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The Ancient Greeks

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learnandsay · 29/12/2011 18:04

Hypothetically speaking I reckon it makes sense to teach young English/ (perhaps British) children about the Romans because of their influence. I'm not sure why, but the Egyptians are plain fascinating and we're already mad about them in my family. That's an unfair bias, I know. Cavemen we're into as well. But they're simple to discuss.

But the Ancient Greeks?! I'm considering skipping them altogether. My own degree is in philosophy. I've studied their writings for eons. But when it comes to explaining to young kids what the Greeks did, I get really, really stuck.

Aristotle categorised plants, animals and political systems.
Athens had one of the first democracies, and the first to be called by that name.
The Spartans had one of the earliest systems of special forces training regimes, if you don't call starving seven year old boys and whipping them to death torture. OK, sure. I admit all of it! But how does any of this help?

So, the Greeks invented school. But is that a good thing or a bad thing?

The more I think about it the more convinced I get that the Greeks are going to get skipped in our house. They gave us the inspiration for the film 300. OK but is that something to be glad about? And many of their mythologies are pretty messed up. You've only got to start with Edypus and it all goes down hill to Hades from that point.

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maree1 · 03/01/2012 17:34

Greek stories are great. Don't miss out. And some say about 25% of English vocabulary stems from Greek.

wahwahwah · 03/01/2012 17:35

Wasn't Cleopatra Greek?

polarfox · 03/01/2012 21:49

You would skip greek mythology??? That's selfish.. It is mastery in imagination, the story telling is superior to hollywood, the characters, the metamorphosis, the answer to how things came about, how thinking started?
The stories of courage, of loyalty, of values such as honour?
I have had the most interesting bed time conversations with my sons always arising after reading Atticus the storytellers books, Troy or odessy.. And we discuss all aspects of ancient greek life- it has given them a great education in itself....

Personally, I wish they did more history (not just ancient greeks) and dropped the nonsense lessons such as SEAL and watching useless DVDs ..

PastSellByDate · 04/01/2012 08:12

Cleopatra - actually Cleopatra VII - Ptolemaic Dynasty founded by Alexander the Great's General Ptolemy after Alexander's death in 323 BC.

Website explaining dynasty here: www.houseofptolemy.org/housekng.htm

Here's some info about Alexander the Great for KS1/ KS2: greece.mrdonn.org/alexander.html

A bit dry - but Carl Sagan discusses the significance of the library at Alexandria here: worldhistoryeducatorsblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/carl-sagan-introduces-library-at.html - possibly more suitable KS2 Y5/6

This is probably better for teacher's to mine information out for KS1 & Y3/4 KS2 - but lots of information on the history of ancient libraries and how that information managed to survive the ages: www.history-magazine.com/libraries.html

wahwahwah · 04/01/2012 09:00

May I just add 'Fecking Greeks... they invented homosexuality!' Father Ted.

throckenholt · 04/01/2012 09:11

wahwahwah - Grin

geometry
drama
New Testament (written in Greek) - big impact on Western history
Many words in science are based on Greek (when most of us think they are from latin).

joe80 · 13/11/2013 21:28

Are there any mummies whose children learn ancient greek at their school?

columngollum · 14/11/2013 09:33

Can't speak for primary school children, but here's a current Latin and Greek curriculum www.brentwoodschool.co.uk/latin-and-classical-greek-curriculum

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