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LL installed new kitchen

184 replies

Casperthefriendlygh · 05/10/2024 22:04

We experienced significant disruption despite the promise of no 'lack of function':

  • 3 days no oven, 3 days no hob
  • 6 days no dishwasher, 6 days no washing machine
  • 9 days no sink, 9 days of high noise
  • 14 days of reduced living space due to storage
  • This has led to health risks, unlivable conditions, and a breach of the Homes (Fitness for Human Habitation) Act 2018, with issues like damp, drainage problems, and difficulty maintaining sanitation.
OP posts:
NewFriendlyLadybird · 06/10/2024 14:42

mathanxiety · 06/10/2024 04:41

The landlord has increased the value of her property and put her tenants to considerable inconvenience while she did so.

A replacement secondhand kitchen is not going to increase the value of the property. It may, however, now that it’s been fitted, make life nicer and easier for the tenants. Certainly nicer than if the fix had been bodged.

YellowAsteroid · 06/10/2024 14:55

Yes they are entitled to quiet enjoyment, but they also have to allow essential repairs. Leaving a leak would cause huge damage to both OPs property and potentially others if it's a flat.

Indeed. The landlord could have just left it. @Casperthefriendlygh has complained about the damp but is now complaining about the LL fixing it.

The OP seems to be a bit of a grifter in this respect.

redboxer321 · 06/10/2024 15:58

Doggymummar · 06/10/2024 14:17

I'm a renter and we lived here though a rewire. It's not your place you have to suck it up.

I imagine this was done due to EICR legislation. The landlord would have had to do it in order to comply with their legal obligations. Pretty awful for a tenants but unlikely to have been the landlord's choice.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/10/2024 15:59

redboxer321 · 06/10/2024 09:30

What would you have done @Mummyoflittledragon?

If, as far as you were aware, the kitchen was in reasonable shape when the tenants moved in (we don't know how long they have been there) and at some point during the tenancy, it became clear that the kitchen needed to be replaced in order to make it habitable and meet legal requirements with regards to mould.
It's not ideal for tenants to have remedial work done but what is the solution?

I would have ensured the tenants had functionality as agreed. Or I would have moved the tenants to temporary accommodation, which I have done as per a previous post. If changing a bathroom for example, a tenant must have a working toilet at all times. The sink unit could have been the last thing to remove and the first to put back or they could have rigged up a temporary sink as promised.

Mummyoflittledragon · 06/10/2024 16:01

idrinkandknowthings · 06/10/2024 09:46

It wasn't done on a whim though was it? I mean the LL could just let the OP live in a shithole, doing nothing about repairs and leaving the leaking washing machine to damage even more of the property or she could have done what was needed, improved the kitchen meaning the OP & her flat mates had to live in minimal discomfort for a fortnight. When did people become so outrageously pappy.

This wasn’t minimal discomfort. They could have rigged up a temporary sink solution as promised.

idrinkandknowthings · 06/10/2024 16:24

This wasn’t minimal discomfort. They could have rigged up a temporary sink solution as promised.

@Mummyoflittledragon

It absolutely is minimal discomfort. I know, because I have lived with worse, for longer, during my own kitchen refit. It's slightly inconvenient for a short space of time and in no way does it cause such distress.

ButtSurgery · 06/10/2024 16:53

Surely they had a sink available in the bathroom for water and washing up? A shower or bath and toilet to tip things away? No sink in the kitchen when they are dealing with a leak isn't a shock.

NewGreenDuck · 06/10/2024 17:11

Do what the rest of us do, wash up in the bath or bathroom sink! For goodness sake, can people not manage for a few days in order to get a repair sorted?

AndyPandyismyhero · 06/10/2024 20:44

So OP reported a leak. LL could only get it repaired by removing a significant part of the kitchen and chose to replace the kitchen rather than leave damp damaged cupboards etc in situ. I'm sure if LL had chosen to leave the damp cupboards in place, OP would then have complained about the smeil and the mould, as well as the health implications That's not even factoring in the time it would have taken for the cupboards etc to dry sufficiently to be put back in place. I don't think it matters that the replacement kitchen cabinets are second hand - I've read several threads on here where people have purchased second hand kitchens, rather than new.
I think two weeks to fit is fine. We had our kitchen refitted this year and it took three weeks. The room was completely gutted- new floor, ceiling, wall boards, plastering, plumbing and electrics relocated etc. We had all new cupboards but went with the factory built option, rather than flat pack and that, coupled with new appliances meant we couldn't into our dining room. We had our microwave and kettle in the living room and yes, we had to wash up in the bath, though we did buy disposable plates, so only cutlery and cups needed to be washed. Yes, it was a pain in a way but it had to be done so we just got on with it. It sounds as though you are determined for your LL to be in the wrong, but since you turned down the air fryer you were offered, I think you weren't really bothered apart from seeing an opportunity to make some money.

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