My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Relationships

I've been thinking.

142 replies

FrenchRuby · 28/12/2012 17:02

Hi I posted the other day about my dh hating the fact I'm close to my guy best friend.
If I'm honest it's all gone a bit down hill. I'm just going to write stuff down because its easier than keeping it all in my head.
He outright accused me of cheating on him. No evidence or reason to think this other than my friend texting me saying he was home from work (in the other thread I said about this, he was worried about falling asleep on the bus etc.... Very harmless jokey conversation). Anyway this hurt me more than I expected it to. It ruined Christmas for me, I couldn't look at him without feeling angry, I didn't want him near me or hugging me or anything. He sensed I was angry and said that he was leaving, he'd ruined christmas and he'd phone mil to tell her not to bother coming round. I told him not to be selfish, dd and ds were really looking forward to seeing mil. He said he didn't care and if they came round he would be going out. Then it changed to 'what do you want me to do? Leave or stay' I never said anything about going to him?! So this confused me, why was he making it all down to me?
I've been thinking about the past few years and everything all rolled into one just seems so wrong. When I went out for a night out I had a cigarette (I'd quit for 3 years because he didn't like it) I told him on my way home and he hung up, phoned back 2 mins later and said he'd taken 20 paracetamols and he wanted to die. I came home and found out that that was all a lie. I have no idea why he did this?
When I go out he bugs me about what time I'm coming home. It'll go something like this:
'Are you going to get the half 11 bus home?'
'Provably not that's quite early'
'Can you please just get that bus, I want to spend time with you before we go to bed' (baring in mind I go out on my own maybe once every two-three months)
He will phone and text throughout the whole time I am out to make sure I don't miss my bus, along with asking who's out, who I'm talking to and if any 'hot guys' have hit on me.
I will be honest and say that when he goes out I do ask what time roughly he'll be back, I never tell him a time and I don't mind what time he's back I just like to know if that makes sense? I don't phone him and just leave him to have fun.
He is a good husband and father, he is amazing with the kids, I can't fault him on that. He always tells me I'm pretty.
One thing he does do that really gets on my nerves is that he'll do something for me or buy me something, which is nice, but he'll go on and on about all the things he's bought me and done for me.

Anyway, I'm really sorry that's long but I had to write it down. I know everyone has complaints about their OH, I'm sure he has tons about me. I don't even think there's a point to my post, I just needed to get it out.

OP posts:
Report
FrenchRuby · 28/12/2012 19:25

I dont think he's financially abusive. He has his own money, he buys his own stuff, he just adds some things now and then to my littlewoods account because he doesn't have one. He pays for it all each month.

OP posts:
Report
AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 28/12/2012 19:32

but if he stops paying every month ?

you have no concern about that ?

Report
FrenchRuby · 28/12/2012 19:40

I do worry about it.

OP posts:
Report
JustFabulous · 28/12/2012 20:02

You shouldn't be worrying your husband won't pay what he owes. You should KNOW he will never let you down, otherwise what is the point of your marriage?

AF is never over dramatic. She is very very very wise and you would do well to listen to her.

Report
AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 28/12/2012 20:02

and he knows it

Report
Twattergy · 28/12/2012 20:10

I guarantee that you will not be alone for the rest of your life of you leave this man. Me and all of my friends split with all of our partners aged between 28 and 30. All of us are back in relationships, some within a matter of months, some a few years. A bit of time on your own will probably show you how decisive and strong you actually can be. I'm not saying that leaving a relationship is easy, it's not, especially with children. But don't fear a future alone, fear a future of intense unhappiness trapped in the wrong relationship. You have many many years ahead of you, so plenty of time to make a change and get a better life.

Report
ErikNorseman · 28/12/2012 20:29

You can do uni without him. You will get housing benefit, tax credits and you may be able to get childcare grants or a career development loan. It is entirely doable.
You kind of need to examine your own motivation in clinging on to a man who makes you unhappy. Of course you want a stable family. But this man isn't it.

Report
TeaAndTinselMakeChristmasShine · 28/12/2012 20:30

You would manage.

And, in my opinion, £1000 worth of debt you might get back is no reason to stay.

There are many ways you could manage - working, uni, access to benefits. You can do them in any order and they aren't mutually exclusive.

If you come up with three options - research them and see which works best for you. And as AF points what you do in 2013 might be different to 2014.

Report
FrenchRuby · 29/12/2012 09:26

Dh has now started following me in twitter. It's my birthday tomorrow and I'd arranged a night out and thought I would be a good time to see if dh and best friend could get along (its stupid, on paper they'd be such good friends, same interests, both into gaming etc..) but best friend is really ill so said he probably can't make it, I told dh and he said how do you know? So I said best friend had told me via twitter (which makes me wonder if he's been going through my texts because there wasn't any about him being ill, it had been a convo over twitter) so suddenly even though he had no interest in it before he's now set up and account.

OP posts:
Report
prettywhiteguitar · 29/12/2012 09:27

What do you think he's going to be like when you start at Uni and have Uni mates ? He could be unbearable.....

Honestly you are young, could meet some lovely educated guy at Uni who doesn't try to control your social life and your life could be amazing ! But if you stay with your h it could make the whole experience a nightmare.

Please ring women's aid, you can discuss the control thing with them and they can help you

Report
StuffezLaBouche · 29/12/2012 09:33

Prettywhiteguitar is exactly right about the uni men. It really opens your eyes to be surrounded by intelligent, sociable, pleasant men...your H will really up his controlling ways a notch once he realises this.

