Toilet off kitchen. Thoughts?

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We live in a 3 bed semi with one toilet (in the main bathroom upstairs). The only place we could add a w/C would be off the kitchen. Thanks to previous owners strange extension the back door currently looks onto a brick wall so the w/C would go there, effectively removing the back door from the kitchen.
We would still have rear access via patio doors.
I think it's unpleasant to have a loo off a kitchen but DP sees no issue and another toilet would be handy.
What would you do? Add a toilet or not? 4 in our family if that matters.
Thanks x

I had this in an old house, it didn't bother me one bit other than it was the only loo in the house which was weird. We did some re configuration in the upstairs bathroom to add a toilet and make it a jack and jill bathroom so downstairs was handy and accessible for guests.

We added a toilet in the corner of our kitchen. I know it is frowned upon on here but it has been a godsend (and there are only 3 in our house). We aren't planning to move so I figured we will get our money's worth even if the next people decided to rip it out. They could easily turn it into a utility or large pantry if they didn't like it though.

No issue, relatively common. Better than not having one, surely?

I have a vague feeling that there is some kind of building regulation that prevents this, there needs to be some sort of lobby between li and kitchen. It came up on their survey, and my parents had to change their old house within the first 6 months of moving around as a condition of their mortgage but this was in the early 1980s.
DS is house hunting at the moment and I've seen details of a few older houses with a loo off the kitchen though. It would put me off.

@78percentLindt

I have a vague feeling that there is some kind of building regulation that prevents this, there needs to be some sort of lobby between li and kitchen. It came up on their survey, and my parents had to change their old house within the first 6 months of moving around as a condition of their mortgage but this was in the early 1980s. DS is house hunting at the moment and I've seen details of a few older houses with a loo off the kitchen though. It would put me off.

Think the building regs issue is ventilation?

IT's a standard set up in most of the victorian stock around here - bathroom downstairs, walk through kitchen to the bathroom.

I thought you had to have 2 doors separating a loo from the kitchen? Maybe that’s an old standard now, I can understand it though, a door from the kitchen straight into the toilet is a bit odd.

@Proudpeacock I am toying with the idea of doing this.

Please do you know roughly how much space you used for the toilet? Did you fit a small basin for hand washing or use the kitchen sink ?

It is allowed here . We are Scotland. Some new builds seem to have it so I assume there is a demand for a downstairs w/C even if it is directly off the kitchen. I'm just not sure if I'm OK with it.
It seems there are mixed opinions.
It would be in the corner of a large dining kitchen where you would have the backdoor, not the end of a galley kitchen if that makes sense.

We have a small storage room next to our downstairs toilet which you go through from the kitchen. I think there were building regs for two doors but it was over 20 years ago and there may not be regs for this now. There is an opening window and small xpelair in there

Our old terrace house had bathroom off kitchen but toilet was behind another door within bathroom. Could you put a window and small xpelair in there OP for ventilation

I have a toilet off the kitchen, it was there when I moved in. We only have to two loos and its very useful. I encourage people not to poo in it if possible.

I think it's gross. I don't want to see a toilet from the kitchen. 2 doors or some kind of interval lobby is a must. We are buying currently and it has made an impact/effected offers and how much we are willing to pay if there is something like this to correct/remove. Also if it's bug enough to be a utility then there must be space for a lobby/corridor

@FrogFairy are you kidding? If you must put a toilet in your kitchen then of course you put a sink in there! If I went to someone's house with a loo in the kitchen and no sink I'd definitely never eat there. That's really yuck.

I also think this is fine, much better than only having one loo.

We have a downstairs toilet and shower off the kitchen. There isn't one door separating the 2 rooms; the kitchen door leads to what was originally a tiny cloakroom and a door from there leads to the shower room.

I find it really useful and there's no problem with smells going into the kitchen.

We have it our house and it's fine. Building regs in both England and Scotland state that there must be 2 doors between a kitchen and a toilet ( ie a small lobby)

@JustWonderingIfYou I agree, but people do some strange things. I once bought a house where the kitchen sink, stainless steel with draining board, was in the bathroom and the only sink for cooking, cleaning and washing yourself!

The building regs 2-doors/mini lobby issue no longer applies as long as there is a basin in the loo for handwashing. We had this in our first house. It wasn't ideal but better than having no downstairs loo.

Our toilet has a sliding door into storage lobby as it takes up less space. We have a tiny sink in toilet and keep shoes and stuff like that in storage bit

We had it in Victorian conversion gf flat. I got used to it. I do remember 40 + years ago when my parents were building a 'granny flat' that the 2 doors from loo to kitchen was a rule that made my father seethe so maybe it has changed since then.

It wouldn't be my first choice, I'd try really hard to squeeze it in elsewhere (under stairs etc) but if I felt I really needed one downstairs and it really was the only option, I'd do it. Definitely a sink of its own though & family definitely told upstairs for poos.

I don’t think it is permitted anymore, building regulations and all that, the door of the toilet should not open in the kitchen. I was also told that ground floor bathrooms need also a wide enough door for a person to go through with a wheelchair.

And so my dream of a loo under the stairs died…

I'm pretty sure one door is allowed now becuas there are new builds near us with . There would be a window for ventilation.
There isn't room for 2 doors to create a lobby because of the way the extension is.
I also like the idea of the back door not looking onto a brick wall and utilising the small area left at the back door. It will be reasonable cheap to do, I'm just not convinced if I should.
There's nowhere else to put another toilet in the house.
So it looks like people are either in the camp of it is totally fine or it's gross which is basically where DP and I are....

Contact local planning department to get the current rules. They'll be happy to advise.
(I wouldn't have one myself.)

I one lived in a house (student!) where the toilet off the kitchen had a large hole in the door - in theory you could sit on the loo and fry an egg on the stove! Ah.....those were the days!