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ED71 · 19/01/2025 16:56

DH and I are looking to move back into London due to work. Our two DS’s are now in their 20’s and at Uni, one at Central St Martins so he’d be moving with us. Elephant and Castle was a very different place when I lived in London - views on life there now, has it had a proper glow up, good roads, bad bits, any other thoughts. Looking to buy a 3 bed with a garden/outside space. The three dogs replace the DC !

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Lonelycrab · 21/01/2025 19:06

OP perhaps Brockley, Nunhead, quieter parts of Deptford? Some nice 3/4 beds there within budget and still easy enough to get into town.

The air quality and pollution will be an awful lot better than E&C which to be frank, will probably be appalling.

JW13 · 21/01/2025 19:25

Re Tulse Hill if you're the west dulwich side there are also trains from there in the morning to Blackfriars which are much less busy than the Tulse Hill ones. I often get those from Herne Hill rather than the thameslink/Tulse Hill ones. For St Pancras you can just hop off and cross the platform at Blackfriars to pick one up that's going up there.

I'd say Tulse Hill is a better option with dogs as you've got loads of parks in walking distance (Brockwell, Dulwich, Bel Air) - also nice houses in that price range and good transport options from Tulse Hill/West Dulwich plus buses to Brixton. I've lived in Tulse Hill reasonably recently and am now in Herne Hill which I would really recommend but prices are very high.

Having said that I spent a few years living in Borough and absolutely loved it. Elephant and castle is pretty gritty but I wouldn't necessarily write it off.

GRCP · 21/01/2025 19:29

Are there houses in E&C with a garden? Maybe on some side streets off of the Walworth Road or towards Kennington but they'd go for a couple of million each I reckon.
I think it's more for people who want to be central for work and want to live in a small flat. Or who are reliant on council accommodation.
I'd look.... well literally anywhere else to be honest.

Bumbers · 21/01/2025 19:32

6 mins walk from elephant and castle and you can be places like this. There are lots of lovely places near E&C. Some of the new developments also great.

Elephant and Castle
StrawberryPi · 21/01/2025 19:55

We live in Elephant and bloody LOVE it! So close to everything, we can both walk/cycle to work, or to town for restaurants/music/theatre, rarely bother with public transport. Burgess Park really close by and plenty of others easy access too. If we had £1m we'd stay here forever! Alas....

stardust777 · 21/01/2025 23:12

Around Nunhead station could be a good shout (e.g. Telegraph Hill).

Around Denmark Hill station too (Camberwell and East Dulwich)

Lonelycrab · 21/01/2025 23:20

You’ll need more than a mil for telegraph hill Grin

It is a lovely area though

stardust777 · 22/01/2025 08:46

The houses under £1m in Telegraph Hill look like projects:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155442053#/?channel=RES_BUY

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/156971597#/?channel=RES_BUY

This one is over budget but looks good:

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/148922942#/?channel=RES_BUY

LindorDoubleChoc · 22/01/2025 09:04

Of all the new building development scandals in London, what happened at E&C is the worst hands down! It is a scab on London's history, an embarrassment, an abomination.

FlatErica · 22/01/2025 09:11

I live in Borough and I shop round the Elephant sometimes. I used to live in Camberwell so I know the area pretty well. It's much better than it used to be and there are some decent houses round there. I wouldn't overlook it based on some of the comments on here from people who have never lived in the area. I wouldn't overlook because of some of the comments on here. I would rather live at Elephant than in Camberwell again, for example.

Brugmansia · 22/01/2025 15:09

I've lived near (E&C side of Kennington) for over 10 years and think it's great. I don't find Elephant and Castle particularly grotty these days. It's like a lot of places in London. There are pockets that are lovely right next to pockets that are less nice. The history of the recent development is shockingly bad and some of the new developments (particularly the flats) are not great. However, the street level development, e.g. Elephant Park and around the leisure centre, has made it feel nicer.

I get the area's not for everyone. One of the key things, as others have already said, is that it's really central. It's really well connected by public transport and also easy to walk into town. If being central is what you want then all the other options being proposed, such as Peckham, East Dulwich etc., really aren't alternatives. I'm from South London and know those places and have lived in a few. Though they are nice and all have their own attractions, they are nowhere near the same in terms of being central, both in terms of the feel of the places and the practicalities of living relatively centrally.

If you're looking in the area I'd look slightly wider, so also Kennington, Oval and Vauxhall and up to Borough. They all kind of run into each other anyway and are almost equally central. Within that there are loads of nice areas to live. Lots of period property mixed in with the newer developments. It's also definitely possible to get a 3 bedroom house for around £1m. There may not be loads, but I see them popping up on Rightmove regularly. Widening the area to neighbouring areas increases the likelihood of finding something within budget that meets your needs. Overall I'd say it is an area that is pretty good value considering how central it is.

Oceangrey · 01/06/2025 18:19

I also actually live here, unlike some posters who are years out of date.

Elephant itself is most flats it's true, but go a couple of streets back from the roundabout and there are period houses. Elephant Park is nice although not massive, there are really good restaurants and cafes. The centre is still heavy traffic though.

