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thatsnotmynamereally · 25/11/2013 06:23

Sorry in advance as this feels long to me. I've posted often about my emotionally abusive H over the past year and now with benefit of all the help I've had here and from reading books and speaking to women's aid I feel I can more clearly see what he is doing his tactics and what has been going on through our whole marriage/relationship of 25 years.

He has constantly belittled me because I haven't worked (full time, have done bits of freelance) over the past few although I have been drawing a salary from his firm, for tax purposes that stopped at the end of September. I have no self confidence and although I have good skills in my field it has been really hard for me to start properly job hunting and he has been no help whatsoever for example he picked up a copy of my CV when I'd sat down to proofread it, said it was sh*te and crumpled it up. But I managed to get a contract job, it literally landed in my lap and it is a lovely project. I started exactly a week ago. It's not the most impressive job in terms of prestige or money but it is a good way back into the loop as far as I'm concerned... and one week in I'm loving it, really enjoy everything about being at work full time again.

True to type (I had been wondering how he would respond) he seems to be subtly making problems. He has just been generally in a bad mood and I've been tiptoeing around, at the moment I'm still getting used to getting back into the routine of getting up and going to work. When I worked full time, as I did the whole time our kids were growing up (I stopped when DS was in last year of A levels, he's now 3rd year uni and DD is in first year so we have an empty nest, kids are both doing well and I'm v proud of them) his rule was that my job could never interfere with his life, I have always had to do all the cooking/childcare/clothes etc. But because he earned more money than me that was deemed fair... but of course looking back I always put myself in the position of second to him, and probably reinforced his view that he was entitled to special treatment.

Anyway to get to the point. This weekend, my first after working, he wanted to our weekend house in the countryside-- his pet project and something he has used to extremely control us (mainly me + DD over the summer, DS early on started refusing to go). I was a bit muddled up as to what I wanted to do, in my mind, I thought I should put my foot down and say NO as I could stay here plus get laundry done, do some cooking for the week, and play around with the project I have on the computer (he does NOT want me working at home even briefly as I won't get paid for it, but I would like to brush up my computer skills a bit and do some extra work on the project) but for various reasons I agreed to go. Although we had a nice time Saturday as we met up with friends, he was niggling away all day today (Sunday). For example I lightheartedly asked what the agenda was for the day, as I was making the coffee and just wanted to know what he had in mind for the day, ie work in the garden or go for a walk, and he exploded at me for using the word 'agenda' as it sounded like a work-word... he was doing his own thing on the computer and said he just wanted to be left alone so I didn't bring him a cup of coffee, which further infuriated him, etc etc and the day sort of went downhill. But we went by to see DS as we had to deliver something to him so there was some point to the day so to speak.

We got back around 6:00 tonight, I put a load of laundry in, and cooked dinner, he sat on the sofa and worked on HIS project. I transferred laundry to tumble drier eventually, after dinner I folded clothes, set up ironing board and ironed 2 pairs of trousers for him, left shirts on the back of a chair, left ironing board up as I was going to do a quick job on the shirts. NB these were ALL his clothes. We had a couple of glasses of wine, he wasn't too happy with the fact that I hadn't planned a 'pudding' for him (this was after minor niggles with the dinner) then he didn't want to watch Family Guy (my guilty pleasure and I hate to miss it) so I went upstairs to watch it on the TV in the bedroom. Was this unreasonable??

I think I dozed off, he came upstairs an hour or so later shouting at me that the house was a mess and that I was wearing a jumper he doesn't like, a comfy one I wear around the house. I think he was insinuating that I wasn't dressed for sex. So I got furious but didn't shout (this is fairly usual) and came downstairs to sleep on the sofa. I got down here and found he'd folded up the ironing board roughly and left it on the table (weird place). He's always hated it when I left the ironing board up but in this case as I was trying to 'catch up' with laundry after going away for the weekend on his insistence I thought he should give me a bit of slack. Then I found some things on the floor, papers etc, that he must have just slung down there. Plus I found my muddy boots on top of my laptop. FFS I had even cleaned the kitchen before I went upstairs, all counters were cleared, it wasn't all that bad. As usual he was just finding fault with things-- I cannot argue, yes the ironing board was up and yes there was a tiny bit of clutter and yes my boots were left in the middle of the floor. But he just doesn't help. Shouldn't he be really supporting me, in a new job, plus I've not bothered him for anything over the past week? I even take the train so he can have the car, and I have come in and made dinner every night plus of course do all the cleaning, evidently not to his standards but that is ridiculous because he is really messy himself and never even picks up his clothes off the floor. But if his clothes are on the floor it is my fault because I haven't picked them up.

