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What part of Lancashire?

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Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 19/07/2024 19:32

We are planning on relocating to Lancashire, but don’t know which part.
We were swaying towards Preston, but after visiting we felt unsure because I didn’t like the city centre layout - it felt too easy to be run over, and it seemed a bit too lively on a Saturday!
We have heard only negative things about Burnley and Blackburn (can anyone confirm or deny?). We considered Chorley, but unsure. Lancaster looks lovely, but the grammar school system there has put us off as our eldest will already be Y7.
Obviously actually living in these places would be very different to visiting though anyway, so it would be good to hear opinions.
Also, if anyone could suggest other places that might be suitable that would be appreciated.

Our criteria is:

budget: 190k max

We need good public transport

somewhere that has a train station.

amenities - hospital vital, things for the DC to do, cinema, parks, supermarkets nearby

WFH so jobs not a problem.

DC in primary and secondary school.

Somewhere friendly - community feel, if that still exists.

Can anyone give me some advice?

Thanks!

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WhatMothersDo22 · 29/09/2024 21:21

To give you a better idea — I live in south of Leyland - I walk 10 mins from my house over motorway bridge and i’m in Buckshaw Village. To do this I would walk past Balshaws high school (local ex-grammar CofE) so depending on where you lived in Buckshaw, you’d be potentially in walking distance of one high school. But Buckshaw is sprawling — basically built on land between Leyland and Chorley. There’s honestly nothing wrong with Leyland either; I’ve seen that some posters are not keen, but the amount of community events we have, the number of businesses opening etc. I do think are testament to it. I live 5 minutes from Worden park, Runshaw college, one of Lancashire’s biggest sixth form colleges, a 20 mins walk to train station , on a bus route to Preston and within 10 mins walk of town centre with multiple coffee shops etc. There was the Taste of Leyland food festival last weekend, which saw town centre packed and buzzing. I honestly don’t use my car in Leyland as can walk everywhere.

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 01/10/2024 05:57

@WhatMothersDo22 Thanks for that. I didn’t realise Leyland and Buckshaw Village were so close.

I’m finding this decision so difficult. If it wasn’t for the complication of the schools it would be so much easier.

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Hoopper · 01/10/2024 09:17

Schools should be your start point.

You need somewhere very good where your DCs will be supported with their transition and has a strong postive welcoming community - so that their education is not disrupted in the process.

Once you find the school - rent in catchment for a year to get the lay of the land and then look to buy in the broader area once you are there and will have insider info and can visit areas at different times of the day and week.

QueenBakingBee · 01/10/2024 09:43

Kitkat1523 · 19/07/2024 20:19

Ormskirk( a market town) ….close to M58 motorway….train links to Preston and liverpool

I agree with this! I'm in a village nearby and its got everything you need :)

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 01/10/2024 09:45

@Hoopper Is there much chance of me realistically getting a catchment area school if I do that? Where I currently live the good schools are full with waiting lists, so if someone were to move here they would get the worst school in the town wherever they lived. Is that the same in Lancashire?

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Hoopper · 01/10/2024 10:33

I have no idea what the waiting lists are of individual schools in Lancashire - and what the catchment and application criteria are - thats the detailed research IMHO you should prioritise over housing - ie put the horse before the cart etc.

For my family any move would be to enhance the prospects of my DC - and a supportive, stable educational environment is critical where they can grow and achieve their potential. It would not necessarily be the school with the best results but one that indicated the best added value and were the best fit for my DCs specific needs.

Lunaloud · 01/10/2024 12:43

I’m from Preston, like others I couldn’t wait to get out of it when I was younger, not necessarily because of the town (as it was then). I do enjoy visiting and feel very defensive over the place when it’s put down. Most of my family are still there and there are some lovely areas, sadly though a lot of it looks run down which gives an impression a lot of it is rough.

Back in the 80/90s I went to school in Longridge, it was very easy to get to and lot of kids did the journey, as with other non central schools. My understanding is it’s still an easy commute. I’m only guessing but I assume most schools will have some form of transport that leaves from the central bus station.

You mentioned Lytham/St Anne’s, there are rough spots everywhere you go. Both have had some teen antisocial behaviour but nothing major, the usual board teenage stuff you get in most places.

I like both Lytham and St Anne’s, I’d move there in a flash if I could, we considered it recently, but decided to stay put. We are in Kirkham, we would have to double or triple the cost of our house to get the same kind of house/space we have.

