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New build next to housing association

111 replies

Happydove · 28/03/2019 21:13

This will sound awful but I need opinions. Pearl clutching Boden wearing mumsnetters are who I want blunt opinions from here!

So new build development nice 4 bed house with big garden BUT it’s next to the housing association houses. As in they back onto the garden all along one side and end.
For this reason the house is affordable for us plus the garden is biggest on development.
This is a expensive town and certainly not a cheep house.
Be honest would you consider it? We are talking at least 5 LA gardens along one side of the garden.
I know it sounds horrible and snobbish but I’m worried about antisocial behavior would we have resentment/ a social divide that could cause a problem etc.
We are both professionals I’m public facing ( locally) DH is a high earner but not local. We have children also.
Confused

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CoolShoeshine · 29/03/2019 02:40

I second the leilandii idea Wink

DexyMidnight · 29/03/2019 04:28

No i wouldn't buy it, sorry. To the best of my knowledge I've only ever had one social housing neighbour (in a private block of flats built long ago with no social housing provision) and she and her family were like characters from Shameless!

TheoriginalLEM · 29/03/2019 04:44

I would be put off by 5 gardens backing on to mine. But not because they are HA. What a horrible assumption to make. Sorry love but clutch your own pearls. You don't sound very nice

greenlynx · 29/03/2019 06:39

I would be put off by 5 gardens along one side, too much neighbors. It means my garden will be heavily overlooked.
As to concern about HA, I would go and have a look and check general things for the area like crime statistics, school reports, etc. But tbh I would do it always, HA or not.

AJPTaylor · 29/03/2019 06:45

Our street has 25 percent social housing. You would literally not know it at all. I guess the question for you is how much of a bargain is it? How much do you need that extra space?

Happydove · 29/03/2019 06:51

Right firstly I have deliberately asked for the most snobbish views as when buying it is important to go in fully aware of those views from others.
We are not actually snobby at all which is why we are considering but have doubts. So don’t judge me without actually knowing me! I’m not in boden with pearls on and have friends and family from all social sectors.
Children not an issue we have our own so probably noisy kids next door may be a good thing for us.
I am fully aware problems exist though where we currently live a few problem families in one HA street manage to cause all the drama in the area and do fit the stereotype. Every other family is lovely but they do say it is a problem one friend has even said she wouldn’t consider buying this new build for this reason (yes I have friends who live in HA and yes we have discussed in real life).
I couldn’t cope with proper antisocial behavior and 5 gardens up one side does increase my risk. Yes of course I could have the devil himself buy the house next door and have just lovely families in the HA side.
But would you do it?
It’s only a passing consideration btw looking at other houses all over the area.
Where do you stand if you had a problem with a family?

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Happydove · 29/03/2019 06:54

We need 4 beds it’s about 30k cheaper than the same house 2 doors up with a much smaller garden. It’s also not selling which tells me others are being put off it.

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titsbumfannythelot · 29/03/2019 06:58

You do realise that you could have non HA tenants that are complete arseholes and there's nothing you could do about it?

You could call the local police station and see if there's been many incidents.

Frouby · 29/03/2019 06:59

I live in a HA property at the end (they don't want us in the middle you see) of a big new build estate.

It's lovely, my neighbours are lovely. The estate is lovely. Looking at the local fb for the whole estate more problems happen further up the estate.

Worse neighbour I have ever had was owner occupiers. Absolute nightmare neighbours, drug dealers, fights, domestic abuse yada yada yada.

If you have issues with HA tenants you can contact the HA, and they will intervene. If you have problems with owner occupiers it's more difficult.

Either buy it or don't.

RuthW · 29/03/2019 07:06

Might be ok but you may have trouble selling it.

New estates round here have to have a percentage of social housing and all have become non desirable areas within 5 years.

ThroughASashWindow · 29/03/2019 07:09

Gosh. I live in a housing association property, next to privately owned properties. I wear Boden, Seasalt, Joules etc (if that matters in any kind of way) and I'm not antisocial or ever cause a nuisance. All my HA neighbours are equally law abiding and non nuisance making. It's not a blanket statement on someones interpersonal/life skills you know (living in an HA property)...it's literally JUST a form of accommodation..just like yours.

Myusernameismud · 29/03/2019 07:09

Wow, the snobbery around here is something to behold. Hmm

No, don't buy the house OP. You sound like a horrible neighbour. Buy a farm in the middle of nowhere, where the poor social housing folk can't get to you. Your judgement is already skewed, so you will see issues where there really are none.