So, with my enhanced knowledge of how abusers work, I know this is what he is doing. And I am fairly detached (which angers him) and I just let it wash over my as much as possible but I was really upset when I saw what he had done with the ironing board. I've actually been crying about it. It was just so unnecessary. So I think he is trying to sabotage my new job, and I need to get out. But now after googling flats to rent I am really depressed, I have a cat and a dog, this house works for me. And kids are coming back from uni in a couple of weeks when term ends.

When I've spoken to WA the idea of a refuge doesn't seem to fit with me no point in taking a room when I could rent privately. If H was violent things would be different. If he left it would be fantastic, absolutely lovely, we have a great time when he isn't around, but he needs to be in London for work over the next few weeks so not much chance of him moving to the weekend house. Plus he doesn't like to go to that house without someone else I think he gets bored on his own (whereas personally I love being on my own).

I'm going to call WA today, they were organizing counselling for me but I put things on hold for the new job. My question is, WTF do I do?? I was all for the idea of moving out until I realized how many problems that thew up and how much of an adjustment that would be, with the new job as priority. And it isn't really all that affordable. I know this is a question so many have had to deal with, and why staying always seems so much easier somehow. But I need to do something. I'm thinking that I can possibly speak to a lawyer about getting an agreement drawn up where we both live her but separately until we sell the house and I can buy another one, basically try to recreate the house we have on a smaller scale for 1/2 the money.

OK I'm feeling more angry than sad now I know I have been told to LTB before but I think that this is the week when I finally need to act. Inertia is not an option. Bastard. I feel like I want to hurt him and I hate myself for that. Stupid ironing board. I know I can manage him as I've been doing, but at the cost to myself of all my self worth and sanity!

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thatsnotmynamereally · 06/12/2013 07:42

Ok. Just spoke to him, he's very sad and remorseful and says he he hadn't realized what he was doing. He says it is because he has 'undiagnosed black depression '. I am prepared to go along with this farce, keeps him focused on himself while I figure out what to do.

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Ruprekt · 06/12/2013 07:47

What a horrible man! HmmHmmHmm

Take care OP. ((((()))))

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Lweji · 06/12/2013 07:58

I've been there and his stance changed from day to night as he stepped over the threshold.

Really, the best option for you is to stay away from this man. :(

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SirSugar · 06/12/2013 08:00

Ah, the sympathy card - HE wants sympathy for his shite behaviour.

He is like the thief who's not sorry they committed the crime, just sorry they've been caught

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Lweji · 06/12/2013 08:05

As you go back, even feigning sympathy, he will do his best to tighten his control over you.

If you do go back, and I strongly advise you against it, make sure you have a fall back plan already in place.
Leave some clothes, money and documents at your friend, for example.

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Blu · 06/12/2013 08:06

Bloody hell, sorry to hear that you have been left high and dry.

All strength to you as you continue moving forwards. Spend the weekend working in a focussed way to look after your own future. I suspect that he will try and coerce you to go to your weekend house with him - my advice is do not go, spend the weekend sorting out your future

Please, please do not worry abut imposing on friends. It isn't 'imposing'. It is the result oh you having been in such an emotionally abusive relationship for so long that you feel as if you are an imposition. Any friend would be more than willing t support you in these circumstances. Your friend will NOT be finding it an imposition. It may be a bit inconvenient, but that isn't the same thing. We all embrace inconvenience to help a friend.

And remember: black depression. has that been responsible for years of you doing the ironing and cooking and having no choice of what you do at the weekends? Because this is all about what has happened over years, not just the last 48 hours.

OP, please, please make sure that you don't let his reaction to the police make you feel trapped and that you can never ask for their help again.

Good luck getting sound legal advice from solicitor.

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livingzuid · 06/12/2013 08:23

Depression is not like that at all. Take it from one who has been there in many big black depressions. It's a lie.

If you do go back (and I don't think you should) then please take care. You can sort your life out from outside the house though you don't have to return. And repeat the legal advice and safeguarding any bank accounts you share.

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Lweji · 06/12/2013 08:31

Also, if you go back (don't!) buy a cheap PAYG phone and keep it hidden from him.

