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Moving to Amersham

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GreatWestRoad · 08/11/2022 15:35

My husband and I are planning to move to Amersham within the next year (hopefully!). We currently live in west London and have a baby and a toddler (one girl, one boy).

We will both have to commute into London for work. I can work 2/3 days a week from home, but my husband will need to commute most days.

We have seen quite a few houses but nothing has been quite right so far and also the current market situation has made us a bit cautious. We originally had a budget of absolute max £2m (but looking for properties more around £1.75m), but given where mortgage rates now are we think we are going to have to look more around £1.5m - £1.75m.

We would like to have the future option of sending the children to grammar school if they pass the 11+, so would like to be in catchment of the Challoners schools.

We have visited The Beacon and really liked it and have also heard good things about Heatherton. However, I know there are also some good state primary schools in the area.

I’m basically looking for some advice from others who live in the area or know it well as to good areas / streets to look. Location is probably the most important thing as we don’t want to be making our lives a nightmare in terms of doing school runs on top of commutes.

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Tiktok81 · 21/08/2023 11:57

@Hilsvision can you tell me more about the boys school. My DD is at DCHS but wants to do medicine and has an offer for the boys school for 6th form. I thought historically many of the more ‘science girls’ made that move. I think about a dozen went last year alone.
You’ve slightly worried me - although I know my DD will make her own decision regardless. If you’ve got any more detailed information ….
thanks

AmershamLooker · 21/08/2023 12:38

Agree with you completely.

hlb246 · 21/08/2023 12:55

Which is the best nursery in the amersham area please. Wanting to get on waiting lists ahead of our move

Hilsvision · 21/08/2023 17:11

Tiktok81 · 21/08/2023 11:57

@Hilsvision can you tell me more about the boys school. My DD is at DCHS but wants to do medicine and has an offer for the boys school for 6th form. I thought historically many of the more ‘science girls’ made that move. I think about a dozen went last year alone.
You’ve slightly worried me - although I know my DD will make her own decision regardless. If you’ve got any more detailed information ….
thanks

I was horrified by the number of children caught with drugs in the school last school year and the ages of some of them. Also, there being no one strike and you’re out rule.

There were multiple incidents of theft from the changing rooms, as well as vaping in the loos to the point they couldn’t be used. The solution to this is simple: assign a prefect to monitor the loo blocks at break, ensuring that children can actually use the facilities. Lock the changing rooms during lesson time.

I have to admit, I was incredibly naive; I believed my kids were in a drug-free, theft-free, vaping-free zone at school. Outside the school gates it’s hard to control. In school, it seems like a free for all. The removal of lockers at Amersham School addressed some of the issues.

If I were in charge of the school, I would conduct daily spot checks on lockers, bags and blazers, with parents having the option to opt out their children. Why would you? Personally, I’m more than willing for my children’s belongings to be searched for drugs and stolen property.

The rest of the issues trickle down from this.

Tiktok81 · 22/08/2023 12:04

Hilsvision · 21/08/2023 17:11

I was horrified by the number of children caught with drugs in the school last school year and the ages of some of them. Also, there being no one strike and you’re out rule.

There were multiple incidents of theft from the changing rooms, as well as vaping in the loos to the point they couldn’t be used. The solution to this is simple: assign a prefect to monitor the loo blocks at break, ensuring that children can actually use the facilities. Lock the changing rooms during lesson time.

I have to admit, I was incredibly naive; I believed my kids were in a drug-free, theft-free, vaping-free zone at school. Outside the school gates it’s hard to control. In school, it seems like a free for all. The removal of lockers at Amersham School addressed some of the issues.

If I were in charge of the school, I would conduct daily spot checks on lockers, bags and blazers, with parents having the option to opt out their children. Why would you? Personally, I’m more than willing for my children’s belongings to be searched for drugs and stolen property.

The rest of the issues trickle down from this.

Thanks. I don’t think there’s such a vaping culture in the girls school - although to be honest I’ve not ever asked my DD that specific question.
Hopefully in the 6th form they take their studies seriously or do you think that the girls who go from the girls to boys school are moving based on historic performance rather than being aware of the current situation.

on the face of it 64% A-B is good , but it is a big drop on 2019.

Hilsvision · 22/08/2023 14:34

Tiktok81 · 22/08/2023 12:04

Thanks. I don’t think there’s such a vaping culture in the girls school - although to be honest I’ve not ever asked my DD that specific question.
Hopefully in the 6th form they take their studies seriously or do you think that the girls who go from the girls to boys school are moving based on historic performance rather than being aware of the current situation.

on the face of it 64% A-B is good , but it is a big drop on 2019.

Before all else, I will say the boys seem to have utmost respect for the head of years 10 and 11 and the head of sixth form and look to them for leadership. Therefore, if your daughter is a self starter, I’m sure she will do well. Your best bet is for her to talk to any who have just finished the A levels she’s looking to take.

Personally, I believe the school has been riding on its historic reputation for a long time. Anyone who had children at the school while Dr Fenton was head say there is a gaping difference in the school, the teaching, behaviour and attainment.

