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Can I be happy and depressed at the same time?

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 15:11

My DS is 4 months old now, and I love him to bits. He is such a lovely, happy baby.
But although I feel so happy with him and about him, I feel really low about everything else.
My DH keeps shouting at me because the house isn't as clean as he would like it. The truth is, he is more obsessive about it than me but I do try.
I just do not know where the time goes? I wake up and try to plan my day, but it all goes out the window... you just never know when DS will have a good / bad day, and looking after him is time consuming, I am sure you all know what I mean.
I have put on a lot of weight since being pregnant, and cant seem to motivate myself to lose it. DH also throws this in my face when we fight, and it just makes me feel worse! I feel like I am in a downward spiral. DH is a bit of a Jekyll and Kyde character... when he is happy he is the kindest, funniest, most generous person I know, but when he is stressed or unhappy he can be so mean. I feel like a bit of an idiot for thinking things would change after DS was born.
I feel like I need to motivate myself to become superwoman! Need to excercise, diet, clean, and raise a baby, and work. I have started part time work too, in amongst all this.
I can't speak to any friends in RL as I feel too embarrased to.
I guess it is too much to expect to have a happy, balanced life! I amused to earning my own money (was self-employed) but now that I have none it freaks me out... I am constantly worried about it, but always put on a brave face. DH seems to think that I dont care about it, but I just dont know what my dwelling on it and talking about it will do to help the situation? I thought doing the freelance work would help, but it has put so much pressure on me, I feel like it is unfair on DS - I cant expect him to sit and play quietly while I work! Babies are just NOT like that!
Anyway...last night DH came home in a fowl mood and proceeded to bollock me for the state of the house (that day I had done washing, the dishes, cleaned the kitchen etc as well as started work on a new freelance job, so I felt he was being a bit unfair).. well he shouted a bit, said he didn't want to see his DS because he was angry, and then left and didn't come back till the morning (went and stayed in his office which is around the corner I think) and proceeded to ignore us. I dont care about him ignoring me, but ignoring the baby is pretty shameful I think.
Well he is now telling me he is going to sleep elsewhere from now on but I cant live like this!
Aaargh!

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theUrbanDryad · 23/11/2006 15:27

ok - here's a plan:

  1. tell DH if he wants the house to be cleaner, then to do it himself.
  2. explain to your DH that looking after a 4 month old is time consuming and difficult (i'm assuming this is your first) and feeding etc takes time.
  3. make a list of all the things you don't like about him, physically, throw them in his face the next time you have an argument, see how he likes it.
  4. next time he ignores the baby, pick him up, put him in dh's lap and go and do the washing up or something.

    it sounds like you might have a touch of pnd? have you got a history of depression? it might be worth mentioning some of this to your HV...

    {{{hugs}}}
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littlemisspiggy · 23/11/2006 16:18

Your husband is being a selfish prat. Can you tell him you will go somewhere with the baby (parents) and he can do the work himself.
[HUGS]

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 16:30

thanks for the replies..
no history of depression
I think DH is bringing me down, more than the hormones etc, maybe I just dont want to admit to myself I could have pnd.

my family lives overseas - dh has just suggested I move back there and says he'll miss DS. Maybe I should go. Problem is I have so much debt here, would have to sell the flat first to pay it off...
but it is do-able

Maybe a fresh start would be good for me?

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oxocube · 23/11/2006 16:31

To be honest, I don't think you sound depressed (not that I am any expert!). You sound like a nice normal person who has just had a baby, who is tired and needs a bit of love and support, and who is trying really hard to make it work. Women do put on weight after having a baby - its a fact. Your husband sounds like the one who needs a reality check TBH. We all know that guys find it hard to adjust after a new baby but this is taking things to extremes. Lots of hugs to you, HappyandUnhappy 'cause I think you deserve them

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oxocube · 23/11/2006 16:33

How were things between you before you had your baby? Is your husband's behaviour a shock to you or were there existing problems before your pregnancy?

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Tortington · 23/11/2006 16:35

tell your dh to fuck off and die.

looking after a child and housework - although mutually convenient sometimes - and certainly easily commutable and cheap with regards to employment - they are not the same thing

looking after kid........... ........housework

not same thing - your dh is a stupid fucker - tell him " oi you stupid fucker - fuck off knob head. - i amnot your verbal punch bag - i am your WIFE DAMN IT"

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oxocube · 23/11/2006 16:40

Maybe off-topic, and am absolutely not belittling depression in any way, but why is PND ALWAYS suggested after a woman has had a baby and there are relationship problems? When in cases like this, as Custardo put so forcefully, the man is a pig

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 16:40

lol, custardo, would love to say that!

