September 14 babies - bring on the weaning!

[KitKat1985]

New thread for the Sept 14 babies. :)

Re teething and sleep.

With DC2 the very night he cut his first tooth was the first night he slept through. He was almost exactly 6 months at the time.

I'd noticed his first tooth that day. The following night he woke a couple of hours earlier than he normally would (he was EBF) and because I knew he was teething I sort of had a reason not to feed, because I figured he was waking because of teething not hunger. So just settled him back to sleep with the dummy. As it turned out that was his only wake up that night. Because I hadn't taken the easy route to sleep and breastfed him, I discovered that he could sleep 7-7 without a feed and it marked the start of me stopping to feed him at night.

So teething doesn't need to mean less sleep, it could mean more

Holls, is he happy singing to himself? Do you have to get up and try the dummy/feeding. A quite often wakens up and chatters to himself and if I leave him he is happy enough, and often goes back to sleep. I know when he is ready to get up as the chatter changes and seems more grumpier, its hard to explain really.

If he does seem happy, and it is just that it is disturbing you, is he in his own room yet? That may help if not.

cumbrian I would leave him to it (he is in own room) but it's really really loud!!! may try a dreamfeed, good idea

Sorry for all the mums having bad nights. Jessica's been a tad better the past couple of nights (up 1-2 times rather than 4+). Fingers crossed it lasts!

I just had a funny 5 mins. Have been worrying for a while about Jessica not rolling yet. I popped upstairs (taking DH a sandwich) and left her on her back on a mat in the lounge. I came back down after about a minute and looked over her way and she was on her front. Whilst I stood there from the hallway mentally debating whether I had just remembered wrong and actually put her on her front, she then rolled from her tummy back onto her back. If I had been 10 seconds slower coming downstairs I never would have known that she had rolled at all. I now keep thinking back to that Little Britain duo from years ago and imagine that every time I've left the room the past few weeks she's been rolling, walking and doing cartwheels whilst my back has been turned, only to return to the same position as soon as I've come back in the room.

Haha Kitkat! Did she smile all sweet and innocently at you too?

Speaking of rolling has anyone got any tips for changing the nappy on an Incredible Rolling Baby? DS is now doing it constantly which is ever so slightly irritating.

Ah Holls, loud isn't good! I bet it seems louder too because you are so tired. Vicious circle! I can usually sleep through DH snoring, but when I am struggling to sleep for other reasons his snoring seems sooo much louder than normal.

Anyone suffering with wind problems while teething? A has all the normal signs of teething, but for the last week or so (since the other signs became more noticeable) he is really struggling to bring his wind up. Have gone back to using gripe water before every feed, and holding him upright. But most afternoons, just before his 3rd bottle of the day, I am getting uncontrollable screaming fits, and it seems to be purely wind, as once we get that up he calms down massively. He is suffering through his other bottles too, and we are getting more sick up than usual. Anyone got any advice other than the gripe water?

Red B has just started turning onto his side whilst having a nappy change. it is fun. certainly adds a new dimension especially when they are vvv poo filled.

Evening all! Jessica is now waking twice a night on average.... usually 1 am and then 5.30am when I bring her into my bed for a feed and snooze till 7.30 am. This is an improvement!

But that's after anywhere between 2 and 4 (!) hours trying to get her to go to sleep in her cot in the first place. Any tips for teaching her to self settle more quickly? She can do it but it's a long hard battle of wills it seems. I give her a muslin as a comforter which she likes to suck sometimes and I put her musical/light up seahorse next to her head. Then I have to bend over the crib and let my hair fall around her face and talk to her in a soothing voice (for hours!) and eventually she does fall asleep.

I've just ordered a sling.... its a wacotto and looks very simple to use, can be worn as a scarf and folds up really small. Anyone else heard of these?

top, I discovered ds could self settle by accident. I used to lie with him and shh pat when he got upset, but had to pop out one night to see dp and he wasn't bothered. so I stayed out and he fell asleep. it's still hit and miss, but I think he likes to be alone when going off to sleep. he loves his muslin. acorn, we r co-sleeping out of desperation. I def dont want him in my bed as a toddler, but with at least 4 wake ups a night, I figure I just have to do what I can to survive now & will deal with any 'rods' i have made later. I think we may have had a bit of success with a formula top up at dream feed time. need to see if ebm is as effective

Top - I'd actually say that's too much stimulation for sleep - muslin tickling face and being sucked, music, seahorse light, hair on face, talking. That's a lot going on when baby is wanting to go to sleep.

I would par it right down to the absolute essentials - something to suck, a reassuring touch (your hand on lightly chest) and a gentle shush if needed. Plus obviously making sure she isn't hungry.

I don't understand the use of music/light etc since these are distractions and stimulating. I get that in a perfect world they act as a sleep que, but if they aren't acting as a sleep que then they are more unhelpful than useful.

