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Subsidence

34 replies

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 19:55

Hello All,

Can you advise if this looks like subsidence. This is under 1 of our windows.

Appreciate your help.

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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 02/11/2024 21:29

Is there a crack on the outside wall as well? It wouldn't just be internal

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 21:33

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 02/11/2024 21:29

Is there a crack on the outside wall as well? It wouldn't just be internal

No cracks on outside wall. The house has been empty for past 2 years. No other crack's anywhere inside the house.

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ACynicalDad · 02/11/2024 21:34

I was told only worry if you can push a pound coin in, if you can't and it's just internal it could well be the earth under it drying out in the summer and swelling with water again.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 02/11/2024 21:57

Look at that porch though 😬

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 21:58

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 02/11/2024 21:57

Look at that porch though 😬

Yes will be replacing that. It is hanging by a miracle :)

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LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 02/11/2024 22:03

Please bear in mind that if it's been neglected there will be hidden things.

I've got windows that won't open and some that won't lock. Also had to replace the back gate and the ancient loft ladder...!

BookishType · 02/11/2024 22:04

Subsidence cracks are typically diagonal, wider at the top than the bottom and visible on exterior as well as interior. They are usually seen at weak spots like window and door openings.

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 22:04

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 02/11/2024 22:03

Please bear in mind that if it's been neglected there will be hidden things.

I've got windows that won't open and some that won't lock. Also had to replace the back gate and the ancient loft ladder...!

Yes I completely understand. The windows are getting replaced, so is the door, porch and the date.

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Tel12 · 02/11/2024 22:06

Probably not, but a surveyor is the person who can tell you for sure.

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 02/11/2024 22:27

You need a surveyor. It's a pretty deep crack.

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 22:27

boulevardofbrokendreamss · 02/11/2024 22:27

You need a surveyor. It's a pretty deep crack.

Yes awaiting survey results,

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GladAllOver · 02/11/2024 22:32

Is there an outside crack above the upstairs window too? That would confirm subsidence.

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 22:32

Just to add, the property had planning permission approved 2 years ago for a large extension. Would the planning be approved without a structural survey.

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HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 22:40

GladAllOver · 02/11/2024 22:32

Is there an outside crack above the upstairs window too? That would confirm subsidence.

As you see no crack but the window and porch is in bad shape.

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GladAllOver · 02/11/2024 23:07

I can't see above the window in the picture?

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 23:11

GladAllOver · 02/11/2024 23:07

I can't see above the window in the picture?

Attaching a new pic.

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HellsBalls · 02/11/2024 23:12

How old is that house? The porch indicates it’s not old, but the brickwork shows it to be 9” solid, judging by the header courses.

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 23:14

HellsBalls · 02/11/2024 23:12

How old is that house? The porch indicates it’s not old, but the brickwork shows it to be 9” solid, judging by the header courses.

It was built in 1929.

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HellsBalls · 02/11/2024 23:17

If the crack is above the door/under the window I would not worry about it.
Has the house been repointed? It would appear so.

GladAllOver · 02/11/2024 23:18

That new pic is encouraging. You'd expect so see a gap at the top as well if there was serious subsidence.

HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 23:20

HellsBalls · 02/11/2024 23:17

If the crack is above the door/under the window I would not worry about it.
Has the house been repointed? It would appear so.

Yes the crack is above the door below the window inside of the property only. I don't believe it was repointed,

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HellsBalls · 02/11/2024 23:26

What about a close up picture of the brickwork tomorrow? Is it a cavity wall? The brickwork would indicate not.
To repair, I’d take pictures first with a ruler for precision, then chop it out wider with a chisel, then fill it with a quality filler, sand then fill once more, and paint.

Crispynoodle · 02/11/2024 23:26

We investigated a crack in one of our bedrooms the insurer sent someone around to measure any movement. Even though it was such a tiny bit of moving the insurance paid to have someone underpin that complete side of our house

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HappinessNow · 02/11/2024 22:32

Just to add, the property had planning permission approved 2 years ago for a large extension. Would the planning be approved without a structural survey.

Yes, PP is not dependent on the condition of the building, it only addresses whether the change to the building is permissible within planning law and local policy.

garlictwist · 03/11/2024 05:13

We have cracks like that all over our house. The surveyor said is just general movement that houses have and nothing to worry about.