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HazleNutt · 27/01/2014 10:08

It's time to move to Post-Natal clubs.

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Quodlibet · 05/02/2014 09:41

Hazel that is beyond shit, no idea how you function. Is he feeding every time or could your DH get up with him?

Cavort it's strange because she will happily go to sleep in the day, on me or in her pram, but in the evenings and now overnight we are getting this flailing/face clawing.
Can you lot reassure me - if at night she is fed, dry, I have attempted winding her and I put her down and she doesn't cry but just lies there wriggling and grunting and squeaking, am I alright to leave her to fall asleep eventually or should I be doing something? Part of me thinks: she's not crying so must be fine, but then I feel guilty going back to sleep while she is awake and looking unsettled. Or is there something else I should be trying?

Cavort · 05/02/2014 10:22

I was just about to launch into a moan about a crap night last night but after reading yours Hazle ours really wasn't that bad in comparison. Is V hungry at all of those wakings or can/does your DH do some of them? If DH is a heavy sleeper can you swap sides with him so he is closer to V and more likely to wake up? I can't imagine the torture of a day at work after a night like that Brew Brew Brew Flowers

Cavort · 05/02/2014 10:23

Quod if you are lucky enough to have an awake baby who does not disturb you then yes, enjoy some lovely sleep while she is awake!

Alexandra6 · 05/02/2014 10:45

God hazle that's rough Sad Thanks

mother I said no to the oral vaccine, she had both set of jabs but the nurse gave me the option on oral and mentioned it upsets the gut, and asked if S has a gut problem. I said she does have wind/reflux/tummy issues so I turned it down and said I would research what rotovirus is and weigh up whether she needs it or not. Her reflux really flared up yesterday and this morning so I'd prefer to leave that one unless it's a silly mistake. Let me know if anyone knows anything about that vaccine please.

HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 11:55

thanks, I'll manage. lol yes he has 2 teeth, but of course it could be more coming out.
He usually wants a feed or sometimes just a little rocking and is asleep again in minutes - unfortunately if I just leave him, he gets louder and wakes himself up entirely.
That's why DH can't really do much - if V was like a friend's baby who was up for several hours every night, then sure I'd kick DH out of bed to deal with it. But in our case I'm awake anyway, so not efficient to wake DH too, who would definitely not get V back to sleep as quickly.
He will go to his own room tomorrow night, so then DH will help more.

Quod if she's otherwise fine and just squeaking then it's absolutely fine to let her squeak. V does his moaning and grunting every time before his daytime naps, usually falls asleep in a few minutes.

alex you said you want to see if dairy makes a difference, what do you think?

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HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 12:08

oh and he's now 73 cm and quickly growing out of the car seat, so we have to get a new one soon. cavort you have been checking out the Sirona as well - have you figured out how you are supposed to switch it between 2 cars? At the moment we have an isofix base in each car, so it's easy to click the carseat in. But I have not seen Sirona bases for sale separately, so you're supposed to istall the base every time you switch cars? Or do people normally buy a separate seat for each car?

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Alexandra6 · 05/02/2014 12:15

Really don't know on the dairy hazle - reintroduced it last week and had a settled wkend and lovely day on Monday, crap day yesterday. I'm not sure how long it takes to work through my system etc so I'm just trying not to eat too much, every day, and see how we get on over time.

I thought V was in his own room now, did you move him back in with you for a while?

Cavort · 05/02/2014 12:24

Funnily enough Hazle I have just ordered a Sirona this morning for delivery tomorrow.

During the reading up I have done on the Sirona, I have seen a couple of customer reviews saying that despite being quite heavy it is easily swapped between cars so we're just going to see how we get on with it. We did intend to buy 2 isofix bases for the Cabriofix but never got round to it so have spent the last 7 months swapping one isofix base between 2 cars and it really isn't much hassle, just takes a few seconds so FX the Sirona is the same.

HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 12:34

his room was wallpapered and DH is putting the furniture together as we speak, but we have not moved him (V, not DH) in there yet.

What colour did you get cav? and 2013 or 2014 model? I can't see any difference besides fabric (and price) between those two.

