Pleeeeease help. This is turning into a nightmare - I feel mean - dd is thirsty, but we have to crack her being dry at night

[moodlum]

DD is nearly six, and is still in pull ups at night. She seems to have no concept of when she needs to go for a wee at night. I've tried (much against my better judgement) lifting her (twice last night) but surely that is counter productive? It doesn't teach her the right thing to do surely?

Today I made it clear from breakfast that she wouldn't be able to have a drink after bathtime at 6pm. She is now wailing because she's thirsty. She's had a lot to drink today, so I think she's putting it on, but it does feel mean depriving her of water.

How do I crack this? How did you do it? Shall invest in those £90 pants that set off an alarm when wet?

TIA

Scared - that's really helpful thank you.

it is definitely baout when the body id ready and not about the child not bothering
gecko has just turned three on the seventh of feb
she trained herself dry two week before her second birthday
day and night

she still bf;s every two ish hours all night
and has a cup of juice by her bed

she never wets the bed

she is amazing to me but its about the body being ready

my nearly 5 year old wets the bed most nights
she is just not ready

Thanks TR - how're you doing?

Reality, I don't tink you can ever call it laziness...there is always a reason...physiological or psychological. I don't think lazy is a fair word to use.

whilst I agree it's never really about laziness, there is an element of easiness to pee in pull ups and quite a few bedwetters will be aware that they are peeing, quite often early in the morning

I also agree if a child isn't ready, they will still wet the bed but there is a need for training too

It doesn't happen over night and I know a number of people that have tried for just 2/3 nights then stuck the pull ups back on. IME it takes 1/2 months for complete dryness in a child without added difficulties. My daughter has a physical disability which is why it was trickier but the method advised worked

I think being late in being dry at night is now more common due to the availability of pull ups. When I was a child, there weren't many of us (I wasn't dry at night til 9) and it was the same when my children were little

eric website with lots of into about bedwetting

Enuresis clinic will not be interested until child turns 7

good advice from scaredoflove

I would add:

don't lift at night - a waste of time

double or triple dress the bed - waterproof/bottom sheet, waterproof/bottom sheet to make nocturnal bed changes a doddle; whip off the wet ones and ta dah a fresh bed easy peasy

shower in the mornings for social reasons - we all remember going to school with the smelly child

Good luck, been there and come out the other side

I'm ok moodlum
well we are alive
I'm asking for help though and mumsnet is being amazing

Dd is 8 and still wet at night. Ds is almost 4 and has been dry at night for almost 2 years now. He has a drink before he goes to bed and all. Doesn't seem to matter one bit.

Will be trying again with Dd when it gets a bit warmer. Till then still in pull-ups. (I try every summer for few months and pack it in when it starts to get colder.) Last year we were in India for 2 months and she was dry there. I thought we had cracked it but apparently not. It all came back when we came back to the UK. It was probably the much hotter weather over there - everything she drank was sweated out...

If it's really too-arsed-to-get-up then why not have a thingy with a lid for near the bed and see if that works? Or is that too gross?

Sweetgrapes - we noticed DS was better in the Summer Hols, and it is because they ARE hotter they drink more, which really helps.

Also, they drink more at home as can drink when they like rather than at school break times etc.

DD1 was in pull-ups at night until about 5.3

Then lifted for about 6m (because she refused the pull-up and didn't like wetting the bed)

Stopped lifting a coiple of months before her 6th birthday. Wet the bed 2-3 times a week, but had dry nights too

I stopped juice and squash after 3pm (only has milk or water), and has MASSIVELY reduced the amount of wet beds... can count about 3 since December last year

Thanks for your advice all.

I'm going to try cold turkey with no pull ups. Am going to keep lifting just to see. (if only to prove mil that it is not a useful habit, as it is one she is very keen on)
Am going to not give juice or squash after 3pm.
Am going to triple dress the bed ready for action.

If none of the above works, I'm going to go back to pull ups until its sunnier, and maybe work on ds in the meantime. Oh joy.

What slightly complicates things is dd's persistent habit of waking up at around 4 and coming into our bed. That was a lovely thing to wake up to this morning - a wet bed. shall I crack that first?

Agree with no pull ups and double dressing the bed.

If she gets up at 4, put her on the loo and back in her own bed.

Only one of my 3 were dry at night before 6 or 7 and ds was a good bit older than that.

I did resort to putting a couple of chocolate buttons on the top of the loo cistern for dd once I thought that she'd pretty much cracked it but just needed further encouragement. Bribery is not everyone's idea of good parenting but hey ho, an immediate reward worked better than star chart.

I see that a few people have mentioned no juice.

We find that with DD it is blackcurrant juice that is the biggest culprit.

Only noticed it when she wet the bed several times when on holiday in Scotland, realised that mum was giving her fruit shoots (oh the shame, to admit that on MN)

Oh dear lord - I can't believe you thought witholding fluid from her would solve this! Very relieved to see you are operating other strategies.

good luck

I think you were just following what is fairly standard advice from most HV - that is, to restrict drinks for an hour or so before bedtime.

I am struggling with the whole nighttime thing too - DD is 5 and a half and stopped wearing pull-ups at night at Christmas. I lift her when I go to bed but we still have wet beds around 40% of the time, either before I lift or some time later in the night. I use the Pampers Bed mats and put them over the top of her sheet so all I have to do is change pj's and put a new bed mat on. All I have done really is to swap pull-ups for bed mats but she feels better for not wearing pull-ups and I feel it is a step in the right direction.

Hope this helps a bit.

Pammy.

Thanks Pammy that does help. I'm also using the bed mats, and I think I'll do the same as you - just putting them on the bed rather than underneath the sheets. Do you find that the dye from the printed pictures on the sheet comes off onto the bed? Annoying.