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Wife doesn't love me anymore

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Lostdad31 · 19/10/2012 06:36

My wife and I have been married for 2 years, and together for 5. We have 2 amazing little ones, a little girl who's almost 2 and a half, and our little man who's coming up to 8 months. We have the perfect family...or so I thought.

She recently told me she's become confused, and has lost something. She said she doesn't love me anymore. She's adamant it's nothing I've done, she told me I'm the perfect husband and the perfect father but her feelings have just changed. I was completely devastated! If it wasn't for the kids she would already have left, but she said she'll give it some time for their sakes. I was obviously very confused and subsequently looked at her phone - I know I shouldn't of but I wasn't exactly thinking clearly. There were texts on their between my wife and someone from her work, very flirty messages about her picturing him in the shower, and wanting to meet up etc. Needless to say I was broken. Our relationship has always been perfect, and I never thought she could betray and hurt me this way. She says nothing has happened, and it's just flirting, which she realises she shouldn't have done and is really sorry for. Apparently it's a sympton not the cause.

But now I'm just lost. I'm constantly on the verge of tears, and I look at the kids and imagine our perfect family being broken up and it kills me.

I've told her I will do anything I can to make it work, I still love her so very much I ache. Everytime I think of her flirting with this other man it feels like a stab through my heart, but I've convinced myself that if I can reawaken her feelings and feel loved again then I can trust her again. Am I deluding myself? Part of me feels like she's already made her decision and this period of giving it some time is to allay her guilt.

Help me!

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StuntGirl · 21/10/2012 02:30

Sgb gave some really good advice there, please think about doing as she says.

Your wife has treated you awfully, you need to try and wrestle some control back, for your own sanity. I think she'd better get used to being away from the kids too, since splitting will (hopefully) give you shared custody. She's being selfish and cruel and you need to put yours and the kids needs first right now; lord knows she isn't.

Seeing a solicitor is vital, and should be your first priority.

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Charbon · 21/10/2012 03:10

Try to get inside your DW's head right now. Do a bit of reading too about the effect an affair has on an individual and then in turn, their relationship.

Your wife is having an affair with another man. It doesn't matter whether she's had sex with him yet or not; she wants to. When this started, she entered into a headspace that is as close to insanity as it comes. She is addicted to not just this man, but the fact that he finds her desirable and worthwhile. She is as addicted to the affair itself and the thrills it gives her as she is to him.

But she's been socialised all her life to believe that women don't have affairs unless there's something drastically wrong in their relationships and that women don't have affairs just because they fancy a sexual adventure with someone else. Maybe even that women can't have sex without love or strong feelings for a man.

Now none of that's true at all, but because that social discourse is so relentless, as soon as she started to enjoy this flirtation and took it further, she probably convinced herself that it must mean she was secretly unhappy with you and that she has stronger feelings for her work colleague than mere lust.

So instead of realising this is just a crush brought on by returning to work and feeling like a woman in her own right for the first time in ages, wearing clothes not covered in baby sick, she has talked herself into thinking your marriage is doomed and that the most ethical thing to do is to end things with you. Oh, and that she must be deeply in love with the OM......Hmm

No amount of pleading and counselling is going to alter the course she is on right now. She doesn't want to be talked out of this second relationship.

The only strategy that has ever been known to work in this situation (for both parties) is loss.

So you tell her that you've got too much self-respect to stay with a woman who doesn't love you and who is lusting after someone else. That you want a clean break and to agree on living separately from now on - sharing residence with the children. That you'll be going to see a solicitor because you've found out that an emotional affair constitutes ample grounds for divorce (it does, incidentally).

And then you withdraw completely. You take back control of the situation and show her what life will be without you in it. You also tell everyone you've parted and why.

In private, with friends and family and on this thread, cry as much as you need to and speak about your sadness. But don't do that with her.

Only if she thinks she's lost you for good, will she stop this course she's set on. Even then, she might not alter that course straightaway. But I promise you, she will never stop what she is doing as long as she thinks she's got a fall-back position and that you'll be waiting for her when this all goes belly-up, as of course it will.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 21/10/2012 08:57

Please listen to Charbon - the only way to burst the bubble she is in is LOSS and a hard cold dose of reality. As it is, what you have offered her will not work and the torture will continue....

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 21/10/2012 11:05

Listen to charbon

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colditz · 21/10/2012 11:42

Don't leave. Y have done nothing wrong. I would seriously go for 50/50 residency of the children, and make it clear you will not be helping her move, you are not going to let her swan out and leave you with the children every Saturday night, only to come back on Sunday and take them away for fun time. If she wants to go, fine. She lives without her children for a week at a time and she lives without them full stop unless she finds somewhere reasonable to live. A new mans house is not reasonable.

