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11 year old entitled or depressed?

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Purplebasil · 09/03/2026 10:53

Hi πŸ‘‹

I really need some advice please regarding my 11 year old please πŸ™
I don’t know what to do anymore.

Brief background. Her dad and I divorced when she was 3. I quickly got together with and got pregnant with my now husband (no affair just an fyi!) My daughter and I moved out of our little home and about a month before I was due to give birth, moved in with my now husband. We’ve since moved into a bigger house for the last 5 years, got married and had a third child and are a very stable loving family of 5. Despite the not very nice circumstances of my me leaving my ex, we have managed to establish a very civil relationship focussing purely on our daughter.

When my daughter started school she was quite the handful and she actually had weekly therapy at school. I thought it was a good idea with her behaviour and how she was and also could address any issues she may not be telling us. Therapist had no concerns and my daughter really enjoyed seeing her.

Covid hit, but all was well. Happy go lucky child. No issues. Plain sailing.
She is now in year 6 and since year 4 she has changed again. Some days I think maybe she’s being an entitled brat, some days I think she’s depressed and some days I think it’s hormones. I’m so stuck.

My daughter gets spoilt, she’s very privileged in the sense that her dad is not short of a penny or two and she gets what she wants when she’s with her dad. On the flip side we break our backs with work making sure our children have lovely holidays, experiences and family time. I had a horrid b*tch for a mum growing up and because of the divorce i’ve always always ensured my daughter knows she’s very much part of the family and she has three parents who love her and we talk a lot to make sure there are no issues. Emotionally myself and my husband are very available to her, my husband often has 121 chats with her too as to make sure everything is ok and to just help and give advice! She is very very loved by everyone.

Materially she is probably spoilt. She has an iphone, tablet etc and wants for nothing. She spends a lot of time on her phone (which has parental controls on) and has an absolute fit if I reduce her time on it. She would happily spend 24/7 on her phone in her room. Nothing else matters!!!

Behaviour: Lazy, ungrateful, not very nice to her middle brother, MISERABLE. The miserable thing is probably the hardest element. It’s so bad it almost feels put on? It was her birthday last week and she didn’t turn the corners of her mouth up once when opening gifts unless it was money. I purchased 3 low cost but very much wanted items and didn’t get any emotion. There was a smile when she received money. I took her and her 3 friends out for dinner that night. No thank you from my daughter for any of it. She looked totally depressed walking to school on her birthday. Her face is permanently miserable. When I ask her she just says that’s how her face is.
We remind her every night to brush teeth more than once and she often doesn’t do it. Never tidies her bed even though I nag and we have set up pocket money weekly if she does three simple tasks (to include tidying bed) and even this isn’t motivation. She doesn’t want to be active and is quite obsessed with food. Is rude to her brother which then sets him off being upset or now that he’s older he retaliates and shouts at her. If he starts talking to her she can be quite mean.
There is so much I know i’ll forget a lot here!!!
I gave them an after school treat the other day of an oreo donut, she had hers and her brother didn’t want his so she ate it, without even asking without thought. (entitled?)
She can be very dramatic and possessive if her brother comes in her room she will go mad and if he gets past her door and goes to look at something the whole house knows about it. She slammed the door so hard one day she smashed his toe in quite bad. I felt awful for him as he was only bringing her up her gummy vitamin. She get dramatic and sometimes cries when she has to bath and wash her hair.
Likes to try and make me feel bad/guilty/rubbish mum with comments.
Example β€œIt’s pancake day next week” so I reply with I know, what toppings shall we do. She then comments with β€œwe never do pancake day” to try and make me feel bad and I ask her why she’s saying that because since the beginning of time i’ve always made pancake day a big thing.
Theres a lot of β€œwhy don’t you do this” or β€œmy friends mum lets her have this why don’t you”,
or good example I got her a new hoodie she wanted and there was a tiny tiny mark on the sleeve which must’ve been from something in the bag or similar. The first thing she says is β€œwhy is there a mark on it”. It’s constant and I think what is the point here. It’s a battle and I just can’t see what i’m doing wrong here. Am I messing her up some how??
Her dad says she is very much the same at his house.

