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Nursery likes and dislikes

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TheFutures · 28/10/2016 09:33

Hi mums I was intrigued and wanted to find out what mums love about their child's nursery and what they believe should be different. Asking as I have become a nursery manager and would like to make a few changes.
Appreciate your comments thanks

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Maquiladora · 17/11/2016 04:52

Actually, Tiggy, I'd love to know your options on the matters you raised.

OlennasWimple · 17/11/2016 05:39

I suspect that English is not the OP's first language

TiggyD · 17/11/2016 07:59

May not be OlennaS, but an educational establishment needs to write things properly. The OP may need to delegate writing things that get seen externally to somebody more able.

Maquiladora, I could go on for hours on those topics but here's a quick taster:
Reggio. Love it. The unhurried child centred-ness of it, and the importance of the environment. I particularly like the rule about children must be able to out of windows. Should be made compulsory in the country.

Free hours and minimum wage rise. The sector is screwed. No idea how it will succeed. I assume a huge number of private nurseries will opt out causing chaos and an end to the thing, or they'll allow top-ups. Restricting money in while increasing money out won't work.

Neutral decor. How many children need exciting verses calming down? Can be over done, but a good thing. Children shouldn't be distracted by wall and doors in lime green and orange. Displays and art should stand out.

Continuous Planning WHEN DONE RIGHT is great. It frees up so much staff time to do target individual children and help them with their development. After you try it you'll never go back to the old ways.

TheFutures · 18/11/2016 09:05

Tiggyd
I am not open to negative comments I honestly do not need criticism just need new ideas .....so please can those that just want to give their opinions on likes and dislikes of their child's nursery will be much appreciated.
I work with children 3 and under my grammar and punctuation is irrelevant my passion and dedication for the children is what matters. Luckily there's a spell check on word! and yes English is my second language.

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TheFutures · 18/11/2016 09:09

Maquiladora
You are great thank you for the support i can see you have good intentions! if you have a child 3 or under I would like to offer you a placement at my nursery free of charge is there a way I can send you my details through private message?

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TheFutures · 18/11/2016 09:28

Everybody why is hard to state the obvious and why do I get Criticised for it! I do not think it is right but unfortunately this is the facts!

you won't find a uni graduate going into childcare where they are going to get paid silly money all the effort of studying to earn 1000 a month!
Lets be honest there's more staff that have GCSEs than degrees in childcare

I'm speaking of London not sure how nurseries operate outside London

it's the truth instead of arguing "how can you think like that, that's wrong"..we need to be thinking of solutions for improvement

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TheFutures · 18/11/2016 09:35

Please I honestly am not here to upset anyone or be rude like I said I'm a new manager I love my children I'm trying many ways to improve childcare at my nursery
It's a learning progress I should be pro by the time I retire xx

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TheFlounder · 18/11/2016 09:53

I would advise not over doing it on apprentices. Have maybe one in each room and have high expectations from them. You set the bar, don't accept anything less than the children deserve. If you put the time and effort in with an apprentice you will be rewarded with a good employee at the end. Some nurseries go through apprentices like toilet paper and the continuity of care suffers terribly.

Speak to local providers of meat, veg and fruit. I've worked in two nurseries where they had free fruit delivered and got cheaper meat from a butchers just by asking. Quality food is hugely important especially for the full time children who will get the majority of their food from the setting.

Ensure high quality resources in the garden, this doesn't have to be expensive. A mud kitchen (Ikea play kitchen with old pots, pans and spoons), a water wall with bottles and guttering, bug hotel etc. Make sure the children are getting outside everyday, there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing.

Give the staff some creative freedom, we used to take great pride in making lovely 'areas of learning' with what we had available. Also encourage them to change the setting up regularly. Rotate toys, change displays etc.

The tapestry app is fantastic and saves a lot of time on the learning journal paper work. Try and maintain a good level of spelling and grammar when sending the obs home. It does make a difference.

Sorry for the essay, I hope some of this is useful.

