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A flat in Crystal Palace, or Sutton, or a house in Catford?

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confusedperson · 03/01/2011 18:57

Hi everyone. I am in a very deep thinking as to what and where to buy? We currently live in West Norwood and are looking to buy our own place, i.e. for me & my two small children. My budget is around 200k, and that is about what we can afford. Crystal Palace is nice and trendy, but not so good for children? (just guessing) Sutton is nice and family orientated? In somewhere like Catford (or similar, I am looking in south part of London anyway) I could afford a house rather than a flat, but is it worth it? I am so confused which decision to make? Anyone got a good advice?

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sunshineandshowers · 06/01/2011 09:47

I have lived in Catford. I thought it was great. I would always choose to live in a house as opposed to flat. I found Catford friendly. I lived there pre DC so don't know what it would be like with DC. Fab transport links. And the dogs! I used to go out in Catford alot (and I was a city gal), used to get lock ins and everything. Good Luck.

mitfordsisters · 06/01/2011 15:42

confused, the train journey from Sutton to London Bridge is quite long isn't it - that could be a nightmare getting back in time to pick up kids etc. Personally I would live further in (and in fact do!)

Hullygully · 06/01/2011 16:38

It was about 15 years ago when I escaped Horror Central - but it doesn't seem to have changed much to me, just busier and Lewisham is larger.

Hullygully · 06/01/2011 16:38
FizzyMakeFeelNice · 06/01/2011 20:16

The train takes about 45 minutes, but could always get the fast train to Croydon, then get the train to Sutton from there, which takes 12 minutes.

GreenButton · 07/01/2011 09:38

I thought the fast trains from London Bridge to Croydon went to East Croydon, not West Croydon, which is where you'd have to go to get the train to Sutton. You might have to get a semi-fast train to Norwood Junction and then change for Sutton.

FizzyMakeFeelNice · 07/01/2011 21:01

A rail ticket to Sutton would cover the tram ride from East Croydon to West.

Blu · 08/01/2011 12:24

Monty - West Norwood has a lake? Where?
W Norwood is a small hub, not a regional centre like Catford, and I think it's High St is quite good: a great fishmonger, Beamish and McGlue deli, useful shops, waslking distance of the chi chi enclave of W Dulwich if you want bookshop, yummymummy clothes, useless designer gifts and yet more delis, it has the excellent Julian's Primary if you live close enough. The High St suffers from being one of those strung out ribbon devpt high roads found all the way round central London, but that's very hard to escape if you are looking for somewhere within a reasonable budget and can't live on a long expensive commuter route.

(I don't live in W Norwood, by the way)

kerrykatonaskebab · 08/01/2011 14:04

Crystal Palace, nice but a bit overpriced imo.

Sutton is on the Thameslink, fast trains to Victoria too. Good family area, excellent schools, lot of green space too.

Catford, I wouldnt, my mate has just managed to leave and wouldnt go back.

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 08/01/2011 14:47

Blu - I think she must mean South Norwood Lakes, on the other side of the hill (it's serenity btw Smile)

West Norwood High Street is improving, albeit very slowly. It's at that odd stage of having some really run down shops side-by-side with some more 'upmarket' ones. My end is pretty rank still, but it'll get better

Sorry about your Nan Fizzy Sad Is she one one of the estates? I generally feel pretty safe around here, but I'm younger and I'll admit there's a few areas I'd feel uncomfortable wandering about after dark (much like any inner city I suppose)

Catfordian · 08/01/2011 17:03

Blu - South Norwood Lake

Blu · 08/01/2011 19:44

I never knew about S Norwood lake! (probably because it's miles away) - is it a nice place to go?

Ey up MrsDTK, I windered where you were! How is your boy getting on at school? DS will more than likely follow in his footsteps.

Have you moved? I didn';t think you were so close to w Norwood High St?

Hullygully · 08/01/2011 20:33

I went to Julian's... Oh so, so long ago.