He left 6/7 years ago, so the school has now turned over a “generation of boys” under the new head. He was promoted from within, had not previously been a head or taught in a school other than DCGS. Is this significant? Possibly.

Running a school, like any organisation, requires strong people and organisational management skills. It requires experience of different organisational cultures and demographics so best practices can be pooled and built on. As is often the case, being excellent in a specialist role doesn’t make a person a great manager or leader. In the case of a school, this is the pupils and teachers and loosely parents. I’m not convinced he’s the most inspiring head. Certainly not as a parent.

I’m of the opinion that Covid “saved” the school from the inevitable grade drops, but not the boys from significant holes in their critical learning. Maths and the sciences stand out for me as subjects that were hit hard and nothing has been done subsequently to build these back up.

My own son and his year group were just left to rot by the school through lockdown. We do jobs that mean we couldn’t be on hand to support his learning. Yes, we can beat ourselves up about this, but I’m sure we weren’t alone.

According to the boys I know, subject outcomes can vary greatly depending on the teacher allocated. This shouldn’t be the so. It would be interesting to see grade analysis by subjects and teachers over the past 6/7 years.

However, it’s the lack of pastoral care in the school that concerns me most. This really showed up through and after lockdown. The attitudes of some of the teachers has shocked me too. Respect is gained. If you don’t gain the respect of teenagers, there is going to be trouble. I don’t know if all I hear from kids about goings on in the school are true, but if they are, I’m bemused as to why the adults don’t stamp these behaviours out. If the children don’t listen, call the parents in. If the parents don’t listen….

I’m still distraught from hearing that a sixth former took his life earlier this year. This is an absolute tragedy. How could no adult in the school see any red flags? He was a popular boy.

My younger son said to me he doubts any of the teachers know who he is. He’s your classic “average.” Causes no problems and creates no excitement in terms of potential PR opportunities for the school. He says if he passes any GCSEs it will be down to him and not the school! It worries me that he feels so anonymous. Let’s hope things change before he gets to take his GCSEs.

It will be interesting to see the GCSE results this week. Maybe I will be eating my words or maybe the cracks will really now start to show. 🤷‍♀️

Of course it’s not a bad school. There are no bad schools in this area. My point is I wouldn’t move to Amersham if DCGS was my driver. I was over the moon when my son got a place. I “failed” so was excited to see what a grammar school offered that a secondary modern didn’t. To say I’ve been underwhelmed is an understatement.

Personally, I know two Amersham School pupils who achieved all As in GCSEs and A levels. One has graduated from Oxford and the other is at Imperial. I know in my heart of hearts my children would have thrived at Amersham School more than at Challoners and likely would leave school with better grades. Nurture and nature are needed in education. Has DCGS lost its way? I think it has. This is not to say it can’t be put right.

Pharos · 22/08/2023 16:27

@Hilsvision DCGS is tragically not the only school in the area to have experienced a pupil taking their own life in the last couple of years, making any speculative link between pastoral care and what happened is highly inappropriate.

OP FWIW I've experience of DCGS, DCHS, and CGS. All have their strengths and weaknesses academically and pastorally. Amersham is a fantastic option if you're in catchment, also look to St Clement Danes in Chorleywood as another possibility.

Nationally, most secondaries are seeing behaviour issues post-Covid; the soon to be Y10 seem to be particularly challenging, regardless of the school.

On the subject of heads, promotion from within is absolutely standard within the area - the AGS head was a deputy at DCGS, the CGS head was previously deputy, the new head at Borlase in Marlow was at DCGS, the head at DCHS was at CGS...

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Delectable · 23/08/2023 22:55

Pharos · 22/08/2023 16:27

@Hilsvision DCGS is tragically not the only school in the area to have experienced a pupil taking their own life in the last couple of years, making any speculative link between pastoral care and what happened is highly inappropriate.

OP FWIW I've experience of DCGS, DCHS, and CGS. All have their strengths and weaknesses academically and pastorally. Amersham is a fantastic option if you're in catchment, also look to St Clement Danes in Chorleywood as another possibility.

Nationally, most secondaries are seeing behaviour issues post-Covid; the soon to be Y10 seem to be particularly challenging, regardless of the school.

On the subject of heads, promotion from within is absolutely standard within the area - the AGS head was a deputy at DCGS, the CGS head was previously deputy, the new head at Borlase in Marlow was at DCGS, the head at DCHS was at CGS...

Interesting. My friend's son is at St Clement Danes. She thought it was ok but when her daughter got into DCHS she was shocked that the standard of education was available without fees. This was 3yrs ago.
She said SCD had issues with pupils using and bringing drugs to school and the school not pushing her son who's very good in maths and needed more but the focus was on others not doing well. She spoke to the HT who said he was doing very well and they couldn't challenge his pass his grade etc.

staycaysandvacays · 03/09/2023 00:36

Sorry to revive this thread but I have a question about the house types in new and old Amersham. Are there any Victorian houses? Or are they more 1930s vibe and newer?