DH and I live in a beautiful new build in a rural village, with our 2 DCs. We rent from a HA, as do all our immediate neighbours. We are all in work (we were prioritised because of our income) and all keep a tidy, clean orderly home. The estate is not devalued, and it doesn't look like a shit pit, just by our mere, lowly presence.
The houses behind us are all owned.
One of them was raided by the police at 3am one day just before Christmas. Turns out the husband was growing and selling weed, and his window cleaning business was just a front. The wife has moved away and the house is sitting empty.
My sister moved out of HA housing and into a house she bought with her DH. They have had more parking issues, neighbour disputes and reasons to complain than they ever had living in social housing. Around a year after they moved in, their neighbour to the left was arrested on child pornography charges. Turns out he'd been caught poking cameras under the side of changing room cubicles at the local swimming pool. When he was arrested they found thousands of indecent images on his computer. His poor wife had no idea, and they had 3 boys together.
The neighbours on the right have 3 older teenage kids who have rowdy parties when their parents are off on their various holidays and nights away. My sister spotted 2 of their mates having sex in the shed at the back of the garden Hmm

Based on my own experience, I'd take HA neighbours over homeowners any day. Because here's the thing, having the means to purchase your own house, does not make you exempt from being a prick.

Disfordarkchocolate · 29/03/2019 07:09

Last time new houses were built next to me (posh ones) antisocial behaviour whet through the roof with all the antisocial middle-class children and their cars, drugs (lots as they had money) and petty theft just for fun. They may not be looking forward to living next to you either.

Saucery · 29/03/2019 07:11

I wouldn’t buy any house with 5 gardens backing onto it, regardless of the status of the inhabitants of those houses.

MintyT · 29/03/2019 07:12

My 2 sons are lucky enough to live in new build LA homes ( small but beautiful) one I would happily live next door too. The other no way buy choice now - toys laying everywhere old cars, grass needs cutting noisy, but there is a really really lovely sense of community. They all help each other out - in the summer all the children are playing outside together- bbq a trampoline is outside paddling pool in the summer parents looking out for each other, when I was younger with young children I would of pairs over the odds to live their.
Where he lives they are young families with low income, but they are all good kind people.

Fridasrage · 29/03/2019 07:14

This is really gross.

Maybe spend some time having a close look at your values, because they suck.

It's telling that you felt the need to specify exactly what type of person you wanted to respond to your message.

Litttlepinkegg · 29/03/2019 07:15

I knew you’d get slated op. I live on a new build there has been issues with police being called to 2 x social housing homes they are the minority mostly we all get on nicely except for the solicitor next to me but that’s another thread!
There’s some interesting research into mixed texture housing developments in the U.K. maybe have a read around op.

sluj · 29/03/2019 07:24

Even if you buy it OP, it sounds like you wouldn't be able to sell it. It sounds like the developer is having trouble shifting it and that's when they are shiny, new and unoccupied.

GrumpyOldMare · 29/03/2019 07:24

I live in a HA house,all the houses in the Close I live in are HA.

It's quiet (except after school and in the school holidays). No anti social behaviour,loud music/parties,no drug dealing/taking.There are no abandoned/burnt out cars/settees etc.

I think 99% of the tenants here work.
Not all HA areas/tenants are anti social/drug taking/benefit grabbing,many of us are hard working,like our privacy and quiet and take pride in our property and garden.

It just comes across sometimes (to me anyway) that HA/Council tenants are looked down on as second class and likely to cause trouble.In some cases,yes that's true,but some homeowners can be as bad.

Newyearnewunicorn · 29/03/2019 07:36

My sibling recently sold a house on a 1970s estate very quickly because buyers prefer houses on estates where there is no social housing especially the ones moving into the area.
I live in a beautiful old cottage with the neighbour fr hell, if we’d both been social housing tenants the issues would have been solved very quickly. I am looking to move and will actively look for an old council semi.

I think it probably comes down to resale ease and value rather than the actual people you’re living near as you can have problems with any neighbours.

Happydove · 29/03/2019 07:39

The sell on ability does worry us as does the fact the developers can’t shift it. It was the first thing they mentioned when we asked about it. “We have to inform you it’s next to HA”.

This is why I’m asking here! Stop saying I’m the horrible one when I am asking for honest views. Everyone knows most people in all walks of life are honest nice people, I’m asking because it has been strongly pointed out by the developers and a friend in HA herself who has had naighbour issues. I didn’t see it as an issue at all at first. But if it is unsellable long term it is an issue.
I am asking for views on a housing plot fgs.

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PresidentHump · 29/03/2019 07:44

And you've had them.

Disfordarkchocolate · 29/03/2019 07:48

If the developer can't sell them reasonably easily don't buy. I know someone who bought a new build, the developers cut prices by 50K, still not out of negative equity.

BishopBrennansArse · 29/03/2019 07:51

Well if you were next to me o don't think you'd have an issue, not many of our neighbours. But in this estate of 26 properties 2 households are trouble and it does blight things.

stayathomegardener · 29/03/2019 07:53

I wouldn't purely on the basis of having a minimum of five neighbours adjoining.