If you're selling are you leaving white goods?

[Shesshinysheila]

We're leaving everything for our buyers except the tumble dryer. Nothing is particularly new so we're not charging them. This seems sensible since other than the washing machine most items wouldnt fit in the new place. Ie we have a range cooker and the new place has a regular one, we have an American style fridge and new place has a single fridge.
The people we're buying from however have decided to strip out all their white goods even though the house they're moving to has everything I think. I'm obviously not 100% on this but I know they're moving to a massive mansion whose owners are downsizing into what was their holiday home. So seems unlikely they'd be taking everything.
I think they're just doing it to be dicks if I'm honest because we didn't want to buy their 22 year old cooker from them which they kindly offered to sell us for £450!
I really hope they struggle to sell it (which I reckon they will) and end up with a PITA load of kitchen white goods stood in their new lounge for weeks after they've moved. Is that mean? 😂

We left everything that was fitted/ integrated into the kitchen, fridge freezer/ oven/ microwave and dishwasher. These were all 3yrs old when we left.

We took items that were just plugged in, in our garage. (New-ish )10kg Washing machine/ old Tumble dryer and tall secondary freezer. Good job too as the integrated washing machine in our new home stunk and then failed within 6 months of us being in.

You are supposed to take things that aren't integrated unless you arrange it with the buyers.

You can't just leave a fridge because it won't fit in your new place any more than you can leave bags of rubbish.

We're not leaving it JUST because it won't fit. The buyers asked if we'd be happy to leave or sell anything because they are FTB and need the lot. We agreed

We left our washing machine for our buyers as it was an awkward space and it had been hard finding something to fit.

Our seller gave us her washing machine and I wish we’d checked inside it as it was disgusting and unusable. Luckily John Lewis took it away for free when they delivered our new one.

If we ever move again I’m only offering to leave white goods if we buy somewhere with integrated ones, as I love my Bosch fridge freezer and washing machine.

Are they integrated in the house you’re buying? If not integrated then it’s not normal to leave them, unless specifically agreed. Just because you agreed to leave yours for your buyer doesn’t mean they have to leave theirs for you.

They might still be dicks of course.

We only took our washing machine and tumble dryer as everything else was integrated. This is pretty standard unless buyer asks you to leave things or buys them from you,

Same goes for curtains, can take unless specified they want them and you agree.

I did the last time specify I was taking a couple of light fittings (because I loved them and they were really expensive so be when I bought them). It’s written into the contract and buyer agreed. Just got electrician to remove them and put up ceiling rose and but in new bulb and basic shades.

I wouldn’t leave white goods unless the buyer specifically requested it. It’s not the normal thing to do as far as I’m aware. I will still need my fridge and washer in my next house

Edit to add, if no prior agreement had been made about them, I’d be pretty pissed off if the previous owner left their stuff. I don’t need the hassle and expense of dumping someone else’s fridge.
YABU to assume that you should just be left with someone else’s belongings. Maybe they need them in staff quarters.

Massive mansion, seriously. Who still uses those words.

i leave the white goods, but they are entitled to take them, you’re not entitled to have them.

We left the range cooker. Our new house has a built in oven and hob so we had no use for it and the buyers were happy to keep it. We didn’t ask for any extra money for it. We took everything else.

I realise I'm not "entitled" to them. And I'm not that bothered really, because it will be nice to have new stuff. It just seems like they're only doing it BECAUSE we didn't want to buy their really really old cooker for slightly more than half what they paid 22 years ago (they sent us the receipt)
And if they're only doing it to be dicks (which seems likely) then I hope they're stuck with it all for ages after they move.

Unless white goods are integrated, it's personal choice whether a seller wants to leave them on not, but it has to be stated on the relevant form so the buyer knows the situation (& there is an option on the form to say if the item is for sale and at what price).

It's the same with curtains but it seems that these days most people just leave them because they won't fit in the new property anyway. But a plug in fridge, freezer, washing machine etc - they may be needed in the new home.