You're probably right Fate. The seahorse has worked before for nap times but it is quite loud really. I will try without it and see if things improve. Thing is though she gets so hysterical immediately that I can barely hear my own voice so the seahorse music sometimes distracted her as it was loud enough to be heard over her crying. She eventually went to sleep about 9.45 pm. Probably not meant to but I picked her up a few times to calm her down and gave her yet more boob. I might just not bother trying to get her in bed before 9 as she never settles alone before then but does sleep on me, so I know she's tired.

Has anyone read/used the no cry sleep solution book? I was thinking of buying it.

top, I read ncss. it's basically about not feeding to sleep - pull bipple/bottle out just b4 they fall asleep & then earlier & earlier until you are putting them down drowsy but awake & u gradually change ur routine until u can put them down and leave, eg sit by cot, sit by door etc. also says babies this age need 4-6 hrs of naps ( seems a lot) & they should be at least an hr so try to feed them back to sleep or whatever until they get into a pattern of longer naps. and baby should have bedtime routine & an hr of quiet time / low lights before bed.

Thanks Beccus. She does not nap that much by a long stretch. Don't think she wants to, she's too interested in the world. I'll try and induce a longer nap with the pram today, though I'm so tired I don't much feel like walking ha! Well I had to co sleep last night as she got hysterical even just with the motion of me lowering her into the cot. It was ok as I have a king sized bed and hubby was working nights but he's not tonight so she just has to sleep in her cot!

What is a bipple?

Oh, wait a minute. Just realised that N is next to B on the keyboard

Bec thanks for that excellent summary. You saved me some money.

Last night somebody gave my son back! Just up once around 4 and then 7 when I took him to bed to snooze for an hour or so...

I for one shall be referring to my nipples as bipples from now on...

Who had pancakes yesterday? DP made savoury ones for dinner and sweet for pudding. Had sausage, cheese and egg in the savoury ones and one nutella and banana and one lemon and sugar for pudding - all scrummy!

hee hee lil. I thought it was some new fangled kind of dummy I'd never heard of

We had pancakes after supper last night and then more for breakfast this morning. We often have pancakes for breakfast though, so not all that special. But we don't usually have then for desert except for pancake day.

I am in big trouble, just went out for a two hours meeting; first time leaving ds with mil. Ds was hysterical. Not quite sure about the reason, my mil understanding of a baby is...somewhat.... How to put it.... Can't really find the word, sorry, cloudy? Not up to date? Basically she has forgotten all about a baby imho as not being around a baby for a looooooooongggg time, so can't ask her..

My big problem is he just does not take milk from a bottle (neither expressed nor formula), and does not take formula even from a cup. I don't quite know what to do but feel very very unprepared for going to work now... Should have tried to sort this ages ago.

I am in big trouble, just went out for a two hours meeting; first time leaving ds with mil. Ds was hysterical. Not quite sure about the reason, my mil understanding of a baby is...somewhat.... How to put it.... Can't really find the word, sorry, cloudy? Not up to date? Basically she has forgotten all about a baby imho as not being around a baby for a looooooooongggg time, so can't ask her..

My big problem is he just does not take milk from a bottle (neither expressed nor formula), and does not take formula even from a cup. I don't quite know what to do but feel very very unprepared for going to work now... Should have tried to sort this ages ago.

Red - Jessica didn't smile at all afterwards yesterday. She made no response to rolling at all. It was like she just does it all the time and was completely nonplussed! She rolled once today as well, so she clearly can do it, she's just not fussed about doing it!

Oh dear Nazly - how long do you have before you are back to work? Jessica is starting to get the idea of drinking from a cup, but only really has sips rather than a full feed. It's taken a bit of perseverance though just to get that far. Maybe try a bottle with a 'natural' style teat?

After another disturbed night (up 3 times for feeds) I'm finally relenting and thinking some solid food may help fill her tummy. So I'm cooking carrot and swede right now ready for mashing to a pulp, and bought some baby porridge. I'll try this weekend I think - she'll be just over 23 weeks this weekend so a tad early but not insanely so. Will see how it goes anyway. If it's a complete non starter there's no reason my mashed carrot and swede can't just stay in the freezer a couple of weeks until we are ready to try again.

So after weeks of lying on the floor encouraging DS to roll he finally did it tonight, twice! Unfortunately he waited until I'd popped out so I missed it. He'll probably wait ages to do it again now.

Kitkat I am back at work. Thats the problem. I asked for both half days and working from home and promised will increase the hours, time in the office. Accepted given I thought I'll cover all meetings :( how am I going to do that now

Rusty is the word

Oh and Kitkat, solid food did not help with sleep, if anything if made if worse. Whole new thing to get used to, more gas, etc.