I had one day off during the week and he insisted I should spend that day cleaning. Not spending time with my child. And no matter what i did, he'd fund fault. If I cleaned the kitchen and bathrooms, he'd point out the dirty windows. Do the windows, he'd complain about the dusting. You will never match up to his standards and he will raise what he expects of you if you return to work and you'll never hear the end of it.
My ex could also be charming, make me coffee, buy me things. He thought by doing these things I wouldn't realise I was in a shit relationship.
I did though and I left.

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lemonzest123 · 22/09/2016 19:23

Thats shocking OP, I'm sorry but he sounds controlling and scary.

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user1472515172 · 22/09/2016 19:28

He threatened to kill you. You really, really need to leave.

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Doublemint · 22/09/2016 19:31

He sounds awful. The stuff you're describing as his redeeming qualities is basic relationship stuff tbh.

The horrendous comments the last look you give and also get the fucking house clean are disrespectful and threatening. It sounds like he like to leave "or else..." Hanging in the air.

I'd get a job, tell him it pays less than it does and start saving money to LTB.

Also you should go halves on childcare and he should do a proportion of the house work when you are back to work.

Don't let him treat you like this! What a horrible example for your son "make them laugh, make them a coffee and you can speak to them like shit, deny them any choices about their lives AND (Brucie Bonus) get your house cleaned! Winner!

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