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OK, really confused now about cheese, what IS the rules on ENGLISH GOATS CHEESE?? Is it safe?

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Hopeitwontbebig · 03/04/2007 14:21

I have been searching the net to try and find the answer to this, there seems to be contradictory information regarding goats cheese and whether it's safe to eat in pregnancy. Some websites say yes, some no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really fancy goats cheese and sun dried tomatoes on roasted sliced potatoes......yummmmmmmmmmm

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WideWebWitch · 03/04/2007 14:22

I would eat it. All cheese is fine cooked btw as cookign kills listeria.

Hopeitwontbebig · 03/04/2007 14:23

Cool, thanks wicked!

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BetsyBoop · 03/04/2007 14:46

the cheeses you have to avoid is either made from unpasturised milk and/or mould riped (blue cheeses or camebert/brie type cheese with the mould "skin")

so as long as it's not one of these it's fine & as WW says so long as it's cooked to a high enough temp any cheese is fine.

Mrsjaffabiffa · 03/04/2007 15:55

Eat it and enjoy..... cook it well and all will be fine. I eat mould ripened pasturised goats cheese at least 3 times a week, I have it on french bread with honey on top, bubbled under the grill. It's my VERY favorite. Yummmmmmm Yummmmmmm

I am 34 weeks pg BTW, We are lucky ladies in France, we don't have all these mind blowing restrictions, it's about being sensible.

Clydesdaleclopper · 03/04/2007 16:05

Apparently the issue with goats cheese is that goats milk can sometimes contain toxoplasmosis. I'm not sure if this is killed by cooking like listeria.

MrsBadger · 03/04/2007 16:09

where did you hear that about goats' milk and toxo? [mind boggles]

it's fine if it's pasteurised, and if it's not pasteurised you shouldn't be having it anyway!

Cyee · 03/04/2007 16:10

Just to echo what other said on here - even pasteurized goats cheese with a rind on should be cooked thoroughly here. Soft goats cheese with no rind is fine as long as its pasteurized.

MrsJaffabriffa - I am so jealous of the Euro approach although GP pal tells me that it's because the French mainly have an immunity to listeria as opposed to a different view on safety.

Either way I LOVE grilled goats cheese and have been eating it hot throughout my pg.

Hopeitwontbebig · 03/04/2007 16:14

OK, I've copied this from www.babycentre.co.uk
I'd presume they're a reliable source of information. Please say if you disagree!!

Which cheeses are safe to eat when you're pregnant, and which aren't?

Anna McGrail answers:

Cheese is an important source of protein and calcium for pregnant women but certain kinds do need to be avoided. Pregnant women are advised not to eat soft, mould-ripened cheeses, such as brie or camembert, and blue-veined cheeses, such as danish blue and stilton. This is because these cheeses are more inclined to allow growth of bacteria, such as listeria, which can harm your unborn child.

However, thorough cooking should kill any listeria, so it should be safe to eat food containing soft mould-ripened or blue-veined cheeses, provided the food has been properly cooked and is piping hot all the way through.

In healthy adults, infection with listeria can cause a short-lived flu-like illness. Pregnant women, however, can be hit harder by listeria, for the same reason you are more susceptible to everything during pregnancy: your immune system isn't working as well. Symptoms usually develop several weeks after exposure to the bacteria, which can make it hard to pinpoint exactly which food made you sick. Symptoms may include fever, chills, muscle aches and back pain. Doctors diagnose listeria infection by swabbing a sample from your vagina and cervix and checking your blood. Antibiotics will treat the infection. Newborns can also be tested and treated.

Listeria infection in pregnant women is very rare in the UK, only affecting one in 20,000 pregnancies. Provided you avoid foods with a high risk, you are very unlikely to be affected.

Unpasteurised cheeses imported from abroad or made by small producers are also safe to eat in pregnancy provided they are made from cow's milk and are not mould-ripened or blue-veined. The Food Standards Agency states that listeria is present in these cheeses in very low numbers and they are therefore not considered a risk during pregnancy. On the other hand, unpasteurised milk (from any animal) is not considered safe. In the USA, pregnant women are advised to avoid feta cheese because of the risk of listeria, but the feta cheese sold in the UK is considered safe to eat during pregnancy.

Cheeses which are SAFE to eat in pregnancy

Hard cheeses:
austrian smoked, Babybel, caerphilly, cheddar, cheshire, derby, double gloucester, edam, emmental, english goat's cheddar, feta (if bought in the UK), gouda, gruyere, halloumi, havarti, jarlsberg, lancashire, mozzarella, orkney, paneer, parmesan, pecorino (hard), provolone, red leicester.

Soft and processed cheeses:
Boursin, cottage cheese, cheese spread, cream cheese, mascarpone, philadelphia, quark, ricotta.

Yoghurts, fromage frais, soured cream and creme fraiche any variety, including natural, flavoured and biologically active are all safe to eat.

Cheeses to AVOID in pregnancy

Mould-ripened soft cheeses:
brie, blue brie, cambozola, camembert, chaumes, pont L'eveque, prince jean, tallegio. vacherin-fribourgeois, weichkaese.

Blue-veined cheeses:
bavarian blue, bergader, bleu d'Auvergne, blue shropshire, cabrales, Danish blue, dolcelatte, doppelrhamstuge, eldel pilz, gorgonzola, manchego, romano, roncal, roquefort, stilton, tommes, wensleydale (blue).

Soft unpasteurised goat and sheep's cheeses:
chabichou, pyramide, torta del cesar.

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Mrsjaffabiffa · 03/04/2007 17:17

Thats really useful. Feels good to know ie's safe when throughtly cooked.

cyee, I can see what your gp pal is saying, BUT I'm not intirely sure. If that was the case then why doesn't the advice take effect if you are not immune? Every person is tested at 12 weeks for the immunity to both and if it is negative then we are tested every mth. I don't disagree with you at all, I believe far more women over here are immune as it is much more widespread. I also believe though that the UK has to be SO careful with everything that they are obsessed with covering their backs for the minority. I just wish they wouldn't scare monger so much.

I was petrified when pg with ds in the UK, thought that by eating one prawn that would be the end. Of course it isn't like that at all, the risks are there, but they are tiny and as long as you are sensible about washing fresh produce, pasturised, cooking, sell by dates etc there is no need to panic.

Clydesdaleclopper · 03/04/2007 19:29

MrsBadger the info about goats milk and toxoplasma is in one of Miriam Stoppards books.

SweetyDarling · 04/04/2007 08:52

Concerning that Anna McGrail thinks mozzarella is a hard cheese!? Makes you wonder! Anyway, it is safe as it is boiled during the production process.

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