I have spoken to her teacher and her behaviour / effort at school is exemplary - β€œrole model pupil” she doesn’t have any proper friends at her school and often by her choosing sits on the bench at school on her own.

We have talked in depth with her so much about things to try and see what’s going on and how we can help. This happens at least once a week. But nothing changes. She has one on one time with me too.

I just feel nothing is good enough but then on the flip side i’m wondering if she’s just massively depressed?

I just want her to be happy and content.
I had a horrid childhood myself so I doubt and question my parenting all the time because I don’t want any of my children growing up hating me and needing therapy like I did!!
I am overly protective of my children i’m guilty of that. But I know i’m very emotionally available for them, i’m present and affectionate and loving and materially they are very lucky and want for nothing.

This whole thing with my daughter is becoming a daily conversation now and it affects the dynamic of the house. I hate to say when she is at her dad’s the house is a lot more harmonious. Which is really really sad.

Sorry it’s long. I just really need advice at this stage because I don’t know what to do anymore.

OP posts:
CautiousLurker2 · 09/03/2026 12:07

Combination of both? Very likely that puberty is rushing headlong into this and she probably really doesn’t understand why she feels the way she does - or behaves this way.

I think your first step is to arrange therapy - and family therapy might be part of the package - and then look at sanctions on poor behaviour in consultation with the therapist.

Freedomsjustanotherword · 09/03/2026 12:12

Hormones are likely playing a part, as is anticipated transition to secondary school. But the biggest negative influence in her life sounds to be her unsupervised phone use. Of course 11 year olds want to spend all day on an iPhone. In the same way that they'd probably like to eat ice cream for every meal, but we wouldn't let them to that just because they liked it and wanted to.

Dramatically reduce phone time eg to half an hour a day and go from there.

mustwashmycurtains · 09/03/2026 12:17

Not dissimilar situation and child age here. I doubt it’s your home set up particularly. The hormonal and mood changes started for mine at ten. Moody and a bit sad, and also embrassedabout everything possible.

Please be wary of too much screen time without supervision. I’ve seen it really affect a young teen and their whole family. My DC is on screens far too much, I’m not judging, but don’t let them be online in private in their room at this stage. She’s learning to shut you out and that lack of supervision means you can’t protect her. Even if nothing bad being viewed it leads to mood swings based purely in the iPhone addiction dopamine hits & withdrawal.
this is likely a combination of phone plus hormones. I don’t think it’s your family but if she’s a bit spoilt and you stop indulging her so much, that should help. Not easy but easier now than at 13 or 15

gostickyourheadinapig · 09/03/2026 12:26

I suggest a) taking the phone off her and not giving it back until she's gained some maturity and b) telling her brother to stay out of her room.

Busybeemumm · 09/03/2026 12:29

Materially she is probably spoilt. She has an iphone, tablet etc and wants for nothing. She spends a lot of time on her phone (which has parental controls on) and has an absolute fit if I reduce her time on it. She would happily spend 24/7 on her phone in her room. Nothing else matters!!!

The phone is the issue here. Let her be a child and take away the phone. If she walks to and from school then for safety reasons get her a brick phone

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 09/03/2026 12:33

Hormones and puberty play a part here. Re hygiene and not brushing her teeth, nag her about the teeth and maybe about the hygiene too.

FlowerFairyDaisy · 09/03/2026 12:33

Did she show any remorse when she 'smashed her brothers toe in'? I would be very worried if not.

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 09/03/2026 12:37

i really think the phone will be having a huge impact. You need to take it off her. Year 6 children don’t need iPhones.

