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Opinion on buying a leasehold flat

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Mabsa · 23/11/2024 12:24

I am a First Time Buyer in the process of buying a leasehold flat in a 3 storey building. I am still waiting for all the searches and documents to be provided to me. However, I have noticed in the Fire Risk Assessment that the overall rating is Moderate (Moderate Harm and Medium Likelihood) which makes me nervous. I still haven't seen the EWS1 certificate, awaiting for it.

The report mentions: The external wall construction of the building does not appear to be of sufficiently low risk that it can be assessed visually as part of this Type 1 assessment. Parts of the front building façade has timber cladding. A specialist survey will be required.
Balcony approaches on first and second floors to rear of building appear to be constructed of non-combustible materials. There is some timber cladding to the front elevation

The building is owned by a Housing Association so this would be their responsability. However, I am worried about the potential impact that this could have if I decide in the future to sell the flat. What's your view on this? Anything I should be checking? Since I am a cash buyer, I didn't have to get a mortgage approved, hence my worry.

I am also not sure that a EWS1 certificate will be available as the building is only 3 storeys (picture attached)

Opinion on buying a leasehold flat
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SunQueen24 · 24/11/2024 09:26

worldwidetravel2017 · 24/11/2024 09:23

New properties tend to have way higher leases than that

I don’t know what you’re basing that on, but it simply isn’t true.

Obviously that’s a quick google but more googling will only confirm.

If it’s not already apparent this is quite literally my day job.

Opinion on buying a leasehold flat
SunQueen24 · 24/11/2024 09:27

And by “higher” you mean a longer term. I can tell from your terminology that you’re not wholly familiar with leases.

flyinghen · 24/11/2024 10:18

Mabsa · 23/11/2024 14:10

Thanks - I thought a lease over 120 years was healthy. Why do you think so? Interested in your views.

The service charge is around £1600 yearly and there's no ground rent. The freeholder is a housing association called Notting Hill Genesis, which is also something that worries me as their reviews are appaling...

Based on the reviews alone I would pull out tbh. Even if it meant having a sizeable down payment on somewhere else with a mortgage instead of cash.

Booface2024 · 24/11/2024 12:01

ultimately your solicitor should go through everything and you are right to be cautious with a leasehold as there’s more to consider but from my own experience they are not all the nightmares you hear of. Leasehold can be absolutely fine and offer affordable nice property options

as for the people saying buy a freehold even if it means in a less desirable area - that’s each to their own. I would never do that personally and would happily take a decent leasehold for preference of location any day. It’s personal choice. You’re asking all the right questions OP that’s all you can do an then make a decision

TheTidyBear · 25/11/2024 19:33

If the management company is ok and there's no issues with the fire safety it's fine

I used to live in a flat and I have a house now, things were far easier when I had the flat

I wouldn't for the life of me live in a worse area just to have a house

There are lots of advantages of flats, you don't have to spend time maintaining the place and if something goes wrong the cost is shared

It depends on your lifestyle, if you're a homebody that likes diy then a house would be better. But if you can't be bothered to crawl around your loft and check your gutters once in a while but dedicate time to your career then a flat works well.

Also flats are generally maintained over the years. Houses often have dodgy conservatories/extensions lots of hidden problems and costs, people not maintaining them properly and doing all sorts of bodge jobs. And they still cost money to repair, and you have to deal with dodgy tradespeople trying to rip you off when you want something done. Plus also your neighbours can be a real pain over shared boundaries and start extending things all over the place.

TheTidyBear · 25/11/2024 19:40

Just an addendum to the above quite a lot of the housing stock in this Country is not maintained well. Most people don't maintain them properly and are storing up expensive problems for themselves. You can't just not replace a roof when it needs replacing.

SunQueen24 · 25/11/2024 19:51

TheTidyBear · 25/11/2024 19:40

Just an addendum to the above quite a lot of the housing stock in this Country is not maintained well. Most people don't maintain them properly and are storing up expensive problems for themselves. You can't just not replace a roof when it needs replacing.

This is especially true of flats with a share of freehold IMO!

IMustDoMoreExercise · 25/11/2024 19:56

Mabsa · 23/11/2024 14:00

The lease is 170 years so a healthy one. However these questions make me wonder if I should withdraw from the process.

There has been a lot in the news in the last few days about high service charges, so be careful when buying a leasehold.

EducatingArti · 25/11/2024 20:08

TheTidyBear · 25/11/2024 19:33

If the management company is ok and there's no issues with the fire safety it's fine

I used to live in a flat and I have a house now, things were far easier when I had the flat

I wouldn't for the life of me live in a worse area just to have a house

There are lots of advantages of flats, you don't have to spend time maintaining the place and if something goes wrong the cost is shared

It depends on your lifestyle, if you're a homebody that likes diy then a house would be better. But if you can't be bothered to crawl around your loft and check your gutters once in a while but dedicate time to your career then a flat works well.

Also flats are generally maintained over the years. Houses often have dodgy conservatories/extensions lots of hidden problems and costs, people not maintaining them properly and doing all sorts of bodge jobs. And they still cost money to repair, and you have to deal with dodgy tradespeople trying to rip you off when you want something done. Plus also your neighbours can be a real pain over shared boundaries and start extending things all over the place.

Our lease says that external painting should be done every 3:years. It is 13 years and counting since it was last done!

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