They may just be unrealistic rather than being dicks @Shesshinysheila and not realise that second hand items don't sell for half the new price, but generally for peanuts.

I have to be honest, for someone not that bothered you come across as extremely bothered indeed. It’s their stuff, they can take it if you don’t want it. Sell it on or give it to someone else, and if you’re excited about getting new stuff crack on.

Or they might not be doing it to be dicks, but because you said "no" to them, they think you don't want them...
Either because you are intending to bring your own or because you want to buy new, so they are abiding by the terms of the sale (ie the f&f form), and your wishes, by removing them.

Their price might be unrealistic. Or higher than you think they're worth, but someone else might think it's worth it for the convenience of having a fully kitted out kitchen.

We left everything as it was integrated, apart from the American fridge-freezer. That was less than a year old, and we gave the buyers first refusal to buy it, which they did.

Our sellers included the dishwasher and oven, but also sold us the friede-freezer, which was a premium brand and the only one that nearly fit the space.

Yeah fair enough. I guess some people are just pretty out of touch.

Yup - I must admit I was surprised to find when getting rid of a load of my Dad's old but very good quality furniture that it had almost zero value so I imagine the same is true of old cookers etc.

A 22 year old cooker I expect they will end up paying someone to dispose of.

We bought at the height of the market and paid over the asking price. Our vendors wanted an extra £550 on top for white goods, Ikea mirrors and some crappy art prints and a key holder. We paid as naive buyers as I didn't want anything in the house to change. They moved into a £1.8 million mansion a couple of towns down from us. The man was a b(w)anker. Cheapskates.

Both times I’ve sold they were FTB’s so I left them to help them out with their agreement

It’s perfectly normal to take them, the person we bought off took most of theirs. They offered you something and you didn’t want it so they probably assumed you had all the stuff you wanted. I don’t think they are being ‘dicks’, they are unlike to be taking out of spite as it’s a hassle. They may have promised them to a family member or friend (my parents friend kindly gave us their washing machine when they moved). Fridges can be used a second fridge in an outbuilding and you said they are moving to a bigger house. They may be creating an annex for renting or a family member.

I think you should let it go and look forward to getting your new house!

I'm taking all mine - it's all good stuff that I paid a lot of money for and chose because it suits my needs. There's integrated appliances in the place I'm buying but the kitchen is quite shitty and those appliances will be far older and crapper than the ones I'm bringing with me. Can't see any reason why I would just gift thousands of pounds worth of appliances with my house!

Our seller left all white goods for free as they had integrated ones in their new place. We wouldn't have paid for them, they're fine but quite old. When we sold our flat we asked for some money for the white goods as they were all quite new, buyer was happy to pay.

The house we bought had fully integrated (and tiny) separate fridge and freezer and it looked like the kitchen was built around the dishwasher (tiny) and washing machine (standard size). Oven and hob also integrated. No extra cost to us. The people we bought form also left a lawnmower.

We left the fridge freezer, washing machine and almost brand new dishwasher - we couldn't have fit them in the new house and didn't need then as everything was already there. Our buyers were happy for us to leave them.

It was all done by agreement and written into the contracts though. We didn't just leave them and not let them know.

The people we bought from removed a lot of things they offered to sell us, that we didn't particularly want. E.g blinds. We later found out they'd given much of it to the neighbours, who may have been able to use it as they have the "same" house. The neighbours gave the useful bits to us anyway 😆

TBF I've always understood that only integrated appliances go with the house.

We're taking all plug in appliances apart from the range cooker. It's 15 years old, we're not charging for it.

New house has all integrated appliances but found out on the fixtures and fittings form that none are in working order! New kitchen needed! Putting all the utilities in the garage until the new kitchen is in.

I'd be pretty annoyed if a load of white goods were left for us to dispose of. If all agreed in contracts, no problem.

Good luck!