Wall hung toilets and hidden cisterns

[Yorky]

I think that this looks like a great easy clean solution for our new shower room-to-be, but DH says he'd feel like he had to squat over it instead of sitting on it properly - any advice?

Also, looking around there seem to be a lot of back-to-wall or hidden cistern toilets around atm. This may be a dense question but where does the cistern go? Do you need a built in cupboard behind them to hide the cistern in? Or move a bit of wall? If so, how are they space saving? And aren't they a pain if they need attention?

Thank you wise MNers for unconfusing one who didn't know a bathroom could be such a technical minefield!

hanging toilets have a weight limit, check this out first and gauge most relatives
hidden cisterns, would only do this if they are accessible so you don't have to break open the wall in case of a leak.

We have a wall hung toilet. We have a half wall height shelf thing that runs the whole width of the room to which it's attached (alao the sink). The shelf is tiled so has some sort of special cement in place beside the toilet that can be removed to get at thcistern if need be.

I love it. It makes the bathroom look bigger and it's much easier to clean the floor. No crouching required.

You can either have a cabinet like one of these

or you can build it into a false wall. We are in the middle of doing this in our cloakroom. In our last house we used a cabinet, but due to the awkward width of our cloakroom and some pipework that we cannot change we are building a small wall across the back.

Access is the main issue, the cabinets front panel lifts out, we are using those same fittings to allow us to slide a tiled wall out. We are using these things here

Forgot to say, the toilet attaches to one of these bad boys

There is video on YouTube that shows you how to fit a back to wall toilet, if you don't want to do the wall hanging one.

Realised in my haste to post above I have focused on back to wall rather than wall hung apologies.

This is the sort of shelf you can build:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=207&t=855019&mid=0 see quite far down the page for photos.

But you probably shouldn't tile it as it will be difficult when the cistern goes wrong - as it will eventually do!

We covered over our studwork in softwood matchboarding and then painted. We have an oiled wooden shelf on the top which is not fixed down so it is easy to get to all the basic pipes and access panels without even needing a screwdriver.

You can have a concealed cistern hidden behind a false wall (plaster board?) which has been tiled over. You get access ro the cistern through th flush plate:

community.screwfix.com/thread/63027

I have just bought a grohe eau2 cistern but geberit are also very good.

Am I missing something? I thought back to wall toilets were supposed to be space savers? But you seem to have a choice of a cupboard to hide the cistern, or a false wall to hide the cistern - neither of which takes up any less space than a 'normal' toilet.
The only reason I've heard in their favour was from a friend who says the pipe work is all hidden so you don't have to crawl behind to clean - that makes sense in my language!

Back to wall and wall hung loos (ie hidden cistern) aren't especially space saving, EXCEPTthat the cistern tends to be very thin so as to fit into the false wall/cupboard that you build for it. So the cistern cupboard will take up a bit less depth than a normal cistern would. Also the manufacturers often make the wall hung/back to wall loos a little smaller since people like them for small spaces.

I agree with your friend - they're much easier to clean, and also much cleaner/smarter looking IMO as there is less plumbing on show. I think they are great.

You have to have access to the cistern - sometimes this is done by using a large flush (size of a book) which can be removed if you need access. Sometimes you have a shelf across the top of the cupboard which can be lifted up if needed.

Oh, dear, I understood the thread title as well hung toilets and got quite excited for a moment...

Sorry to disappoint Nullius