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Help! Deep in to the buying/selling process and we’ve just found out about a huge housing development in the quaint village we were buying in!

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Pebble65 · 17/11/2024 19:17

I’ll start this off by explaining that we don’t necessarily WANT to move but due to schools, costs of remortgaging and aging parents we’ve felt we should sell up and move. Hence why we already had slight reluctance about moving house.

We accepted an offer on ours mid September and had an offer accepted on a house mid October. Since then the process has gone pretty fast and we’re being chased to name a completion date by our buyers. We wanted the searches and valuation done before we had a survey done as we had an inkling that the price had on the house we’re buying was a bit high. We also had some concerns about the local area.

Saying that, it’s a quaint village, lovely community with lots of events going on and access to excellent schools so we were pretty happy.

Anyway, we’ve just heard that there is a plan to build almost 600 homes in and around the village - many of them 1 bedroom houses, so not necessarily family homes.

This worries us a lot! It’s not what we were looking for and we have concerns that the schools/doctors etc won’t cope and it will affect the feel of the village. They are also planning to build close to the house at the end of the lane so the slice of countryside we loved will be gone. We wouldn’t have made an offer if we’d known this.

I guess we pull out and try to keep our buyers happy and reassured??! They’ve sold and have moved in with family and there is a specific reason that they want our house so I think it will take a lot for them to back out of the purchase, but I can’t guarantee that, obviously!

Any advice/ reassurance gratefully received!!

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PastaAndChill · 20/11/2024 09:18

GasPanic · 18/11/2024 16:06

Well people keep piling into the country and they need somewhere to live.

If it is a dealbreaker to you, then it is a dealbreaker to you.

Just bear in mind that these days lots of places are getting extra housing. And the costs of buying a place that is kept "quaint" for the privilige of the locals is likely to be £££££ more for that very reason.

So either you are willing or able to pay £££££ more to protect yourself against the menace of the proles. Or you become one.

People keep piling into the country and people keep having children. Both increase the population and need for housing. I'm very against all the huge new build developments going up and dread the day that no remote homes exist. I wish people would think about that before breeding.

MabelMaybe · 20/11/2024 09:19

@Pebble65 one bed houses would be starter homes, or for people downsizing after divorce / when the children have left home. They're not going to impact on school places.

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 09:24

Thanks everyone. We’ve actually just received more news which may have put the nail in the coffin. The lender has approved our request to port the mortgage but has actually undervalued the property even further so it’s now almost £18k under what was accepted.

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HoundsMamma · 20/11/2024 09:28

Good luck going forwards. But my advice is definitely don’t be afraid of considering short term rental in between. My husband had to semi talk me into it at the time because I had all the same worries as you, however in hindsight, it was the best thing we ever did to get the right house at a great price and much easier than I imagined. x

Nanny0gg · 20/11/2024 09:56

Pebble65 · 18/11/2024 06:42

Thanks everyone for the advice.

We’ve not been excited about the move but the house is nice and definitely the best we’d seen and at a good price. The school is also one of the best in the area.

If we bought the house we’d definitely be in the catchment for it. If we bought in one of the surrounding small villages, with all the planned development, there’s a chance the catchment would change and we would be out of catchment then.

The development I mentioned is a proposal at the moment and it’s going through local consultation (with everyone locally seeming to loudly protest against it). It didn’t show up in the searches because it doesn’t have planning permission but as the council is proposing it I’m guessing it won’t be long until it’s approved. We only found out about it through a FB post.

If I sound like I’m trying to convince myself to buy the house …I probably am. We looked at houses last night and there really isn’t a lot on the market at the moment and panic started to set in! I know we don’t want to live near all that development but I don’t know what we’re going to do.

My DD is in year 5 and so we have to move before school applications next year.

It's the same everywhere

I don't know how you'll avoid it

isthesolution · 20/11/2024 10:20

Rent in the school catchment area and then move out once the child starts school?

Be aware though that anywhere you buy might be near a new build development that doesn't have planning permission just yet.

Also in terms of the valuation - this isn't unusual with mortgage companies - the house is worth what someone is willing to pay.

