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Will these price falls continue ?

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DrySherry · 16/12/2025 09:17

So last year (late 2024) I was partly instrumental in the decision made by some younger family members to hold off buying a first property. They were worried about overpaying for a small first house and regretting it, becoming stuck, if values started to come down. With only a small deposit they could quickly be in negative equity, complicating the reality that both want to keep the financial flexibility to move house if better job openings appear in a different area.
I too thought that it was more likley than in has been at any point for the last couple of decades that prices will come back down in line with affordability. They didnt have a great deposit - so my advice was that they should focus on increasing that for a year or two. Giving them the option of more favourable lending rates when ready, and hopefully more house for the money if prices soften. We have since seen some falls in some areas but not as much as hoped for. They have over the last year done really well on saving and now have a good 10% plus deposit - instead of struggling to reach 5%. They are fortunate that they had, and still have, the option to stay put and continue to build a bigger starting fund and that's what they decided to do. Fortunately they rent from another family member and get a very reasonable deal.
After reading this latest rightmove report I have become hopeful for them that they may have made the right choice. I'm interested to hear what others expect to happen in the housing market in 2026 ? Do you think falls like this might continue or will values just dip a little again or flat line this year ?

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/average-house-price-6-695-000100433.html

Average house price is £6,695 lower than in November, says Rightmove

Lower asking prices and falling mortgage rates could help create a bigger than usual Boxing Day bounce in property searches, Rightmove said.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/average-house-price-6-695-000100433.html

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GasPanic · 17/12/2025 11:17

kittywittyandpretty · 17/12/2025 10:39

Do you understand how it works with the initial capital that you borrow?

The capital amount remains the same, The interest is paid monthly. The value of the capital is inflated away
The on paper gains that we’re gonna call equity in this case makes no odd to my ability to pay back the original loan to the bank.
Very disappointing, thought you had more of a grasp on it.

"Inflated away" to me seems somewhat optimistic.

£100K in 2025 was worth £56K in 2005.

A substantial reduction, but hardly chump change for most people, when AI suggests the average savings for people in the 50-60 year old range are somewhere in the region of £13K-£28K.

kittywittyandpretty · 17/12/2025 11:34

GasPanic · 17/12/2025 11:17

"Inflated away" to me seems somewhat optimistic.

£100K in 2025 was worth £56K in 2005.

A substantial reduction, but hardly chump change for most people, when AI suggests the average savings for people in the 50-60 year old range are somewhere in the region of £13K-£28K.

Agreed
But it would be unlikely that they would only have those savings if they were only paying the interest part of the mortgage. I pay a capital repayment mortgage these days and £500 a month of that goes towards the capital.
If I had an interest only Mortgage I would be paying £400 a month and I would be investing the other £500 in a stocks and shares ice cream and chances are. I would be making substantially more than 4% that I pay on the on the mortgage.

But again you make my point for me if 100 K is now 56 inflation is doing its job 🤦‍♀️

kittywittyandpretty · 17/12/2025 11:35

Baahbaahmutton · 17/12/2025 11:07

I think most people who bought in last 20 years really didn't buy house proced the way that they can just put on credit cards when needed....

More fool than them by the sounds of it

kittywittyandpretty · 17/12/2025 11:36

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 10:49

Nice way to evade the valid criticism @kittywittyandpretty
It's people who express views like yours who encourage others to make potentially devastating decisions wrt their borrowing.

Again, somebody with a basic grasp of economics is in a better position to be advising anybody outside of the regulated services then somebody who doesn’t understand capital versus interest
You can take that as criticism

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 14:00

NotDavidTennant · 17/12/2025 10:59

If we go into a recession with a large number of job losses then I agree prices won't keep going up.

I'm not sure why you'd expect that to happen though. Economic stagnation and perhaps a technical recession yes, but large scale job losses seems a bit doomerist to me.

I think it will be a lot worse than what you describe. I guess we will need to wait 5 or 10 years to see if I am 'doomerist' or not.

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 14:02

kittywittyandpretty · 17/12/2025 11:36

Again, somebody with a basic grasp of economics is in a better position to be advising anybody outside of the regulated services then somebody who doesn’t understand capital versus interest
You can take that as criticism

Thanks @kittywittyandpretty. Hopefully, no one reading will jump into an interest only mortgage on the basis of your great 'grasp of economics'.

BadgernTheGarden · 17/12/2025 14:07

The budget has finally gone and none of the draconian measures happened so people waiting to decide to buy may do so in the spring or at least after Christmas. The base rate may be cut tomorrow predictions say, if so housing will take a boost as mortgage rates should fall. I think house prices will go up next year.