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 08/01/2011 20:33

Meh, it's nothing exciting - if I was going to drive to a park with a lake around here I'd go a little further and go to Kelsey Park in Beckenham (lovely park, very picturesque in the summer, nice cafe and decent and pretty new play equipment)

DS1 is loving it at school, and doing very well (is doing his GCSE Maths 2 years early). I'm still very impressed, which is great considering how many years I've actively disliked the school. Just goes to show that they can improve, and improve drastically. DS2 will be going in September (yay for sibling rules!)

We finally got a transfer to a 3 bed place just before DS1 started Secondary school. Only 10 minutes down the road, but it's made a huge difference. Weirdly enough I'm now living 2 minutes from the house I grew up in, just on the opposite side of the park Smile

FizzyMakeFeelNice · 08/01/2011 23:00

No, MrsDTK, she lives on Thurlestone Road, mostly got mugged doing her shopping on the High Street.

I've always said, if I win the lottery the first thing I'd do would be to buy her a house in a nice area/her native Dublin whichever she'd prefer.

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 08/01/2011 23:54

If I won the lottery I wouldn't be living here either! Smile

I'm not that far from her actually. I hate the idea of someone being that scared that they end up stuck indoors. I'm around a lot during the day, if she ever wants an escort/friendly face feel free to PM me. I've been on here a long time, I'm sure I can find someone to vouch for my non-hairy handed truckdriverness!

Blu · 09/01/2011 11:32

Mrs DTK - really please to hear of your housing transfer - sounds excellent. i did wonder whether your DS was a member of the Incredibles family when you said he walked to school in 10 mins when he first started! It sounds as if he's doing really well - good for him - DS will go in 2012.

Great tip about the park.

I have met MrsDTK at least twice and she is indeed fab. She organised the MN Mile For M walk in a local park, too, some years ago! I think providing a network of helpers for each other's vulnerable relatives across the country sounds a lovely idea!

I wonder if the siting of a specialist unit for young people removed from school in W Norwood is a factor? Sad.

In all truth, I think community and knowing people is a lot about making yourself feel at hoe wherever you live. I never wanted to live where I do, but as Kirsty says, you have to compromise to budget, and in terms of access to transport, parks, good schools, and hous pices we couldn't get a better mix in our budget. And having oved here i am really pleased to find that we are in a close knit community of other families in the local roads, from school, and with a great community spirit.

I also found that in Brixton, I know MI enjoys that in Catford - and all areas of London have little micro-climates - the property-porn haven cheek by jowl with bleak dereliction. You can't generalise about areas. OP, I would identify what suits your commuting and schooling needs first and then look at property in residential family-orientated roads..

Twirl · 09/01/2011 12:21

Forest Hill. Excellent primary schools, lots of access to green space, the fabulous Hornimun Museum and gardens, 10 minutes to London Bridge, 3 bedroom flats for 200,000.

Twirl · 09/01/2011 12:22

sorry, typo Blush

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 09/01/2011 12:47

Blu - do you mean Park Campus? We live opposite, and in all the time we've been here I've never had any trouble with the pupils there (apart from the stabbing, and that poor boy would have been targeted at his original school if he hadn't been moved here) But then again, like most schools around here, we always have a couple of PCs hanging around the entrances at the start and finish of school, so if they were causing trouble it wouldn't be right on my doorstep Sad

If you walk down from my end to the Tulse Hill end of the High Street you do see some 'dodgy' looking characters, but they tend to be older, and look more like alcoholics (swigging from cans of White Star) or rough sleepers. I don't do it that often I admit. I get pissed off at the prices charged in the local/express branches of the main supermarkets (but that's a whole other rant)

Blu · 09/01/2011 18:16

I did mean Park Campus, and am v glad to hear that it is not the epicentre of dodginess. I shouldn't have brought it up really as I know them to be a dedicated and well run unit.

Re Forest Hill I know peope who moved a child from a private school to a primary v local to Vale Rd (the Vale?) and the Hornimann, and are far more happy with it. Not sure what it is called, though. Forest Hill a good suggestion.

confusedperson · 01/02/2011 13:46

Hi, I am back here. Just discovered that I could afford a seemingly nice house (2-3 bed well under 200k) in Mottingham area, but I don't know anything about Mottingham. Is it worth looking at?

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