Kirkham has a nice feel overall, it’s very community orientated, got a new town centre after a lot of investment. The local high school Carr Hill has a reputation but apparently a new head determined to turn it around, he's convinced a few parents I know to send their DCs there and I already know a lot of good families who send their DCs there. Mine go to school in Lytham, there are dedicated school buses that the children can catch or easy public transport, mine catch the public bus and take the short 5 min walk to school. The train is also an option.

The train from Kitkham goes straight to Manchester Airport, Preston & Blackpool. I like it as it’s easy to go places. I’ve got a weekend in Glasgow coming up with my dd, it’s 15/20 min to Preston then change for Glasgow which is just over 2 hrs away. My DH regularly has to do meeting in London so catches the train.

One thing you need to be mindful of is there are new builds everywhere but no accommodation has been put in place for schools and medical needs. Lots of GPs are overwhelmed and I don’t know anyone who has been able to find a nhs dentist in Preston, or some of the more densely populated areas. I recently found a good private dentist in St Anne’s after needing emergency treatment, after I signed privately they took my DCs on as nhs patients.

i forgot to add. Look at the schools you want the most, look at the catchment and enrolment criteria then try getting your primary aged children into a feeder school if you can. I know it will be harder for your eldest but they might have a better chance getting in if they have siblings in the school.

My DCs school St Bedes in Lytham takes children from 5 surrounding feeder schools 1in Kirkham, 1 in Medlar-with-Wesham 1 in Warton/Freckleton, 1 in Lytham and 1 in St Annes. Two thirds of places are taken up with applicants from the feeder schools, even after Catholics are prioritised they have apparently never had to turn down a child from a feeder school.

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 01/10/2024 15:52

@Lunaloud Thank you so much for your reply! It’s really helpful.
People mentioned some part of St Anne’s are rough? How rough would you say it is? We would be at the bottom end of the price range of houses. Would it be safe living in those areas or are they no-go areas?

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BasiliskStare · 01/10/2024 20:13

@Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles I think about 5 years ago DB and DSIL bought a nice house in St Annes. It Is a classic 1930s semi and they have done work on it over time but it was £175k I think ( so within your budget but it did need some work. . I would struggle to think of a rough area in Lytham but they were priced out of that. DSIL looked carefully at areas ( and there aren't too many ) which she would not like in St Annes but just because she was cautious about DSS occupied or being too near St Anne's square where there are pubs and wanted to be on a quieter road. But their house is very nice , big garden , lovely neighbours so I would not worry about St Annes.

I don't think Lytham StAnne's has any no go areas - It's not really ( in my recollection ) that sort of a place but I am happy to be corrected by those with more up to date knowledge. I would definitely explore it.

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 01/10/2024 20:49

@BasiliskStare Thanks for the reply. I really liked St Anne’s when we visited and it felt safe to me, but there was mention on this thread that some areas were rougher. I just don’t want to jump from the frying pan into the fire, but your reply is very reassuring.

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LittleStranger · 01/10/2024 21:30

There really aren't any no-go areas in St Annes.

QueenOfHiraeth · 01/10/2024 22:43

Most of St Annes is fine. There is one ex-council estate which had a reputation as rough but I don't know if it still is (it's the one bounded by Blackpool Road North, Kilnhouse Lane and the airport). I would also avoid the area really close to the town centre and St Albans Rd as many of the bigger, old houses are HMOs. None are like warzones though
There's a few on here in your price range, more if you look up to 200k and put an offer in
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E22797&minBedrooms=3&maxPrice=190000&propertyTypes=detached%2Csemi-detached%2Cterraced&mustHave=&dontShow=&furnishTypes=&keywords=

BasiliskStare · 01/10/2024 22:46

@Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles I have Pmed you if it helpes about roads in St Annes

floridaidea · 01/10/2024 23:27

I'd second St Anne's and don't think there are any rough bits. What about Euxton OP?No one has mentioned it but that is a nice place to live. Also Ormskirk is a,nice safe place to live with decent transport and schools.

Lunaloud · 02/10/2024 17:58

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 01/10/2024 15:52

@Lunaloud Thank you so much for your reply! It’s really helpful.
People mentioned some part of St Anne’s are rough? How rough would you say it is? We would be at the bottom end of the price range of houses. Would it be safe living in those areas or are they no-go areas?

I’m not sure of “rough” areas as such. There are areas that don’t look as leafy as others but I’m no good on remembering names of streets etc.. I’m guessing these are more council or HA places which you get everywhere. I think it’s more you have places that are considered not as nice as others. I have friends with children in primary schools in Lytham who say the parents are extremely wealthy, throw extravagant kids parties, young children with ridiculous designer bags, then you get those who can’t afford to live like that, are they rough or just not rich???

Looks like basilisk stare can give you more in-depth details x

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