BadgernTheGarden · 17/12/2025 14:18

You probably wouldn't have an interest only mortgage forever, maybe initially if it was hard to afford capital payments, then switch as your career progresses. Or switch when you sell the first house and trade up.

BadgernTheGarden · 17/12/2025 14:31

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 10:49

Nice way to evade the valid criticism @kittywittyandpretty
It's people who express views like yours who encourage others to make potentially devastating decisions wrt their borrowing.

Unless inflation disappears it is true that the initial cost of the house is less in real terms as time goes by, maybe 20% less in 10 years and similarly inflation increases the current value of the house. An interest only mortgage could be a disaster, if you need to sell and prices crashed just after you bought (even with a standard mortgage you could be in trouble), but if you are staying put you can ride it out and you still have the house to live in rather than paying rent.

PrincessofWells · 17/12/2025 16:11

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 09:02

Not everyone is desperate for a fall. Those in the business are clearly desperate for rises, which haven't been happening recently.
I do think that many people, including those who already own, realise that prices are completely out of sink with wages and general affordability and need to come down to restore some balance. At this point, the unaffordability of housing and general level of inequality is causing major social problems.

Not really. The issue is governments not keeping a good stock of social housing. There will always be people who whatever they do they will never sustain a mortgage, and it's those people for whom governments have decided the private rental sector should pick up. Unfortunately they have now destroyed the prs without making any alternative arrangements for housing those people, which is why there is a homelessness crisis again.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 17/12/2025 16:15

DrySherry · 17/12/2025 09:19

Yes, the trend is also pretty clear for 2025. I was thinking that 2026 would likley be worse. However having now been alerted in this thread to the possibility of the return of some form of interest only lending. I'm less than sure about that. I am starting to think that if they do go back to some form of looser lending - then the introduction of that would be the time for my relatives to get on with it. If they waited for very much longer it could start prices increasing again. A significant number of people do tend to max out when buying. Interest only may increase what they can borrow ? Historically the result of that tends to be higher prices.

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I would say though that they are in an enviable position just as they are with cheap rent from a family member allowing them to save quite a bit.
I do wish the government would stop with their interference with the market.
What they have done over the last few decades has made things worse not better, unless you are talking about the builders who it has definitely made things better for.

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 18:48

BadgernTheGarden · 17/12/2025 14:31

Unless inflation disappears it is true that the initial cost of the house is less in real terms as time goes by, maybe 20% less in 10 years and similarly inflation increases the current value of the house. An interest only mortgage could be a disaster, if you need to sell and prices crashed just after you bought (even with a standard mortgage you could be in trouble), but if you are staying put you can ride it out and you still have the house to live in rather than paying rent.

Yes I understand the concept but you still make a lot of assumptions about real wages rising in excess of CPI/RPI inflation and riding out crashes. As you say, a fall in house prices is certainly relevant too.

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 18:50

PrincessofWells · 17/12/2025 16:11

Not really. The issue is governments not keeping a good stock of social housing. There will always be people who whatever they do they will never sustain a mortgage, and it's those people for whom governments have decided the private rental sector should pick up. Unfortunately they have now destroyed the prs without making any alternative arrangements for housing those people, which is why there is a homelessness crisis again.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'not really'. What you mention is clearly an issue and has been so for 40 years, getting steadily worse. It's definitely not the only reason for the social crisis, which is present in lots of other countries too.

rainingsnoring · 17/12/2025 18:51

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 17/12/2025 16:15

I would say though that they are in an enviable position just as they are with cheap rent from a family member allowing them to save quite a bit.
I do wish the government would stop with their interference with the market.
What they have done over the last few decades has made things worse not better, unless you are talking about the builders who it has definitely made things better for.

Exactly. Two things we can pretty much guarantee is that the government, BOE and other central banks will step in very, very strongly once things start going wrong and that they will only mess things up further.

KeepPumping · 18/12/2025 15:10

kirinm · 16/12/2025 09:41

Everyone is obviously desperate for there to be a fall or even a crash. I guess that could happen in some areas but it definitely won’t happen everywhere. People still need and want homes. Mortgage rates are - for some - lower than 4% (mine is).

I think do-er uppers will still struggle to sell as people are starting to understand how expensive construction is now.

I guess we will get a better idea in the New Year. The lack of changes to stamp duty will have calmed some fears for sure.

A lot will depend on what happens in Japan, their interest rate decision is tomorrow. Japan heavily influences credit/bond markets while the UK/BOE is basically at the mercy of credit/bond markets, volatility is building, not a good time to go large on the mortgage debt.

KeepPumping · 18/12/2025 15:19

GasPanic · 16/12/2025 18:59

Unfortunately this is the sort of thinking that goes on after prices have risen consistently for years.

