Where to live near London? Safe, green and open-minded place

[lamii]

Hi all,
Could you please give me tips on places near London to buy a flat/house 250K cash, in a safe area, green and open minded. We are both europeans ;)
I love London, want to relocate there but I'm scared of crimes and pollution!

[Lorelei76]

Bit, I meant the OP not you! And her first post with the wink.

[BitOutOfPractice]

Oh apologies. I withdraw my ffs then

[EssentialHummus]

You could get something quite decent in Chatham on your budget OP.

[Manumission]

A referendum voting map could be a handy tool. bit had a point there.

[minifingerz]

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-56938693.html

Any good? About 30 minutes by train into Victoria. Suburban but near countryside.

[YelloDraw]

And from a poster who says "ooh I must live somewhere open minded because ya know, nudge nudge, wink wink, Brexit". Fucks sake

Why FFS? I think that is quite a reasonable thing to take note of. If I were moving from another country I would want to live somewhere relatively mixed, used to people moving in and out, open minded, probably quite liberal. I wouldn't want to move to some small town ehere everyone has lived there for ever, with a huge UKIP base and loads of brexit posters up everywhere.

[Lorelei76]

Yello, because she used the term white trash. If she said she wanted to look at Brexit maps, fine. It's the additional rhetoric that makes me sad.

[PigletWasPoohsFriend]

Sorry Yello but wanting to move somewhere open minded doesn't sit with the 'white trash' comment of the OP.

[Lorelei76]

I just checked that email, no reply from Mnhq at all.

[lamii]

@Lorelei76 I see that you have a lot of time on your hands, so yes please continue to work on deleting this thread, it's perfectly fine with me! It would be helpful actually, thanks for your help.

[lamii]

@Lorelei76 ps: are you for real? I am clearly not looking at the brexit map, on the contrary.

[lamii]

Thanks everyone else for suggestion. I appreciate! I will re-open the thread when Lorelei76 has deleted this one. I won't use any controversial term because 1-I didn't mean to 2-it attracts bored people

[KindDogsTail]

It is true, that using phrases like that somewhere like Mumsnet endorses an unpleasant and denigrating way of thinking about other people, and it is wrong, but the OP has already said she regretted that phrase.

Meanwhile, I am sure anyone would would agree that when houses are built and advertised as 'executive homes' there is a sub-text there: Even though no groups of people are actually mentioned, a whole group is definitely being pointed out as being excluded by implication. Similarly, if an estate agent mentions a popular or sought-after area, close to shops and cafes and good schools and transport links, there is a hidden message in that advertisement. meaning 'middle-class majority' - not just useful information.

If a poster had asked if anyone knew where she could find a place to live for £250,000 in a leafy place, and in a popular, sought-after area, with good schools, and with good transport links to London, she would not be reported to MN - but most certainly certain groups would be excluded from those places.

[MontePulciana]

Horrible term. Are you referring to leave voters? Absolutely horrible. Don't move to Manchester please.

[pennycarbonara]

Poor OP. I would have assumed that as well as being not completely au fair with language and what would be acceptable on MN, the term is chosen because it is unfortunately more often working class racist white people who are more likely to shout threatening remarks in the street or be violent. Maybe they actually have experience of this?? The posh racist white people (whom there are plenty of in the leafy, less boho bits of the home counties with good schools) would be more about the snide remarks out of earshot and being a bit cold - they could be a bigger concern if the OP was trying to rent a house from them but OP can afford to buy; hardly anyone would worry about them beating you up if they heard you talking on the phone in a foreign language as has happened in a number of attacks since the Brexit vote.

[AGinForEachMakesThree]

What even is this thread?

[WrongTrouser]

What even is this thread?

It is a bizarre but quite neat illustration of the wormhole we are all in danger of disappearing down where there are now some groups of people we have to talk respectfully about whilst there are others we can slag off to our hearts content in the name of tolerance and open-mindedness.

Sorry OP, I know you have back tracked on your inappropriate choice of words

[ButterfliesRfree]

Does she mean she doesn't want to live near the TOWIE bunch? (Just to clarify that's not pointing to anyone who lives in Essex, because Essex is very nice and spot on for being close to London, but I don't think the OP wants to live anywhere near those characters on the telly. I think she's seen them on TV and just wants to be sure she doesn't have them as neighbours. That would be scary ).
Moving on, I was going to suggest in London looking at either New Malden or Tooting. i like Tooting or anywhere around there and it's near all the big parks/commons. New Malden same thing but it's closer to Richmond Park. So much to choose from. South London is the best part of London in my opinion.

[BitOutOfPractice]

I've been accused of stereotyping Essex in this thread but crikey that really does take the biscuit. Not that the op could afford to live "near that towie bunch" anyway.

[BitOutOfPractice]

"The majority of sales in Brentwood during the last year were flats, selling for an average price of £250,163. Detached properties sold for an average of £734,083, with semi-detached properties fetching £439,954."

Rightmove

[Valentine2]

OP
It's nice to know you have apologised for using that term. This country can do with less of harsh terms and tones right now.
good luck for your move.

[Valentine2]

OP
Sorry I wanted to ask what's wrong in looking at the Brexit map though? A previous post said something along these lines: if you move from abroad to UK, you would like o go to an area with people who do want o integrate more. simce immigration was a big, if not the biggest, factor I. Brexit, I say you take a look at the map around London. Just beware that some of the Leave areas have a high population of immigrants. So check carefully. Buying a property is a very big decision.

[specialsubject]

Regarding attitudes , I give you the Glastonbury festival. Lots of earth mother right on we love everybody types, you would hope?

Many racist abuse incidents this year and as always, acres of filth left afterwards.

You take your chances.

[maryso]

Something like this?

Or there must be many many more much cheaper ones without residential moorings if you are fine with hopping around London every couple of weeks. You can decide how safe, green and open-minded, over the course of say a year, all these places are. May also be easier to sell up if you decide London is not for you.