TinyTear · 18/11/2016 10:13

in London:

have separate playgrounds/areas for the younger kids so they don't get trampled by the older ones outside

go outside every day

for the babies have a separate sleeping area with their own cots - bunk cots are good if there is lack of space, older toddlers sleep in mats after lunch all together

cuddle them and let them nap on you if they need

a quiet area is good they can retreat to...

have free flow toys they can pick and choose

names and photos on their pegs so they start to recognise it

older children have a big alphabet carpet and make games about sitting on their initial. my eldest learnt the alphabet like that

insancerre · 18/11/2016 13:43

you won't find a uni graduate going into childcare where they are going to get paid silly money all the effort of studying to earn 1000 a month!
Lets be honest there's more staff that have GCSEs than degrees in childcare

That's not true!

I know plenty of people with degrees who work in early years, I've got a degree and I employ 2 others with degrees, and in our company of 6 nurseries, there are graduates and qualified teachers in all of them

Maquiladora · 18/11/2016 14:01

Tiggy - thanks for your answers. The 'unhurried child centredness' of Reggio sounds wonderful Smile

TiggyD · 18/11/2016 18:42

I still disagree about written language. You'll be writing a lot of policies that have to be clearly understood, as well as reports to other bodies, references, etc etc.

Anyway,

Good staff. First, second and thirdly you need good staff. It doesn't matter what ideas you have if the people responsible for putting them into practice are poor, the nursery will be poor. There will be times when you need to fill a position but all the people who apply are poor to average. Do you give one the job or do you keep paying £15 per hour for supply staff and hope to find a better person?
Good staff like to work with other good staff. Employ poor ones and the good ones will start leaving. Some managers ask "why do the good ones leave?". Answer, because they can. Good staff can get other work easily. There are loads of positions and few great members of staff so they will go where they get paid more, conditions are better and they can do what they love, childcare, without hassle.

Fourthly, those good staff want to do good work. Help them. I worked in a nursery that had a welly bucket. The children would go there and take their shoes off and get their wellies. Except they couldn't. The bucket was too deep and full. Because of that a member of staff had to stay by the bucket and help the children find their wellies for half an hour in the morning and half an hour in the afternoon. A welly rack would have cost £100 for a big enough one. Expensive? Paying the member of staff £8 per hour, 5 hours per week, over 3 months of wet winter days costs about £450.
But it's not the waste of money that irritated me the most with that system. It was the fact a good, trained member of staff was spending an hour a day doing the job of a piece of furniture instead of helping children to hold a pencil, read books, encouraging a child to try a new experience, etc.
Help staff do the job they love easily. Can children hang up and fetch their own coats themselves? Many nurseries' pegs are so crowded they can't do it themselves which means a member of staff spends an hour a day, etc etc.
Is all the art stuff easy to get to, or is the paper stacked so you have to spend half an hour un-piling and re-piling it up to get a single sheet of blue paper?
Do you have an electric pencil sharpener? Means more time with the children.

And talking of pencils, one of my tips for parents looking for a good nursery is to check to see if the pencils are useable. They get forgotten so easily. Yes, nice varied areas around the nursery is good, but are the areas set up and really useable for the children? The areas need to be evaluated constantly to make sure the standard of them doesn't slip. Is there ALWAYS paint in the pots? Is there ALWAYS sand in the sandpits? Are the books ALWAYS in good condition without torn out or missing pages? It's the basics. And it's the basics like those that matter to the children who are trying to use the nursery.

And regular doughnuts for staff. Grin

Primaryteach87 · 18/11/2016 18:49

Love: -
-Small setting
-collecting him from the room he is based in with staff who have enough time to chat through his day

  • Experienced (not teen) staff
-lots of time outdoors

Don't like
-billing issues so I have to waste time checking it

  • I don't get things home very often (don't want to be inundated but there's a happy medium)
  • they don't have parents evenings.
Primaryteach87 · 18/11/2016 18:52

Forgot to say the obvious but most important thing! The staff show they care about my child. Lots of cuddles, pride in his achievements etc.

Joinourclub · 18/11/2016 18:53

Lots of outdoor play
Very friendly, lovely, positive staff
Feedback at end of day
High quality meals provided
Wide range of activities
Photos on parent portal
After hours events for bonfire night etc
Clean bright, light rooms
Term time only places available

TheFutures · 20/11/2016 15:51

Tiggyd
That's great thank you appreciate your comment I agree with the points mentioned time spent should be beneficial to the children
Thank you

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