HellsBalls · 20/11/2024 10:28

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 09:24

Thanks everyone. We’ve actually just received more news which may have put the nail in the coffin. The lender has approved our request to port the mortgage but has actually undervalued the property even further so it’s now almost £18k under what was accepted.

Well at least now you are not buying an overpriced house.

Imjustlikeyou2 · 20/11/2024 11:15

I still find inheritance tax a total piss take, those people have paid tax on the money already and 40% is so high!

Imjustlikeyou2 · 20/11/2024 11:15

Sorry wrong thread

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 11:44

It’s been an eventful morning! Our EA just called asking whether we can exchange contracts with the buyers next week!! We explained 4 times already that it won’t be before Christmas and we are actually thinking feb/march.
We explained about our issues with the onwards purchase and the EA started to push us to commit to moving out to the first week in January.

We agreed an offer under asking price with the condition we were in a chain, albeit a short one (their previous offer had been asking price and no chain). Is it unreasonable of me to think they should have to wait for a reasonable period of time for us to find another house? We only started the process just over a month ago!!

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snotathing · 20/11/2024 11:51

You might be better selling and moving into your parents' house while you decide what you want.

SheilaFentiman · 20/11/2024 12:00

I don’t think it’s unreasonable for your buyers to be pushing. They are currently living with family, who knows if that is stressful? Maybe there has been a falling out, or family putting them up are now expecting another guest, etc.

Of the two of you, if there is a nearby empty house you can use without signing a long term rental, you are in a better position to make a temporary move.

SheilaFentiman · 20/11/2024 12:04

In your shoes, I would start to look for rentals where you want to be and sell you current house, living in the empty house for a bit if needed. Once you are in the area, viewings are easier and you can do research on local development plans etc.

The drawback is losing the mortgage to port.

TaylorSwish · 20/11/2024 12:13

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 07:13

Thanks everyone.

We’re still pretty undecided. Our options are:

  1. proceed with the purchase and hope for the best.
  2. drop out and persuade our buyers to hold on, hoping something better comes on the market in the next few months.
  3. drop out and move in to my parent’s empty house which is down the road from us here and keep looking.
  4. drop out and rent there, get the kids in to schools and keep looking (although we have 2 cats, 2 Guinea pigs and a hamster- will landlords let to that many pets??)

I received an email from our lender over night with the porting offer but we’ve not heard the outcome of the valuation survey. Does anyone know if they still offer even if the the property is undervalued? Considering the original undervalue and the maximum we can contribute this year the LTV would be 70:30.

Ultimately, if there was a nice house in another area we would probably go for that instead.

Can you keep going with your house sale and move to your parents empty house?

Bluevelvetsofa · 20/11/2024 12:25

You’re really quite ambivalent about moving, from the tone of your first post. The potential new one isn’t a house you’ve fallen in love with and bearing in mind the issues recently raised with the valuation, I think you have two options.

One is to stay put and halt the process altogether.

The other is to rent nearer to where you think you want to be, look carefully round the area near the school you’re hoping for and choose the best you can afford in the place you prefer.

No one can future proof against further development, unless you’re in an area so built up that there simply isn’t room. Most local authorities are charged with building a certain number of properties, according to the local plan, so it’s inevitable that land will be lost.

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 12:36

My parents house is full of their things, only has two useable bedrooms (2 double beds and we have two children) and when they visit every month they expect us to vacate one of the rooms so they can stay in it. There’s also no office space and as we both work from home it’ll be a struggle. We could also lose our mortgage and have to pay a penalty fee. It’s a depressing prospect.
Part of the negotiation was that the buyers wouldn’t put us under pressure and we could take our time so I’m pissed off at the EA that they’re not pushing back and are joining in with piling on the pressure.

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Mumlaplomb · 20/11/2024 12:58

The only other option then OP is to find a rental in the school catchment which is available now or asap, and continue with your sale with a view to completing early in New Year. Or stay put and apply to the local schools?

SheilaFentiman · 20/11/2024 13:50

Part of the negotiation was that the buyers wouldn’t put us under pressure and we could take our time so I’m pissed off at the EA that they’re not pushing back and are joining in with piling on the pressure.