AmershamLooker · 03/09/2023 07:29

There is a mix, you have the old town and new town. Amersham on the hill, new town, many houses were built around 1930s. Have a read on the Amersham museum site. Browne the site and you will get a lot of information on Amersham.

https://amershammuseum.org/history/on-the-hill/houses-in-the-new-town/

Houses in the new town - Amersham Museum

This article was written for the 2013 Metro-land exhibition The rapid growth of new shops and housing in the 1920s and 1930s was driven forward by local architects and builders […]

https://amershammuseum.org/history/on-the-hill/houses-in-the-new-town/

Notsolong · 03/09/2023 12:24

staycaysandvacays · 03/09/2023 00:36

Sorry to revive this thread but I have a question about the house types in new and old Amersham. Are there any Victorian houses? Or are they more 1930s vibe and newer?

There is a mix. Mostly 50s/60s red brick new builds and more recent in-fill new builds. The old town which is a mix of old with good sized ex-local authority houses. Chesham, the roads on the hills, have some super Victorian villas.

staycaysandvacays · 03/09/2023 14:25

@AmershamLooker @Notsolong thanks both. The museum link was especially helpful. I love Victorian houses and envisioned buying one to renovate but it doesn't seem there are many at all in Amersham but if there are, they are in the old town. Is the old town easily accessible to the train link to London?

AmershamLooker · 03/09/2023 14:54

It is up a hill. I always find Google maps is very useful for house searching. The satellite views also allows you to measure buildings and gardens as well as Google map allowing you to work out drive and walking distances and look at streets view (pay attention to date of photo). If you are able to navigate mumsnet you will find Google maps easy to use.

staycaysandvacays · 05/09/2023 13:57

Is Chesham Bois in Amersham or is it a separate place?

Nonameoclue · 05/09/2023 14:13

Separate. It's between Amersham & Chesham but you can see that on a map.

staycaysandvacays · 05/09/2023 19:58

@Nonameoclue I looked on a map thank you. I then was looking at a school and it was listed as 'Chesham Bois, Amersham'. I therefore came onto this thread to clarify as this thread has been helpful thus far. HTH

AmershamLooker · 05/09/2023 23:18

chesham bois is spread between chesham
and Amersham, more towards Amersham side. You could consider Chesham bois an extension of Amersham, I am sure many living in Chesham bois probably consider themselves Amersham and probably just as many who will have a hernia at if that was implied. Ask as many questions as you like, that is the point of such a forum.

xelous · 24/10/2023 14:22

Sorry to revive this thread but we're planning to move to Amersham. Can anyone advise which nurseries are good please?

We'd like Montessori style and a forest school if possible. Thanks Smile

Porridgeislife · 24/10/2023 14:29

Old McDonald in Chorleywood and Latimer are both pretty popular forest school type nurseries offering full days. I have friends who children at both. The Beehive Montessori nursery in Amersham is shutting down shortly as they can’t offer long days. Amersham is relatively built up so there aren’t many offering forest school in the town.

Nursery places are scarce and you need to plan well ahead especially for <2 years.

xelous · 24/10/2023 16:01

@Porridgeislife thank you, that's really helpful. We would be lovely for 1-2.5/3 as at 2.5(ish) we would be hoping to move across to private school nursery to then run through.

Thanks for the tip about the forest schools. Are there any other nurseries you'd recommend from experience/good reviews from friends/family?

Thanks

RaspberryBlonde · 24/10/2023 20:35

There's also a Montessori nursery at Bois Moor on the outskirts of Chesham, although I don't have any personal experience of it.

It might also be worth looking at some childminders, as while they probably won't have a full Montessori offering some will definitely offer lots of outdoor learning.

HuntyGirl · 26/10/2023 12:35

For those of you commuting into the City or have spouses/partners that do, how do you find the commute?

It looks as if it will be about an hour/more than from Amersham into Liverpool Street for example. Would be really grateful for any experiences

coolmum123 · 26/10/2023 13:46

TintyMinty · 27/01/2023 17:00

Honestly you don’t have to live on top of the school like you do in London - the grammar catchment is huge with big school bus network. There are excellent private (and state) schools in GX, the trains are quicker from there as well. Its loads quicker to drive into central London on A40, get on to M25 and to LHR.

Prices have gone up loads since Covid and people stay in the area and in their family houses for decades whilst their kids go through school, uni and then get their first post uni jobs in London before downsizing.

Hiya, we are in GX and our kids are now at uni but we have loads of school buses that pick up and drop off for the grammar schools. our house is in catchmetn for DCG. The train journey into town is so quick 20 mins on the fast train and we are in Marylebone. quick walk to Baker st and theres plenty of connextions into town. If theres problems with the overground you can go to Hillingdon or Uxbridge and get a cab.

Delectable · 31/10/2023 15:32

HuntyGirl · 26/10/2023 12:35

For those of you commuting into the City or have spouses/partners that do, how do you find the commute?

It looks as if it will be about an hour/more than from Amersham into Liverpool Street for example. Would be really grateful for any experiences

This is what I've thought too. The commute looks like a huge hurdle.

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