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turbochildren · 06/12/2013 08:38

Have just red this through. please ignore the "you have no idea what you've done". The police came because he made a very serious threat to you. You looked after yourself. He is the one who have behaved appallingly. Please move out, get a friend to help you pack your stuff when husband is out of the house.
The police came because sadly his threats are of such a nature he may well carry them out. That may feel surreal, but is how it often goes unfortunately.
Please don't worry about him. Worry about yourself. Luckily you have a job and money, and in time I'm sure you'll be settled financially. Please consider your own safety now.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 06/12/2013 08:40

Acting like the injured party, "My career's threatened", "I'm so depressed", he will now beg you not to tell anyone like family or friends.

Keep your phone charged and close by. Something someone told me once, if you didn't do so before, start wearing hard soled shoes or trainers in the house in case you have to make a quick exit.

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Ledkr · 06/12/2013 08:44

Oh come on op, you are kidding yourself, depressed people don't have the energy to try and control people or use sky underhand tactics.
What are you going to do now, because he will almost definitely step things up a notch.

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Lweji · 06/12/2013 08:54

What you are particularly kidding yourself is that you'll be able to control the situation and work to get out.

It's easier to get out once you are out, meaning now.

Once you're back in you'll find reasons to stay rather than means to leave. And he'll do his best to punish you for calling the police and to keep you more and more.

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Ledkr · 06/12/2013 09:25

Totally echo lweji

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Mishmashofstyles · 06/12/2013 10:08

Agree that going back would be a mistake. :(

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Delilahlilah · 06/12/2013 11:13

Op, please do not go back. He is manipulating you. He is making excuses because, for once, he's been called on his behaviour. He knows full well what he has been doing, which is why he doesn't treat other people this way.you are putting yourself in harm's way if you go back. Go to the weekend place with your DD, and lock him out.

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Handywoman · 06/12/2013 11:29

I think the 'I'm depressed' stage should become included as part of the famous 'cycle of abuse'. In my case I bought it and needlessly stayed a furthe three years in my EA marriage. If in doubt OP read your thread again from the start.

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hellsbellsmelons · 06/12/2013 11:46

Please do not go back.
Things are going to get steadily worse.
He had been abusing you throughout your whole relationship.
You know it's a farce regarding the depression bit but it doesn't mean you should go back,
Your friend will want to help you out with this.
Explain everything to her - or she could read this thread but do not leave there to return to your abusive H.
Your safety is at stake here.
If I was your friend I would not want you to go back and would insist on you staying with me!!
People want to help - let them!

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 06/12/2013 11:49

I know your DCs are due home for Christmas and you may dread telling them and upsetting them. I would put money on it your H will play on your desire to shield them. They may already sense that there are tensions at home. It is painful but you need to put yourself first, consider your safety. If you go home to fetch clothes, documents, keys, don't go alone.

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Cerisier · 06/12/2013 12:17

Another vote for being very very careful. He could be extremely nasty and devious by the sound of it.

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Anniegetyourgun · 06/12/2013 12:22

I'm glad you say "go along with this farce". At least you realise it isn't real remorse or sadness. "But I didn't know threatening to smash a woman's face in was an offence." No dear, of course you didn't Hmm

However I am rather aghast at the police suggesting you go back and talk to him. I suppose they're going on the assumption that he won't try anything since he knows they've got half an eye on the situation. Bit of a risky assumption IMO.

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thatsnotmynamereally · 06/12/2013 13:19

He says he's depressed and needs help. So. I called doctors and had tearful conversation, explainung all, saying he needs appt if only for me to be seen trying, I want to hand his mental well being to someone else. If he can say 'I'm depressed ' there are a series of actions and expectations that follow so if that's in place I amless open to direct confrontation. And his. Behaviour will be monitored. Still might get injunction but just trying to get thru work day.

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thatsnotmynamereally · 06/12/2013 13:23

Yes police think fear of arrest is enough for him as he's not been violent. But he's v aggrieved about 'what I did to him'

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TheCatThatSmiled · 06/12/2013 13:34

Good luck OP, if you can get that injunction, get it. His mental health (ha!) is not your problem to resolve.

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DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 06/12/2013 13:39

Need I ask what his attitude would be if you reacted by saying, "Actually, your behaviour has been so upsetting, I am on the edge, I need help, I can't cope"?

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thatsnotmynamereally · 06/12/2013 13:46

Donkey he would say its proof that I am the mentally unstable one!

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