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kitchen planning... what mistakes did you make

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HerHonesty · 18/12/2009 18:43

have suddenly realised htat with the builders in in feb i need to get a move on with my kitchen planning... so what mistakes did you make that you can pass on... or even what's the best thing in your kitchen that you are glad you did..

all help most gratefully received

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Fleecy · 30/12/2009 14:48

We had our kitchen done in the Spring and I spent a whole year planning it - I'm happy with everything so definitely worth giving it some thought!

I went for solid surface worktops and they're great - thick, hard-wearing, you get seamless joins and you can polish out any scratches.

Also got slate-effect floor tiles for £7sqm and they're easy to keep clean and look good.

I agree gloss can be very high maintenance but white is fine - I'm not much of a one for cleaning my kitchen cupboards and I have two toddlers but it's not a problem. Coloured gloss shows more fingermarks though, the darker it is, the more it'll show.

I went for lots of wide pan drawers. You can fit tonnes of stuff in and get to everything easily. Also got one large and one small pull-out cupboard and they do fit loads of stuff in. Definitely worth it.

Wall oven is a definite plus with little children around.

I chose an induction hob which is great. So easy to clean and it heats everything up so quickly. Water boils much faster than in my kettle! And safe for the children as it works by creating a circuit with the base of the pan so the ring doesn't get as hot as on a convential hob and it cools quickly - safe for kids. Also, any part of the ring that doesn't touch the pan doesn't heat up. And it has a childlock on the controls.

I'd have had a boiling water tap if I had any budget left but they're not cheap!

Something else I love - I got a tambour unit. one of those roll-down steel things. I don't much like the look of them generally but as our kitchen is white gloss and slate it looks good - and it hides shelving with my tea, coffee, fruit bowl etc on and my kettle and toaster in the bottom. So if you're having a contemporary kitchen, it basically means you can pull the front down over all your bits and bobs and hide them away easily, keeping the 'clean lines' minimalist look without actually being tidy!

Think about where you want your sockets. Where do you want your microwave, kettle, toaster etc. Do you have an electric steamer/food processor etc and where will you use them? Add extra sockets just in case. Again, because we've got a very contemporary kitchen, we've put sockets in out of the way places where you don't notice them. For example, there are no sockets on the end wall where the hob is as that's where your eye is drawn. Instead, there are a couple down each side where you hardly realise they're there. You can get pop-up socket things but again they're quite expensive.

Think about lighting - get it right and it'll make all the difference. It doesn't have to be expensive either if you shop around online. We've got one main central light over the breakfast bar which is a bit of a statement light, spotlights over the actual kitchen bit and lights under the wall cupboards which create a nice soft light and really make it.

Fleecy · 30/12/2009 14:48

Sorry for the long post! I get a bit carried away when it comes to my kitchen!

Fleecy · 30/12/2009 14:50

Have also realised you asked for mistakes - but having had the kitchen for nine months now, I'm actually happy with all but one thing.

We didn't specify that we wanted steel handles on the windows and french doors and they've come with brass ones. Now we'll have to change them as they really don't go! Will get round to it one day...

MaHumbug · 30/12/2009 14:52

We have a washing up bowl for ours. When DH washes up, he gets a bad back because he doesn't lift out the item to wash. We're sorely in need of a dishwasher.

I'm sure it was mentioned on here before as a joke but, seriously, if i could afford it and had enough space I'd have 2 dishwashers. One for clean and one for dirty dishes and I'd never need to unload the dishwaher ever again. Have I already mentioned that I am a self confessed slattern?

ilovepiccolina · 31/12/2009 12:21

I've had a dishwasher for about four years, and I swear it has changed my life. Even I got fed up with me whinging about continuous washing-up. Stacking all the cruddy dishes at night & coming down in the morning to a full, clean 'Dishy' (he's male) is heaven.

HerbalHolly · 31/12/2009 18:58

About slate flooring? My sister's flooring throughout the downstairs of her house is all slate (with underfloor heating so it's not cold to touch) and she loves it. It always looks great, it's easy to sweep and she is very happy with it.

Lovecat · 31/12/2009 19:21

Make sure whoever fits your kitchen does the floor FIRST all the way under your units and NOT after they've put the units in and just up to the edges of the units, that way when the integrated appliances that your DH insisted on having break down, the repair man won't find that he can't drag them out over the lip of the flooring to mend them, something that's been hidden from you til now because of the integration...