She's being cruel, and I'm not suggesting you do that, but stop being KIND

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colditz · 21/10/2012 11:43

I would strongly suggest you reduce your hours at work if at all possible, in order to give the children the best of you that you can.

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MmeDefarge · 21/10/2012 11:44

Charon has nailed it.

Also agree with MumsyBlouse that this Mr Showerman sexting is unlikely to have just suddenly started when she went back to work after mat leave. There must have been the germ of something between them before then.

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MaBaya · 21/10/2012 12:29

I actually think there is an incredible cruelty and nastiness from many posters on this thread. It is quite depressing. The nails are out. Whoever said upthread that women are softer on other women was so very wrng!

OP, you sound lovely. I really feel for you. i hope you can find the right path through this whole mess. Counselling CAN work, but your wife would need t be as committed to it as you are. Otherwise, as you have correctly identified, it might be time to start talking about separation.

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 21/10/2012 12:34

< shrug > it makes a change from people complaining that MN'ers always take the woman's side

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MadAboutHotChoc · 21/10/2012 12:35

Mabaya - we are speaking from experience.

If you are lost in your fantasy fuelled affair bubble, addicted to ego boosting texts and attention from OM/OW, dragging you to counselling will not work - just ask all the posters on here who have tried this tactic.

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MaBaya · 21/10/2012 12:41

I have had plenty of experience of this, too, unhappily.

I try not to let it turn me in to a vicious, bitter person, though.

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 21/10/2012 12:43

The Op has been advised to take practical steps to protect himself emotionally, practically and financially and to stop making excuses for the way he is being treated

I am not sure how that is construed as "vicious and bitter"

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CanAnybodyMakeSenseofThis · 21/10/2012 12:48

Having done pretty much what your wife did (many years ago - and I'm still bitterly ashamed of my behavior) I have to say that Charbon speaks total sense. Take control of the situation, focus on your children.

I'm also the child of divorced parents. The pain of a relationship break up will pass - the pyschological damage a badly handled divorce can do to children, does not.

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OneMoreGo · 21/10/2012 14:13

What marvellous posts from both Charbon and solidgoldbrass. Do heed them both, for they speak sense.

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solidgoldbrass · 21/10/2012 14:28

It's also true that sometimes relationships have simply run their course, and the only thing to do is make the separation as civil as possible. It's not nice to be left by a partner, but it is survivable.

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Charbon · 21/10/2012 15:18

Agree that some relationships have a shelf-life and if they've run their course for one or both partners, the kindest thing to do is to split as amicably as possible, especially if children are shared.

But I think that is unlikely to have happened in this relationship. Their wedding was only 2 years ago and they had another child only 8 months ago. The OP had also been under the impression that the marriage was secure and happy, until his wife spoke of changed feelings and simultaneously, the OP discovered her relationship with another man.

The OP has got to deal with what is in the open domain though and accept what his wife is now telling him - that her love for him flew out of the window before she got involved with someone else, but for some reason failed to tell him that and instead gave the impression that she was still happy with him. The OP's entitled to feel aggrieved about that of course and his focus should now be on protecting himself and his children.

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mumincov · 21/10/2012 15:26

With an 8 month old baby, are you sure she might not be suffering from PND (even if only mild)?

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skyebluezombie · 21/10/2012 15:26

Exactly the same story as me, he didn't announce he was unhappy until he got involved with OW.

They aren't unhappy until they fall for someone else

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MaBaya · 21/10/2012 15:32

I think keeping things civil and seeking to deal with feelngs of pain and anger and bitterness in constructive ways (perhaps through therapy) is the best way forward. Behaving in a cold heared or undignified way wont help anyone in the ong run.

Good luck, OP.

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NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 21/10/2012 17:16

You let her come back? Confused

So that whole exercise just so that she got to miss the kids?
You should have told her to stay away and smell the coffee, lie in the bed she made, etc.

Telling her you love her and will do everything you can to make it work, is giving her ALL the control in the relationship. Who cares that you love her, when she is playing away?

I dont see what you have achieved, aside from reassuring your wife that SHE is calling the shots still.

YOU cannot make it work. That is her job. SHE is the one who has allowed herself to fall in love with a colleague, not you.

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OneMoreChap · 21/10/2012 17:24

File for divorce.

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Helltotheno · 21/10/2012 21:32

MaBaya my advice would be the same for a woman OP in the same situation, in fact the Relationships board is full of just this advice to women whose DHs are behaving the same way.

The OP sounds very dignified to me.

Don't confuse 'cold-hearted' with 'detached for your own emotional protection'. I don't see any cold-heartedness from the OP but in order to force the situation forward decisively, he definitely needs to detach for the moment.

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Lostdad31 · 22/10/2012 09:46

Wife's birthday today. Struggling.

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