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December 2012 - the Christmas buns are coming out of the oven

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PurplePidjChickIsNotTheMessiah · 23/12/2012 17:18

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Bellaboo123 · 06/01/2013 10:32

Urgh shit nights sleep here very windy little lady Confused

So tired...lazy Sunday for us.

Glad there were better nights sleeps all round though

ISpyPlumPie · 06/01/2013 10:39

Congratulation Emily Thanks.

Utopian - N's cord looked quite weepy after the clip fell off but didn't smell. Mw and hv checked it and said it was fine. It appeared to heal, but on NYE bled out of the blue. We got it checked out and it had become infected. Think the key difference was that it happened a few weeks after the clip fell off. At this stage, it's probably normal but get it looked just to be sure. N has had antibiotics for his and it seems absolutely fine now.

Have spent most of the last 24 hours feeding. Wonder if there's a five week growth spurt?!

StaceymReadyForNumber3 · 06/01/2013 10:40

We're off to Richmond park to try and find deer. DH has invited mil so I'm going to have to perfect my 'smile and nod', thankfully Ethan will be in the sling so she can't get her hands on him

Sorry to hear so many babies are having problems with wind and sleeping in their own beds.

MaMaPo · 06/01/2013 11:00

Guess what I'm up to today - another bloody meal out. The in laws don't seem to understand that constantly going out (often to fancy restaurants) is pretty stressful with a newborn. There's the dressing up, getting ready on time, stressing about whether they'll welcome or have room for a pram, hoping she'll stay asleep/quiet, sometimes eating with one hand, plenty of breastfeeding in public... Best experience was the other night when we arrived somewhere and was told that children under 8 were not permitted. I was fully prepared to go straight home. sadly they let us in

For the time being, though - we're all in bed!

Emily, congrats! We're exactly a month apart - my little one was born on 5.12.12 at 11.44pm. Can't believe she's a month old already.

WLmum · 06/01/2013 11:21

That all sounds exhausting mamapo, sure I would have cracked by now.

Secondsop · 06/01/2013 11:33

Welcome emily!

My baby is really hungry all the time. Gave him a full formula feed at 9am, then he wanted some boob when I got it out to express so I gave him some, then gave him a small feed at 11 (am trying to get into a little-and-often habit to see if that helps his spitting up and hiccups) and then he took more boob! Wonder if it's a growth spurt. Really hope it's a growth spurt and that he's picking up weight-wise.

Stacks · 06/01/2013 11:48

We're another one suffering with wind (I think), though not as bad as some. I think the problem may be T's latch, if there's not enough breast tissue in the mouth they can get wind easier - 'perfect' latch BF babies don't get wind (or so my midwife strongly suggested).

T choked quite badly being sick last night, really freaking me out :( then this morning he woke himself up being sick through his nose :( For the first 10 days he had no wind at all, and would feed to sleep like an angel, then sleep for hours. Last 2 days he's been either feeding to sleep then squirming and straining, or feeding to try and make himself comfortable while pulling at the nipple, spitting it out or crying while latched on. Oh, and constantly kicking his wee legs, which are the perfect length to kick me on my CS site.

He doesn't seem to produce anything while winding him though, so I'm worrying it might be reflux? When he is sick there's no audible burp sound with it, or any 'look' of having burped. How long do you all wind for? And how can you tell if there's anything there to wind out of them?

Someone asked about CS being sore - I'm 12days post CS and almost pain free. Still occasionally take 2 paracetamol. However, I've not been doing anything since being home really. I've either been in bed, on bed, or sitting on the sofa. Last couple of days I've helped out with the laundry and things, and notice some discomfort if I'm doing stuff for too long. So, if you're still in much pain I'd recommend getting some rest if you can.

Mama, can you get out of going along to these dinner and lunch dates? Just say you're too tired, or that LO needs a break? I'm really happy my in laws have been very well behaved. They've only been to visit twice, asked permission both times, and kept their visits short. If only everyone else could learn from their example!

theblushingpeony · 06/01/2013 12:04

Congratulations emily !!

Well, after a promising start Ewan didn't seem to make much difference last night. DD was quiet in her basket listening to Ewan for a while but then started crying - it ended up being the usual pick up and feed, put down in moses basket, pick up again after 10 mins cycle we seem to be having every night from about 9pm till 11 or 12. Last night she eventually fell asleep on my chest at midnight and we managed to put her in the moses basket and she slept for 4 hours straight. I would've given in for co-sleeping a lot earlier but DP is not so keen about the idea...I'm willing to give Ewan another chance though as it might just take some time for DD to get used to it.

We're going to the in-laws for dinner tonight and they've offered to take DD for a few hours beforehand so that DP and I can have some precious time together. I just tried expressing some milk but hardly got anything. Sad Would it be ok to give some formula to DD while she's with the in-laws?

MaMaPo · 06/01/2013 12:28

Stacks, my girl seems to have a textbook latch but we still get wind. I'm v skeptical of any blanket pronouncements such as 'Bf babies always/never x.'

I wish I could opt out of dinners and lunches, but the inlaws are here from Aus for a short time only and want maximal baby time. However, they've not been able to adjust their normal London visit schedule which involves lots of shopping and eating out. They've cooked for us twice in a month;
We have cooked for them at least 5 times, including most of Chritmas lunch for 7 people, all with a newborn. We have dropped massive hints and also been very clear but they just dont listen. Aargh.