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Cavort · 05/02/2014 12:38

There was so much out of stocks everywhere and I couldn't be bothered to phone around so I just bought a Charcoal Black one from Mamas and Papas. Surely black is black, how much variation can there possibly be? Grin

HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 12:58

apparently thre's also pure black, so hopefully E does not mind Grin

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HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 12:59

Hm I can't decide between blue and red - DHs car is red, mine is blue..

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ZombiesAreClammyDodgers · 05/02/2014 13:08

hazle that's horrible. If it's teething have you tried teething gel?
DD woke up at two thirty and would not settle. Teething.
We searched for the calpol like crazy people (me holding her, as that was the only way she would stop crying) and couldn't find it. DH grumbled that he was sure I gad thrown it away after reading in the Daily Fail about some link between calpol for babies younger than 12 months and asthma. (I am suggestible and paranoid but not silly enough to throw away calpol!!) Of course DH had kept it safely tucked away on the windowsill on his side of the bed (which I discovered mid morning today).
Anyway we are now stocked up on teething gel for the night. Let's see what it brings!

BlearyeyedLol · 05/02/2014 13:13

So I take it the sirona is the best option according to which? I have been thinking about it too and was gonna ask you ladies for advice!
How much is it cav? Kiddicare have t for £375? Blimey!!

HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 13:21

I don't think it's teeth at the moment, he does not seem to be complaining. Growth spurt maybe?

Yes Sirona got good reviews. It's 400 eur over here, so 330.

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Cavort · 05/02/2014 13:22

Hazle my main opinion was that I wanted a dark one so I hopefully don't need to wash the cover as often lazy, but we have one white and one black car both with black interiors so getting a black one is a no brainer here.

Lol the Sirona is marginally the best ERF seat according to Which? There are a couple of others with similar scores but none of them are cheap. Angry Of course, if you are not fussed about ERF then there are loads of cheaper group 1 seats but with tests showing ERF being 5 times safer in the event of an accident my paranoia will not allow me to buy a forward facing seat.

HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 14:08

DH voted for red here, has been ordered. Expensive, but should last a few years now. I also want an ERF and I like the swivel that Sirona has, way easier to get baby in and out.

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Alexandra6 · 05/02/2014 19:49

Just a quick update on a waxing appointment with a baby - mission accomplished Wink All went well apart from when she kicked the lady doing the wax whilst lying across my chest

Looking forward to our first swimming class tomorrow. S is really cranky again today and choking/wheezing loads but I read jabs can make reflux flare up so it could be that.

HazleNutt · 05/02/2014 20:10

not my day here. I'm sleepy and keep bumping into things and dropping everything, but that's just a minor annoyance. V would not eat his veggies, actually spit them out. Then refused yogurt as well. Ok, took a break, played a little. Now he decides that he actually likes yogurt, ate the whole thing. So put him to bed, fed some milk, he was almost asleep and then..threw the whole dinner up. Sigh. Babies.

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BlearyeyedLol · 05/02/2014 21:56

Omg hazle you do deserve a medal!
I'm tired just thinking about your day!
Question on the car seat thing- what does the sirona have that justifies the price? I (think) I have seen other erf ones for under 200? Am I looking wrong? I'm happy to pay the price tbh but need to convince dh it's the right thing to do Grin

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers · 05/02/2014 22:13

ignoramus asks what's ERF?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers · 05/02/2014 22:14

Ah lightbulb moment. Extended rear facing!!

Cavort · 05/02/2014 22:18

Like Hazle, it was the 360 degree rotation which ultimately sold the Sirona to me. It's going to be so handy to be able to turn the seat 90 degrees to get E in and out of it.

Lol Which? have only tested 9 ERF seats so probably isn't a definitive list, but their results are as follows..