In reality house prices can flatline or decrease. Especially if you factor in inflation. My place has not really risen that much since 2019 when inflation is taken into account. I have seen prices in my area for new build flats below what they were selling for in 2005 (nod to XVGN).

Looking further afield in places like Japan I believe the property market has struggled to regain prices after a crash decades ago.

Some people might say stuff like, the property market may never fall long term or stagnate in the UK, normally with random qualifiers like "they're not building any more land" and "house prices can only go up".

But some people also claimed things like the GFC was a six sigma event as well.

I have no idea where the market is heading in the UK in the short, medium or long term. But I wouldn't want to stake my life on it behaving in the next few decades the same way it has done on the previous few.

https://www.firstpost.com/world/bank-of-japan-set-to-raise-interest-rates-to-30-year-high-amid-bond-market-jitters-ws-e-13960129.html

If the Japan bond market causes U.S yields to rise UK will follow, the crucial measure is the "Ten Year Yield" that is the guide to how much your mortgage debt will cost.

bumblebee1000 · 18/12/2025 15:38

I do one day a week in estate agents...cheap flats are selling quite fast but they are cheapish...houses not really shifting and very little for sale. east london.

BadgernTheGarden · 18/12/2025 16:06

And as predicted BoE interest rate drop. It will be interesting to see the effect on mortgage rates and house sales.

Papricat · 18/12/2025 16:58

Swaps rates edging higher after the cut as BoE foresees little easing ahead. 4% is the new 2% for mortgages, house prices have yet fully adjusted to this new paradigm due to high rents but the latter are now dropping as well amid negative migration. I am a home owner not a doomer but the outlook is clearly grim. November alone saw the worse drop in London property over the last two years, as per ONS.

KeepPumping · 18/12/2025 19:32

PrincessofWells · 16/12/2025 11:49

Hmm, no. Everyone is not desperate for a fall or a crash. We need to build more housing for people and if there is a significant downwards movement building will grind to a halt.

Well past that point now I think.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-13/london-homebuilding-on-track-to-fall-to-quarter-of-normal-levels

Papyrophile · 18/12/2025 19:56

We have owned our house since 1997. We paid the going rate in a static market, and we've been here almost 30 years, and now the mortgage is paid off. It was the house for the family we went on to have, but while it is still a delightful house with a fabulous outlook, it is no longer where we want to live. We shan't need as much space in the future, but as DH is 6'5" we also will not be interested in cramped cottages with limited headroom. Ideally we would also like to have a nice view, although a different one.

We are thinking of selling next year, to relocate to a completely different area, that we think will be more fun for us in our 70s. Closer to friends and family, better rail/air links, in a naice town. Reality tells me that we shall not release much money by moving. Plus the stamp duty -- and any refurb is going to cost more than it did 10 years ago, and by moving 200 miles away I shall have completely lost a 30 year database of trusted contractors.

Any opinions? I/We don't want to stay where we are, but sometimes the big picture is a bit big?

Papyrophile · 18/12/2025 20:04

Left behind areas like Redcar, Hartlepool, Sheffield, etc, etc.

I don't know anything about Redcar and Hartlepool, but Sheffield is one of the fastest markets in the UK right now. A friend's daughter is moving there and has had to move very swiftly to have an offer accepted on a 2-up 2-down terraced house in the area she wants.

KeepPumping · 18/12/2025 21:53

Papyrophile · 18/12/2025 20:04

Left behind areas like Redcar, Hartlepool, Sheffield, etc, etc.

I don't know anything about Redcar and Hartlepool, but Sheffield is one of the fastest markets in the UK right now. A friend's daughter is moving there and has had to move very swiftly to have an offer accepted on a 2-up 2-down terraced house in the area she wants.

Looks like sales are dropping fast though, financial crisis levels?

https://www.plumplot.co.uk/Sheffield-property-transactions.html

Sheffield property sales volumes in maps and graphs. November 2025

Between 11/2024-10/2025, there were 15.3k property sales and sales dropped by 16.1%. 824 properties, 5.4% were sales of a newly built property.

https://www.plumplot.co.uk/Sheffield-property-transactions.html

XVGN · 19/12/2025 07:34

Papyrophile · 18/12/2025 20:04

Left behind areas like Redcar, Hartlepool, Sheffield, etc, etc.

I don't know anything about Redcar and Hartlepool, but Sheffield is one of the fastest markets in the UK right now. A friend's daughter is moving there and has had to move very swiftly to have an offer accepted on a 2-up 2-down terraced house in the area she wants.

Hands up. (Almost) Guilty as charged (until I saw plumplot stats). I looked at the first page of houseprices.io and saw a bit of red. But it was more than on the following pages.

I saw this case on the first page, where a house cost less than 21 years ago.

Will these price falls continue ?