Deep breaths. Five days to go. And I will say NO to dinner at the fancy hotel which has been organized for tomorrow night, my husband's last evening before going back to work.

PurplePidjin · 06/01/2013 12:30

Peony, repeat over and over Aunty Pidjie's First Law Of Feeding:

A fed baby is a happy baby. How you achieve that - breast, bottle, breast milk or formula - is unimportant

theblushingpeony · 06/01/2013 12:38

purple Grin thank you, just needed some reassurance!

SpottyTeacakes · 06/01/2013 12:53

Peony of course it will be ok Smile just be prepared for her poo to be more toothpaste consistency afterwards just so you're not worried! Ds won't drink formula, we've tried a couple of times and after he realises it's not my milk he refuses it!

PurplePidjin · 06/01/2013 12:54

You can apply it to pretty much everything - birth, feeding, weaning, behaviour management, sleep... If it works, do it (within reason) :)

I like breaking rules. I'm a full time cloth-bumming baby-wearing co-sleeping (except he's decided he prefers his crib!) hippy dippy crusty. I have tie dye clothes somewhere at the back of the wardrobe and doc martens. I also have bottles, formula, Pampers and non-eco cleaning products; i leave my baby to cry so i can complete essential tasks and will be imposing behavioural expectations where appropriate by means of a sharp No. The only real rule i live by is Respect Other Peoples' Choices. Anyone who doesn't can fuck right off (unless they're my MIL in which case i politely smile and nod Wink)

theblushingpeony · 06/01/2013 13:49

I like your attitude purple Grin It's funny how quickly all the "rules" I read about have gone out the window after DD's birth...it turns out babies are not as straight forward as the books make out to be and at the moment it's all about survival.

theblushingpeony · 06/01/2013 13:55

spotty Were you in the room when you tried giving formula? Don't they say that if baby can smell your breast milk they won't take the bottle? I really hope DD will take formula as I want other people to look after her every so often and I obviously can't rely on expressing alone!

SpottyTeacakes · 06/01/2013 14:01

Yeah I was next to them in bed asleepish! He will happily take a bottle of expressed milk though in the same situation Confused

minipie · 06/01/2013 15:17

Afternoon all! Very belatedly joining the thread. DD was born prematurely at 34 weeks on 26 October and I've barely been able to mumsnet since (deprived face).

Been through some fun and games with her including 3 weeks in hospital, tests for chromosomal problems (all clear phew), 7 weeks of struggles to get her feed enough, possible reflux, loads of wind issues meaning she doesnt sleep, and most recently v sore nipples from her rubbish latch ... Argh! Things now seem to be improving though the wind continues to dominate her and our lives esp as it wakes her up...

How is everyone? I have had a quick skim and looks like there are a couple of other preemie mums here, Pidj and Honey, is that right? How are you doing and how are your babies?

So who else has a windy baby who squirms a lot? I have resorted to DD sleeping on my chest as that gives me the longest sleep periods... Stacks my DD also does the "feeding to help her poo/fart" thing, it is murder on the nipples.

And is anyone else not able to remember the last non baby centred conversation they had...?

EggsMichelle · 06/01/2013 15:26

So which formula milk do I buy? DH wants to give him a feed each day, but what I express is never enough to satisfy him which is annoying when I'm trying to sleep! Also I need to build up my freezer store for when F stays with our parents.

Had a scare, thought F was cutting a tooth, could see the white on the gum Shock turned out to be a lump of sick Blush

SpottyTeacakes · 06/01/2013 15:52

Welcome back minipie! Ds was born at 35+4 we were in SCBU for two weeks.

Eggs we use(d) Aptimil. Everyone in SCBU used that or cow and gate. SMA have really bad ethics so I completely avoid Smile

My nipples are really sore from all the feeding yesterday. The first minute of feeding makes me swear lots Blush any advice? His latch seems ok although it appears to get better a little bit into the feed as his mouth gets wider (he doesn't open it wide enough to start with and I have to push his head right on because he still looks the wrong way all the time Hmm). I also usually have to stroke his chin with my finger to get him to open it in the first place...

PurplePidjin · 06/01/2013 16:02

Hi Minipie, we were 38+3 so early but not prem iyswim :) congratulations Thanks

HoneyMumandSon · 06/01/2013 16:17

Hi again minipie DS was born at 33+3 on 25th oct so we're on a very similar time scale to you. He's doing well but developed reflux recently and gets awful trapped wind which can last hours and leads to much screaming. Glad your DD us doing well :)

SpottyTeacakes · 06/01/2013 17:15

Saw that pidj so sad Sad

I just made and ate a roast. Yum!

EggsMichelle · 06/01/2013 17:30

Congratulations Minipie and welcome back.

Thanks for linking that Pidj, I'm pretty sure I have some appropriate wool in my stash.

F was making a blood curdling scream earlier, cue panic that he was sick/injured/in extreme pain. Nope, just a bit peckish, Little monster!

Just ate an entire packet of biscuits. I imagine I have the same expression on my face as the babies when they are milk drunk, very content!

PurplePidjin · 06/01/2013 18:03

Roast beef here, also yum!

Make sure you pm Pistey, Michelle, so she can put you in her Very Efficient Spreadsheet

R is being a grotbag and dp has gone back to bed again. This coping malarkey is seriously underrated Sad