Ah, that’s not great. But again, their circumstances where they are staying might have changed. There’s also a difference between “had an accepted offer, waiting for searches, all progressing” and “back to the drawing board trying to find a property”

I expect the pressure, though badly applied, would have been held off if the answer was “searches all good, mortgage all good, just waiting to agree fixtures and fittings” ie definite progress

Floranan · 20/11/2024 14:00

I’ve got a funny feeling I know when you’re looking, does the village have a nice little thatch roof pub called the Royal Oak,

if it is, avoid like the plague. The schools are bad ( unless you’re thinking of the private one a couple of villages over. The village politics aren’t as friendly as they seem. We lived there just over 12 years and are glad we left, I have since heard about the new buildings and feel we dodged a bullet

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 20/11/2024 14:11

‘Reading the plan the aim seems to be to lower the average house price there by building cheap 1 and 2 bed new builds and heavily discounting them for lower income families who currently privately rent, and by offering further discounts for people who are in social housing. The 1 bed thing is odd to me too… ‘

Social engineering at its finest. You could rewrite this as ‘ the aim is to change the village from a classic British village to a replica of a Vibrant British inner City’. if that floats your boat, go ahead.

🤔

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 15:01

@Floranan no, thankfully I don’t think that’s it! It has two pubs but neither are the Royal Oak. The school is the best performing in the east side of the county.

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Werecat · 20/11/2024 15:07

MabelMaybe · 20/11/2024 09:19

@Pebble65 one bed houses would be starter homes, or for people downsizing after divorce / when the children have left home. They're not going to impact on school places.

Yep. There’s a lack of one beds outside of flats (which people don’t want due to the annual fees and feeling boxed in). More single homes are needed to enable bigger ones to be freed up. It only works if they’re nice though.

GasPanic · 20/11/2024 16:04

Pebble65 · 20/11/2024 12:36

My parents house is full of their things, only has two useable bedrooms (2 double beds and we have two children) and when they visit every month they expect us to vacate one of the rooms so they can stay in it. There’s also no office space and as we both work from home it’ll be a struggle. We could also lose our mortgage and have to pay a penalty fee. It’s a depressing prospect.
Part of the negotiation was that the buyers wouldn’t put us under pressure and we could take our time so I’m pissed off at the EA that they’re not pushing back and are joining in with piling on the pressure.

Your focus is on doing what is best/most convenient for you.

Your sellers/buyers focus will be on doing what is most convenient for them.

Estate agents are nominally working for the seller of the house they are marketing. But of course they are most interested in making sure they get their commission, which will not happen if a sale collapses. Generally the longer the sales process takes, the more likelyhood it will collapse.

Pebble65 · 24/11/2024 12:01

Just as an update, the valuation came back from the lender’s survey and they’ve valued it even lower. We told the EA and made a new offer and after a couple of days of waiting for a response got a fairly aggressive call from the EA arguing that they didn’t agree with either survey.

The EA referred to another, almost identical property which he claimed was now worth £40k above our offer as evidence that that survey was wrong. I know it’s not to be completely reliable but Zoopla says it’s actually predicted to be worth £20k less!

Rather than come back with a counter offer the EA asked if we’d split the difference and then he could suggest that to his client. I’m not keen on bringing our offer up without some indication they are willing to negotiate.

We’re now frantically looking for other houses- a very stressful weekend!

We’ll view some next weekend but they all seem to have an issue (busy main road, no office (we work from home)) etc.

With young children it feels risky to walk away from this house with nothing else in the pipeline but during some reflection I think we both agree that although the current house is nice, if there had been more choice we probably wouldn’t have gone for it. There were a couple of things tipping things in its favour and it seemed the sensible choice but now with the development and the valuation the disadvantages and compromises seem to be outweighing the advantages for us.

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LindaDawn · 24/11/2024 12:49

I wouldn’t get too hung up on the valuation unless it’s was out by a big % of the house price and you are getting high loan to value mortgage although I get it’s easy for me too say that. You did in an earlier post say its on at a good price and the best you have seen! Also the housing development is just a proposal at the moment. It’s sounds like this is not the house for you.