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"i is for indian" apparently.

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DuffyFluckling · 01/05/2009 17:52

I gritted my teeth when dd's nursery did 'jungle week' and made lions and giraffes (grr - lions and giraffes live ON THE SAVANNAH, not in the jungle).

But now she has come home with a lovely, gluey, sparkley feathered head dress because letter of the week is i, and "i is for indian".

I have decided that I like the nursery because it is a safe and gentle place for her. I am a far bigger influence on her life than they are. I don't love it but I can live with it.

What would other mners think?

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PortoPandemico · 01/05/2009 20:31

My dd did a whole thing about "red" indians at school recently. They made costumes, hats with feathers, and a totem pole. She is 5. I will explain to her about native americans at some point in the future, but in the meantime I cannot be doing with total PCness.

I have enough trouble as she believes that anyone with brown skin comes from Africa or India. Trouble is, her school is near Nato. Her class mates really DO come from Africa and India and a host of other nations (along with a few indiginous Belgians). It doesn't make explanations very easy....

ash83 · 01/05/2009 20:41

my two sons are both asian and native american mix (3 and 5 mths) there are much worse things they can be called than indian. i dont think there was any harm in this. although a boy at my soons play group did ask why my eldest sons skin was brown and my youngest sons wasnt.i decided not to go into the whole mixed race thing and just told my son to tell the boy that he was chocolate like daddy and his brother was coffee like mummy(what else could i say)

girlandboy · 01/05/2009 20:44

Are you sure they are not just using a bit of the NATO phonetic alpabet? like this

It's just that I use it. I know I used to work in the airline industry, but I knew it all beforehand.

I is for India

mrz · 02/05/2009 18:09

/i/ is for Indian is technically (if not politically) correct but /i/ is for ice cream is wrong I'm afraid.

katiestar · 04/05/2009 19:11

Maybe they should have done 'I' is for Inuit rhen ?

mrz · 04/05/2009 19:19

I think where they went wrong was making feathered head dresses for Indians

AddictedtoCrunchies · 05/05/2009 15:11
Hmm
branflake81 · 11/05/2009 15:45

why is i for ice cream wrong?

mrz · 12/05/2009 19:31

Ice cream starts with the "ie" phoneme not the "i" when teaching reading and writing.

bigchris · 12/05/2009 19:33

it's preschool though
they arent tewaching reading and writing just recognising letters
2 yr old dd has an abc book and it has i is for ice cream

mrz · 12/05/2009 19:46

If they are taught i is for ice cream then when they start to read and write they will have established misconceptions.
The guidance is that pre schools should teach the phonemes but not link them to the actual letter recognition. There are lots of books that are published for young children that are misleading I'm afraid.

hf128219 · 12/05/2009 19:50

Well if it was the phonetic alphabelt J would be Juliet.

I think we should just let children be children.

spottedandstriped · 15/05/2009 18:58

lions and giraffes do live on the savannah and not the jungle - I think this is being more accurate.

spottedandstriped · 15/05/2009 18:59

sorry misread your post

Blu · 15/05/2009 19:10

Is letting children be children based on giving them completely innacurate information, then?

Duffy - I would be wincing at the sparkley feathered headdress...but taking comfort from the fact that I had the full 'red indian' fancy dress and 'wigwam' as a child, and still reliably grew up to be someone who winces at the sparkly headdress and the lingering terminology!

isenhart7 · 20/05/2009 16:57

"I is for igloo, ice cream and Indian." I'm with mrz on this and also I think it's a problem that igloo and ice cream are inanimate objects as are, I suspect, the remainder of the examples given to the children. Would "N is for nail, nutmeg and Negro" be acceptable? As the sole people represented in a string of things?

procrastinatingparent · 20/05/2009 17:05

DS2 has just come back from nursery school having learned about the Inuit - and this is in deepest darkest whitest Surrey at a very middle-class nursery school.

isenhart7 · 20/05/2009 17:34

So, come to think of it, the letters could correspond to animals as well as inanimate objects so the children could be learning a series something like: apples, bears, cabbages, donuts, elephants, figs, goats, houses, Indians... So I guess the question is more likely to be: would "N is for nutmeg, newt, and Negro" be okay?

What about, and this is my favorite that I've come up with so far, "J is for jaguars, jam, and Japanese."

isenhart7 · 20/05/2009 17:40

"W is for wombats, wigwams and women."

isenhart7 · 20/05/2009 17:42

"M is for mice, men, and money." Well, I guess you get the idea. Perhaps I should write an alphabet book then.

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