Iloveagoodnap · 09/03/2026 12:45

I would love to observe how she and her brother interact. I have known loads of β€˜eldest’ children always getting into trouble for being unkind to a younger sibling when actually it’s the younger one who has prompted the unkind response by their behaviour. She probably feels like the younger ones are the golden children and she is the outsider. And this won’t be helped by allowing the brother in her room. If you know she feels strongly about him coming in then why is it not a rule that he is not allowed in? And punish him/tell him off if he breaks that rule.

You say this is a β€˜daily conversation’ now. Between who? Are you asking her all the time why she’s miserable? I would try and accept her for who she is and just not mention your concerns to her. Yes if she’s really rude pull her up on that, but little things try and ignore or treat lightly. For example, I understand it upset you when she mentioned the mark on the hoodie you bought, but on the flip side if she’d been looking forward to receiving it and it was marked that must have been disappointing. I would have tried to empathise with her and said something like β€˜Oh no! That’s a shame, but I think it’s just dirt so I’m sure it will wash out. Shall I put it in the washing machine right now?’

Morepositivemum · 09/03/2026 13:53

BillieWiper
Yeah she is spoilt. And yes it's you and your h and ex h's fault. She's got you wrapped round her little finger!
Hardly reaping the rewards if she isn’t happy though is she? Even if she’s faking depression it must be exhausting and hitting her mentally and negatively. Join that with the fact she’ll be hitting puberty soon it’s very sad

CelticSilver · 09/03/2026 14:03

She feels 'othered'. Her siblings have a safe family unit. Hers is fragmented.

Onelifeonly · 09/03/2026 19:56

I don't think many year 6 children actually like being alone a lot (I work in a primary school). Something has gone wrong socially. At that age they like to have small groups of close friends (often 4 to 5) and they are much more susceptible to peer pressure. Could she be being bullied? With online access this could be happening where no adult can see it - it's pretty common for girls tp make mean comments on social media or kick other girls out of chat groups. What do school say about her peer relationships?

I'd say it's pretty normal to find younger brothers annoying though, especially with the onset of puberty where one's view of life / feelings change drastically. I still recall my younger brother saying I'd become boring as I didn't want to play the same games anymore.

Instead if asking her how she feels - she might not know or maybe not want to tell you - you can "wonder " if she is feeling x. And suggest reasons for this based on your observations. It can be quite a powerful technique. Focus on feelings you observe over actions you dislike. It's easy for a prepubescent child to feel judged and found wanting by parental concerns.

Don't allow the bad behaviour but try to have a positive, 'come on, we need to do this' attitude rather than moaning about what she hasn't done. And yes limit the phone use.

minipie · 09/03/2026 20:01

Take the bloody phone away. She is year 6.

DaisyChain505 · 09/03/2026 20:02

Ditch the phone. This screams of phone addiction. No year 6 needs a phone or to be spending that much time online or on tech.

Fedupofthisgame · 09/03/2026 20:19

I feel for you OP. My 11 year old but in Y7 is very similar in behaviour but she's also not motivated in school either even though she's extremely bright and in top sets of most things. It's interesting hearing the advice on here. I wonder if mine has issues because of screen time.

EvieBB · 09/03/2026 21:41

Purplebasil · 09/03/2026 11:19

Hi πŸ‘‹

Yes it was exactly that, play therapy. My daughter really enjoyed the sessions with her.

I can imagine it’s hard on children in a blended family. I just feel like I do everything to make it the best environment but i’m getting it wrong somehow and I just want her to be happy.

https://www.troubledkidsrealsolutions.radiantrecovery.com/

This may be a bit out on a limb, but when you mentioned the fact she ate her brother's Oreo doughnut without asking....and has irrational moods and sadness despite having a lot of 1 21 attention etc it made me think that this plan may be worth considering....? πŸ‘†πŸ»
The adult version has been a Godsend for me emotionally (over the last nearly 20 yrs) and has helped my kids also ......even if you don't follow it to the letter. Maybe worth a read? X

Troubled Kids, Real Solutions

https://www.troubledkidsrealsolutions.radiantrecovery.com

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