I'm not bitter. Honest.

paulaplumpbottom · 31/12/2009 19:22

If you have an island make sure there are covered outlets somewhere on it

uglymugly · 31/12/2009 19:30

Oh, lovecat, thanks for the reminder. We haven't had to drag out any appliances for ages, so I'd forgotten that. I've added your flooring suggestion to my list of things for our upcoming new kitchen.

ministryofsleep · 31/12/2009 19:38

watching with interest as getting new kitchen in January

FuriousGeorge · 31/12/2009 20:59

lovecat I'm planning a kitchen and had that worry too.I was advised to put a sheet of wood or hardboard underneath them if it wasn't possible to fit the floor right under them.Mine won't be integrated though,just under the counter between two units,so it might be different.

Toots · 01/01/2010 10:33

Fleecey same here re brass window handles. I painted over with a silver coloured metal paint (priming first) Looks fine.

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/01/2010 12:30

We went for pan drawers instead of cupboards, so no losing items right at the back any more. We also put a drawer under the dishwasher so that it was lifted up about two feet. It makes it a lot easier to load and unload with no bending over.

Think about the ovens carefully. We have two, stacked one above the other (with another pan drawer below, natch!). One oven is so easy to clean because the door hinges on the bottom, then slides completely under the oven. The other oven hinges to the bottom too, but doesn't slide under, so that I'm reaching over the door to clean it and it's very difficult to get up to the back.

I second the induction hob as a god idea. Heats quickly, uses less power, really easy to clean.

We also put in a granite worktop because we liked the look and thought it would be hardwearing. As a plus, we found that if you place frozen items on it they defrost faster than when placed on wood.

Squishabelle · 01/01/2010 12:46

Toots - i didnt know you could paint over brass handles. I am currently de-brassing my house (vile stuff is brass!), so have got loads of window handles. Door handles and light/sockets all have to be changed too - dont think it will be possible to paint them but will have a go with the window ones.

hifi · 01/01/2010 15:21

pan draws are heaven, pull ot larder is fab, would have had 2 if id known.ice?water dispenser.we have floor level lighting as well as over head and it looks lovely at nigh

midnightexpress · 01/01/2010 15:38

If you're getting an ice/water dispenser, make sure you can lock it. They are irresistible to small children...

Rollmops · 01/01/2010 15:58

Antique brass is absolutely lovely, I can't bear the shiny silvery bits that so obviously scream - not silver. However, each their own and all that...

Fleecy · 02/01/2010 18:08

This is 80s style brass, not proper antiquey stuff. 'Tis horrid!

I'll try the painting - never would have thought of that so thanks Toots!

inthesticks · 02/01/2010 18:16

I had one of those pull out larder cupboards. It was incredibly wasteful of space. I eventually got a joiner to take out the pull out bit and fit it with five shelves. I can fit twice as much in it.
Also got rid of the island as it dominated the room. Replaced it with a table which you can move.

domesticslattern · 06/01/2010 13:01

If you have matt cupboard handles then don't go for a shiny metal tap or lampshade. As it will look weird.

Best things were pan drawers and dishwasher.

charleymouse · 06/01/2010 13:30

Paid almost all of bill (85%) before completion then company went bust. Had to pay to get it fitted (again), pay for worktops (again), and glass splashbacks still not sorted. Pay deposit then pay on completion or use credit card for guarantees. (paid by cheque )

Wish I had more drawers but cut down on them due to cost and replaced with cupboards.

Make sure it is exactly you want it as when being fitted mine had to be adjusted and I have an additional cupboard due to plumbing/dishwasher (but could have been designed around if known) and it does not flow as I had intended it to due to extra cupboard

Ordered soft closing doors and drawers but only drawers are soft closing. Helps prevent trapped fingers.

Remove all scourers from house as when DH has a cleaning frenzy he scours away half your gloss kitchen in selected patches.

My tiler recommended slate effect tiles as he said you get a lot of wastage as they are different thicknesses and can flake, so not ideal for small children/elderly as they can scrape themselves on them and trip as uneven.

I suggest you make a list of everything you want to keep with quantity and decide how it is best to keep it, eg pans in drawers, towels in /drawer or cupboard, toaster in ??? vases in ??? tinned goods in larder unit and so on then count up how many drawers/cupboards you need.

Also top cupboards are smaller if using them for specific items make sure the depth is sufficient, in previous house top cupboard would not fit my dinner plates.

Granite looks lovely but does need polishing and is more work than gloss units. Suggest if have granite do not have grooves as drainer but have a traditional style ground out draining board with grooves. Lots of granite I have seen just has grooves and then water puddles around sink area.

Drawers were supposed to have dividers but do not (yet) so have a mess of cutlery and utensils. Will have to get them sorted soon.

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