Cybex Sirona - 76% - £400
BeSafe iZi Kid X3 Isofix - 70% - £320
Britax Max-Fit - 69% - £275
BeSafe Izi Combi X3 Isofix - 62% - £350
Recaro Polaric Isofix - 60% - £205
Britax Max Way - 31% - £215 - Don't Buy
Volvo Convertible - 28% - £158 - Don't Buy
Joie Stages - 26% - £130 - Don't Buy
Axkid Kidzofix - 0% - £365 - Don't Buy

The Cybex Sirona child car seat is an eye-catching combination car seat for children from birth up to 18kg (approximately four years old). It can be used as an extended rearward-facing seat to 18kg or changed to face-forwards when your child reaches 13kg. Unusually, older children are held in place by an impact shield, rather than a harness. Some extended rear-facing seats can be a bit cramped for older kids We sent it to our lab to find out if the Sirona has plenty of space.

The Cybex Sirona is a good extended rearward-facing seat. If your child doesn't like facing backwards, it's also an excellent Group 1 forward-facing child car seat. It's the highest-scoring combination Group 0+/1 seat we've tested,and worth considering, but narrowly misses the marks required to be a Best Buy.

What is it?
A combination Group 0+/1 child car seat for babies from birth to 18kg (approximately four years). It's used rearward-facing from birth to 13kg, at which point you can either leave it rearward-facing, which reduces the strain on the head and neck in a crash, or turn the seat around on the base and use it forward-facing.

It's installed on a base that uses Isofix mounts to attach to the car. The Isofix base has a support leg to stop the seat pivoting forwards in a crash, which may make it unsuitable for use in some cars that have underfloor storage compartments or limited back-seat leg space.

You can't install it in your car with the adult three-point seatbelt.

The baby is restrained by a five-point harness with a one-pull adjustment strap when they are rearward-facing.

But if you turn the seat forward-facing you use an impact shield instead. This curved foam slide-in wedge fits snugly across the child's tummy and is held in place by buckles on either side of the shield. The child rolls forward around it in a crash, which reduces the strain on their neck.

How safe is it?
The Sirona is essentially two car seats in one. It scores 73% when used as a Group 0+ and 1 rearward-facing seat, providing excellent front-impact protection and good side-impact protection.

It's also good when used as a Group 1 forward-facing seat for older children, providing excellent front and side-crash protection, it scores 78% in this mode.

It's a good design for safety - the seat sits firmly on the car's seat and the harness/impact shield is in a good position on the child. Head support is good.

Is it easy to fit the seat?
The instructions and warning labels are clear and very easy to understand, and there's little danger of installing the seat incorrectly if you follow the instructions.

It's easy to install, although very heavy. It weighs 15kg, so is best left in the car. Green indicators show when the Isofix connectors are correctly attached.

You can't turn the seat forwards without storing the harness.

It's easy to buckle your child in using both the harness and the shield.

Is the seat comfortable?
It's well-padded and creates a good sitting position for infants - who should not sit too upright - and older kids. You can also recline it to give older children a more comfortable sleep.

But the view from the seat is a bit limited and the leg support is uncomfortable for older children when it's rearward-facing.

Is there anything else I should know?
The seat cover is easy to remove and machine washable, and the finish quality on the seat is good.

Should I buy it?
This is a good child car seat and certainly worth considering. Although expensive, it should last you a long time and keep your child facing rearwards for longer, which many parents are keen to try.

Please remember that not all car seats fit in all cars. We recommend that you check how well this seat fits in the cars you will use before you buy it.

Do you already own this child car seat? If you do, click the Customer views tab - above the picture - and tell us what you think of it.

Pros: Extended rearward-facing seat, excellent good safety score as a Group 1 and Group 0+ seat, excellent head support, good seating position, good finish quality, machine-washable cover

Cons: Limited view for babies, heavy, uncomfortable leg support for older kids in rear-facing

BlearyeyedLol · 06/02/2014 07:12

Thanks cav that is very useful. Can I be a pain and ask you to post the reviews for the second and third ones on that list please????
It's all so complicated isn't it!
I'm not sure I necessarily need the rotation though of course it would be nice. I'm wondering if the next two have better views for baby! Ta GrinGrin

Cavort · 06/02/2014 08:50

Yes no probs Lol, I will do it just as soon as I can be arsed to get up. Grin E and me are having a lazy morning and haven't got out of bed yet. Blush E is chewing on the remote and has managed to change the channel from BBC News to Cbeebies, which of course was a total flook but made me laugh.