June 10 babies are growing apace, teething and crawling all over the place.

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Here we are ladies. Let's see if we can manage to chat a bit more on this one :).

ok, I spoke prematurely about the teeth, all four molars are on the way as well. So she's had 8 teeth coming through at pretty much the same time. This makes me optimistic about some greatly improved nights once this lot are all through.

If there os pne thing I would change about my children it' teething. They've both suffered badly. At least Danny is better than DD. Poor little mites and poor me!

Hi earlyonemoring!

I just popped on to say Danny is just being the cutest thing on earth at the moment. I just love the year between one and two. One to celebrate and treasure.

Thread dropped off my list so just adding back.

All this talk of teeth - we still only just have 3, so a massive way to go!

Impressive speech from some too it seems. Ds2 is not bothering with that yet, but then ds1 had VERY late speech but seemed to catch up quickly once he started.

Hopefully back later.

I also fell off...

Still only 2 teeth....I can't help thinking we're in for trouble soon though. Words aren't J's strongest skills, but he can certainly make himself understand and understands pretty much everything we say to him. He's now sleeping a good 12 hours a night, which is blissful!

Dannyy's not doing badly at night. He usually goes to bed at 6.30 and sleeps through but only until 5ish. DD was the same. It's nnot fun but I think they are both doing really well for their age.

Teeth. We've got lots and are paying dearly for each one.

We have some words, caca (Spanish from DH) and peekaboo (peeboo really which is very sweet) being current favourites.

Anyone else's LO still feeding like crazy? I'm sure it's molars but sometimes it's like newborn days round here.

We tend to feed all morning if we are at home without visitors laT.
And we still don't sleep through, and are often up very early in the morning (though touch wood not often 5am any more).

We are doing well on the teeth and speech front but would gladly swap for some sleep!
La T Fergus was still feeding a lot at times until recently. Since I got pregnant he seems less keen on my milk and often wants a bottle afterwards as he is still thirsty. Not sure how I feel about this though. He has stopped waking in the night for milk as well but still wakes for no reason/cuddle. He is also in our bed just now. I know I must do something about this before the next baby comes but dont know what. have already tried the whole crying thing and am too hormonal at the moment to try again. Am so flipping tired though

goodname - really feel for you re the lack of sleep. Lauren has never managed more than 5 hrs in one go. I've started a hand holding sleep thread as am trying to do something about it, was going well but then we all started with colds & it's gone a bit mad again. In my opinion everyone has to be ready to tackle the sleep thing & if you are knackered & hormonal it's not the right time.

Lauren is walking at great speed & can just manage a little run. Talking she makes the sounds & we understand but doesn;t say many actual words - there,downstairs, didi for geordie the cat & a very cute high pitched dah dah with a cute coy smile & head cocked on one side when she wants breastmilk!

Ugh. I take that back! I went to the AGM of DDs playgroup with both kids today. Daniel practicay took the place apart. I was so embarrassed. I had to keep hauling him away from things and he screamed every single time. He climbed chairs and rocked on them, pulled down signs, pulled something down from the ceiling (no idea how he got it); snatched scissors from a seven year old; went to town with the paints. In the end I made apologies and left.

I wouldn't have minded but it was the first time I've been. I don't think there was much more I could have done but so He's so physically confident it's terrifying. Coupled with being one and so having very little sense of right and wrong and it was mortifying.

I'm taking him to a toddler group tomorrow. The boy needs to be socialised and fast!

Oh dear LaT. We get comments back from the nursery saying things like "today I enjoyed picking bits off the display pictures". Yesterday once Ruth was in her car seat she cackled triumphantly and held out the key she had stolen from nursery- I found myself checking her pockets when we left a toy shop the other week!

We have been from the rediculous to the sublime on sleep and feeding. Monday night Ruth finally went to sleep at 1am, and was up twice between then and 5. It was almost constant feeding too. The next night she slept through (11 times now). It's still an average of 1-2 wakings each night.

Love the fact you can still count how many times ruth has slept through barbeasty, makes me feel better.
LaT - sorry cant help but laugh at your description.
Had my 12 week scan yesterday and there is definitely a wee wriggly baby in there. Due 5th May now (only one day out from my estimated date). Now officially nervous

Another Londoner left on this thread! Struggling to post but still here...

Congrats goodname that's so exciting!