Oxo, no big shock TBH, always a fiesty relationship.. but now it is not just me I have to look out for

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oxocube · 23/11/2006 16:47

Then you might have to remember that love, and call it a day if he doesn't change (and in my experience of marriage, you can't really change people). Your child is obviously, and quite rightly your priority now.

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fridascruffs · 23/11/2006 16:48

Leave him. He's a wanker. I am angry on your behalf!

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oxocube · 23/11/2006 16:55

Can I just add that lots of people suggest leaving the baby with said partner in such situations and letting them get on with it, to see how hard it really is. I would never in a million years have left any of my 3 kids with their dad when they were little and he was cross/impatient with them and their noise, mess etc. I would sometimes throw all of them into the car and drive off somewhere to get some breathing space but I couldn't leave them if I thought they would be shouted at or worse. Sometimes these things are not as simple as they sound.

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 17:04

Oxo, glad you understand...
He often has said that he would love me to work full time and him to stay at home and look after the baby.... but he is so impatient, and I can see him get annoyed when the baby cries... and he is never alone with him for a full day like me. If DS has a bad day even I feel frazzled at the end of it, but I know DH would have lost it by then, and it isn't fair on DS.

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Sobernow · 23/11/2006 17:19

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frenchconnection · 23/11/2006 17:20

oxo cube,(hijack) just to say - its not a fact all women put on weight after having a baby, i was a skinny size 8 straight after both of mine and so were 2 of my friends! was thinner after having babies than before!

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 17:22

thanks for that frenchconnection!!!

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boboggglimpopo · 23/11/2006 17:22

You could always show him this thread.......

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oxocube · 23/11/2006 17:31

Well yes Frenchconnection, there are always exceptions. I am lighter now than before I had my kids (although sadly much more saggy!) but it doesn't often work like that esp after 4 months. I don't think any man has the right to throw the 'you're too fat' card at a woman who has just gone through enormous body changes. Quite apart from the damage to a woman's self-esteem, its just bloody unkind and unthinking. Thin does not automatically equal attractive or desirable

Does he have any redeeming features, HappyandUnhappy?

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swifter · 23/11/2006 17:37

poor you- he sounds dreadful but not unusual...
you on the other hand sound lovely. tell him to f off and if he wants a tidy house then to do it himself. that should shut him up

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3sEnough · 23/11/2006 18:02

Your dh sounds really, really spooked by the whole baby/ baby affected wife/ new dad scenario - as was mine and me too I might add. May I suggest that get a babysitter in (unless you're still evening bf in which case go out for a stint in between feeds) and have a night out together - relax, talk through your new life without mentioning his attitude to it for the first hour at least - he may just open up and you may get to the bottom of what is really bothering him - quite frankly, if he's that bothered by the housework he can help or help you by getting a cleaner in. I WOULD also leave him with your ds for 1 day (barring bf issues) - he can't do much harm for that amount of time (if you're worried) but he can get a really big dose of reality and lots of understanding. He sounds like he needs it!
I had some probs with my dh at the beginning - not just him though - I was terrible too as it was all such a shock - but we worked at it and we now have 3 lovely children and he's the best, and most understanding daddy that I could ever hope for..I suspect that the early problems helped in the long run. Good luckxx

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 18:05

He actually does do it himself most times...
but I will be looking after the baby whilst he does....

redeeming features? hmmmm.... well as I said earlier - he is like Jekyll and Hyde... so when he's nice he is very nice, and when he is a shit, he is a shit of the highest order....

He has just sent me an e-mail telling me I am being too emotional about this, and I should leave the UK!!
Oh, you want to leave me and my child, but I am being too emotional about it!?!?!? WTF!!!!!!!

sigh, this is exhausting. And DS has been a handful today, I swear babies can pick up when you are unhappy?

DH works ALL THE TIME (very motivated) , and has been workign weekends too, which I am sure is very tiring and stressful for him, but for me too... I always used to look forward to weekends cos there was an extra pair of hands, which made me - and DS - more relaxed. Oh well, spose I should get used to not having that then. eh?

Sorry, waffling now...

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HappyAndUnhappy · 23/11/2006 18:07

nice idea, 3, but he is too busy and I doubt would want to do that
but thanks for the positive post

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Sobernow · 23/11/2006 18:09

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3sEnough · 23/11/2006 18:10

Awww - (hugs) At least if you give it a go you can tell yourself that you've really tried - it helps when I'm feeling frustrated and sad. He can only say no... xx

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swifter · 23/11/2006 18:16

why does he want you to leave the country?

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snig · 23/11/2006 18:20

How can you think clearly when you are exhausted, new baby, working, housework. Makes me feel tired just thinking about my boy at that age. is it poss for you to take DS and go for a holiday visiting parents, get some space from DH and work out next move. You sound like a wonderful person and quite frankly he sounds like a cock.

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