I would bet next month's salary that he looks through your texts on a regular basis. Of course he does. And would he ever let you have access to social media without him watching over you, vetting your contact?

Everything you say about him makes me so sad, but keep posting, keep reading and your eyes will gradually open. Do you have anything nice planned for today?

Report
FrenchRuby · 29/12/2012 09:39

I was supposed to be going out for my birthday with my friends(birthday is tomorrow) but dd has chicken pox and I don't think it's fair that mil has her when she's all spotty and grumpy, dh won't say to go without him, if I mention it he'll sulk.

OP posts:
Report
StuffezLaBouche · 29/12/2012 09:42

Of course he doesn't want you going out with out him - you might spontaneously have sex with another man! Hmm
It is YOUR special day tomorrow - put your foot down and say I am going out with my friends, will you please look after dd. Sulking is utterly wankerish behaviour and should be ignored.

Report
Cantbelieveitsnotbutter · 29/12/2012 09:54

Are you the girl that married my ex?!
My biggest regret is letting him push my friends away, is make excuses not to see or speak to them as he'd kick up a fuss, feign illnesses and behave as yours does. Basically it resulted in lost youth, wasted years and losing what were amazing friendships.
My advice is hold onto your friends and family with both hands, don't fall for games and stand up to him. He's doing it to keep you but all it will do is push you away

Report
FrenchRuby · 29/12/2012 10:00

I think the twitter thing was the last straw, it may seem minor but I don't need to be monitored, I'm certain he would have gone through mine and best friends twitter with a fine tooth comb, I'm waiting for little things to come out now, little digs and questions, even though there's nothing to have digs about, he'll find something.

OP posts:
Report
Allergictoironing · 29/12/2012 10:51

he makes arguing very hard, he breaks down and cries and makes it very difficult for me to not feel guilty if that makes sense?
Have you ever thought he does this BECAUSE it makes you feel guilty?
If I told him it was over he would cry and probably threaten to do something stupid to himself. Another incident of him trying to guilt-trip you.

Everything you've said about him in this thread and your previous one tells us he's a controlling bastard, and he will slowly get worse over time - slowly, because that way you will get more acclimatised to his behaviours & won't realise just how bad it has got until it's too late. I've watched this happening with friends in the past, watched them slowly being cut off from all their support network & ending up virtual non-persons who can't do anything without their "D"H's approval. And these women started out smart & sassy, just ended up that way over time Sad.

Report
AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 29/12/2012 10:53

When you dump this millstone around your neck, and get to Uni, you will absolutely kick yourself for giving this inadequate the headspace you have.

Report
SolidGoldFrankensteinandmurgh · 29/12/2012 12:28

This predator targeted you when you were young and vulnerable. He doesn't 'love' you, he considers you something between a pet and an object, something that he owns and is entitled to punish and control.
You really do need to get away from him. DOn't worry about him killing himself, men like this love themselves far too much to do anything as useful as dying and getting out of your hair.

Report
Longdistance · 29/12/2012 12:34

He sounds very suffocating to me.

Report
FrenchRuby · 29/12/2012 13:02

I don't even know how to bring this up, as far as he's concerned everything is fine :/ I'm so used to just ignoring it and getting on with it.

OP posts:
Report
StuffezLaBouche · 29/12/2012 13:13

I think you have to know in your head and heart that there is no fixing this, no making it better. Until you have accepted you need to be apart, I think any discussions you try and have will lead to you being manipulated back and him upping his tactics.

Report
FrenchRuby · 29/12/2012 13:25

I don't think there is, we've had the same conversations over and over, it changes for maybe a month? And then goes back to before.

OP posts:
Report

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 29/12/2012 13:28

You don't have to stay with him. You don't owe anyone a relationship.

Report
Allergictoironing · 29/12/2012 13:32

Of course everything is fine in his mind FrenchRuby, because you just try to get on with life while fitting in with his awful behaviour. So he gets what he wants, and you've been trained into not complaining.

Write out a list (I LOVE lists Grin) of all the not-good stuff - you can use your posts on here as a starting point. Use that as the basis to tell him why you aren't happy. Then expect anything from one to all of the following list; list is unlikely to be exhaustive, I'm sure others will aff to it!

He will start to cry, & tell you that you're hurting him so please stop. Don't.
He will promise to change. He won't, or at least not in the long term.
He will pick up one tiny little aspect of one or two things on your list, and justify that to death. Then he will suggest that because he's managed to justify that one tiny little thing, everything is OK. He's then managed to turn the whole fact of him being a controlling shite into you over-reacting about something tiny.
He will tell you that you're imagining most of it, and the rest is all you over-reacting. You aren't doing either.
He will blame it all on those (insert his favorite derogatory word for non-compliant women) on MN for trying to tell you that your perfectly good marriage is bad. Or he may blame it on a family member/friend if he hasn't managed to isolate you from them all.
He may lose it & start shouting at you, though I get the impression he tends to manipulate you more by PA behaviours.

Over to you other MNers, add to the list of common ways men react to finally being stood up to.

Report
Allergictoironing · 29/12/2012 13:33

Ah X-posted with you. So he can't really think there's nothing wrong if you have the conversation over & over. And surely this is proof that he will never ever change (except maybe get even more controlling over time)

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.