I would look at the closely surrounding areas. I'm in Kennington which is 10min walk to Elephant, but Kennington tube connects all the Northern Line branches so is amazing for transport. If you are in SE11 towards Westminster it's more expensive. If you are the other side of Kennington Park Road in SE17 then it's a fair bit cheaper as it's the Walworth side. But still lots of lovely period houses, Georgian and Edwardian.

Walworth Road has everything you need, food stores for every world cuisine and Kennington Cross plus Elephant have all the nicer places to get coffee and eat. Leisure centre with swimm pool at Elephant. Great parks too and it's a really nice mixed community here.

Today I walked to Borough for lunch, then Tate Modern, boat to Tate Britain and walked home again through some kind of Latin American festival in Vauxhall, can't beat it.

Oceangrey · 01/06/2025 18:20

Oh and I agree with all the issues on gentrification etc, but you're asking what it's like to live here rather than the history of the area.

efeslight · 01/06/2025 19:26

I also used to live there, about 25 years ago. Loved the Castello Italian restaurant and used to go to the old Coronet cinema, then things changed and Nandos appeared 😀
Interesting reading about the place, driven close by and it looks super busy now. Very central though

JenniferBooth · 04/01/2026 20:57

JenniferBooth · 20/01/2025 20:12

The Elephant and Castle neighbourhood is being physically, socially and ethnically transformed. This started with the demolition of the Heygate estate, a classic for stigmatised perceptions of council housing and the people who live in it. As the local 35% Campaign has meticulously documented, a succession of promises to Heygate residents were broken to arrive at a situation where 1,214 council homes were demolished, to be replaced with 2,704 new homes, of which only 82 (3%) are for social rent. The HA partner was London and Quadrant. To be eligible for the cheapest one-bedroom home built by them on the Heygate site, people needed a minimum household income of £57,500. The average household income in that part of Southwark is £24,324

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/01/hundreds-of-blackpool-families-to-be-evicted-in-mass-dispersion-of-vulnerable-people?fbclid=IwY2xjawPHrbhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeVh3hpd2dA9pXDCR8Z64LJ3bvbURbiQkfccgeoHT71lrOb3d9ML4ZTRIxZC8_aem_J4lO_dk-_FVTQ7PIzfGvWA

Hundreds of Blackpool families to be evicted in ‘mass dispersion’ of vulnerable people

Up to 400 homes face demolition under a £90m regeneration scheme that promises only 230 replacement properties

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jan/01/hundreds-of-blackpool-families-to-be-evicted-in-mass-dispersion-of-vulnerable-people?fbclid=IwY2xjawPHrbhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeVh3hpd2dA9pXDCR8Z64LJ3bvbURbiQkfccgeoHT71lrOb3d9ML4ZTRIxZC8_aem_J4lO_dk-_FVTQ7PIzfGvWA

echt · 04/01/2026 21:42

Lonelycrab · 20/01/2025 22:13

Has all the work been finished yet? I thought they were levelling the place and starting again.

It was home to the mighty pizza Castello many many years ago, does anyone remember that?

I remember it well, as I do all the places mentioned round the E&C.
The Pizzeria was favoured by Labour MPs in particular due to the party's HQ on Walworth Road.

Decorhate · 04/01/2026 21:47

I was reminiscing about Pizzeria Castello recently (ds was meeting friends for dinner somewhere in that area). Lived in Kennington before it got gentrified.

JenniferBooth · 04/01/2026 21:49

Papricat · 04/01/2026 21:18

Good.

Funny how those properties were good enough to lock down in

toomuchcrapeverywhere · 04/01/2026 22:30

@Oceangrey and I seem to be neighbours and I agree with everything that she has said. I’ve been here since 1990 and have seen a lot of changes. The Heygate estate was a disgrace. I also think you might be better off looking slightly away from the Elephant - Kennington, Borough, Brixton, Camberwell.

Zone4flaneur · 05/01/2026 08:36

I'm really fond of the Elephant area- did a post-grad at LCC and DH lived there for years. It's not dissimilar to other areas of London, and like the OP when the kids are off our hands we'd really want to move much more central. Love the person who suggested Streatham Hill could fulfil 'gritty' 😂 Burgess Park is fine now, I quite often take the kids in the summer. It is of course central London but you can walk everywhere and your transport costs would be zero.

But there are not loads of parks apart from Burgess for the dogs. I was going to suggest Camberwell (probably more housing stock that's not flats), Kennington or maybe Brixton? You'd have Brockwell Park then, or if you were nearer Denmark Hill (between Camberwell and Herne Hill) you'd have Brockwell, Ruskin parks and not miles away from Dulwich Woods. Ruskin Park has a great Sauna and there's the lido in Brockwell. The corner between Kennington and Camberwell has a lot of nice houses. Or you could look in Peckham, the bit between the Rye and Burgess Park. Peckham, Brixton and Camberwell have a similar 'proper London' vibe, with loads of great places to eat as well. Kennington is obviously very central but feels a bit less like it has a centre to me, and is more chi-chi.

Zone4flaneur · 05/01/2026 08:38

Oh, I would also have a look at what the local offer for autistic adults is with the different Boroughs. If there is something specific you need it would make sense to check you can get it.

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