Long period of adjustment here with ds1 at a new nursery since Sept. It's a preschool so he's home at 3.30 every day instead of 6 at his old nursery - I am finding it totally exhausting, he is shattered but I still have an hour or so to fill before tea etc, it doesn't sound like much but if we do come straight home it is an hour of constant fighting between the two boys and pretty stressful for everyone. We often do have playdates or a run around the park but I do dread the days we have nothing planned. It's such a different environment for me too, I wouldn't say I've struggled to make new friends but I am not sure how many kindred spirits there are iyswim - perhaps I am just expecting too much too soon.

Sorry I didn't mean for this to turn into a rant, just feeling a bit bleurgh today...

Oh minimoonnumbertwo - It will get easier I'm sure. I turn into a monster from around 4 until 6 every day. It's hideous. I pick DS up from school (just started) but really find it hard with both of them at home. At that time, Emma is grumpy, hungry and craving more attention than I can give, I'm juggling all of the domestic jobs, not to mention hot pans with her crawling up my legs and crying or whining and DS making demand after demand. While I feel guilty for not having the time to talk to him properly after a day at school. I feel like a shit mum! This is compounded by the fact that just before he goes to sleep, he keeps coming out with stories of being hit or pushed to the ground by some wee oik at school. Never imagined having to deal with this. God knows why not. Sending him off into the jaws of the playground everyday is very hard. I think I was in a toddler dream-world...Now he's there I really wish I'd relished the pre-school years more. I did love it in many ways but not like I now feel I should have done - if that makes sense. And by the same token, Emma drives me bonkers a lot and yet I know that before I know it, she'll be off too.....Sorry, rubbish day!

Emma can walk but is still stubbornly refusing to do it most of the time. Instead, just wearing a hole in all of her trousers. She is very frustrated by her inability to do most things at the moment - she seems very aware of how small she is. She is beginning to say a few words (but nothing like her brother at this age) - says 'nana' (banana), 'bear', 'yes', 'no', 'ball', 'bye', 'boo' and a few others. The other day, she was playing with a rubber band and came out with 'bubba band' suddenly. Very cute. Generally though she prefers to point and squeal!

Thank you madamefreckle, it is so good to know there is someone else in the same boat! You couldn't have described my afternoons better. I have to say, I do think the good afternoons are gradually outweighing the bad ones - mostly due to being able to have a run around in the park thanks to the good weather after school - but still, progress.

Hope everyone has a good weekend planned, fingers crossed for more glorious October sunshine...x

Hi Ladies

Congratulations to those of you expecting again!

Alice started walking properly this week now there is no stopping her.

MonkeyMargot I bumped into your nanny today at softplay so if she mentions some strange woman accosting her and talking about Mumsnet that was me! Your DC are very sweet and the nanny seemed lovely.

Off out for a child free girls lunch tomorrow - can't wait to be able to eat a meal and chat without being interrupted by DD1 needing a poo or DD2 crying!

Hope everyone has a fab weekend.

minimoo and madamef I love you both. Thought the dreaded 4pm-bedtime slot was only feared by me. I don't recognise myself at that time of day - while DS and Alice wind each other and me up, and it's such a relief when they both go to sleep.

mini apols for not recalling or knowing your'e in London - where are you?

Am having my first experience of an inset day today, having only realised belatedly that it was going to precede half-term and give me another whole day of adjudicating between Alice and DS. I have been counting the hours till I can have my Friday night drink since shortly after lunch.

Mrs AR enjoy your child-free lunch. Not being interrupted is such bliss isn't it.

We call it the dead hours round here. I try and fill it up with big snack at 3, bath at 4 (my kids love it so we take ages), dinner at 5, bed at 6. I shut them out of the kitchen with a gate while I cook. Often I have had both of them screaming at me, but I just think they'd be screaming much more if I tripped over one of them while I was straining the rice.

I often also end of lying down on the living room floor. Nothing makes them happier than jumpig al over me. Nothing. I like it too!

And as for adjudicating, unless it comes to downright danger, I tend to let them get on with it. If I try and sort out everything, I'm positive one of them will think I'm not being fair no matter how hard I try. It's surprising how much stuff does blow over.

Sorry roundabout, missed your comment first time I read it. Thanks for the support, we are going through the cold thing here as well. Will look for your sleep thread :)
Had booking in appointment today and its so boring, it was bad enough the first time round but surely they could just copy all your notes over from last time. So much unneccesary paperwork going on there I reckon.
Those 4 Oclock onwards times sound bad. I sometimes feel a bit like that (how long til DH comes home) and I only have 1 fergus (for now)

whenwilli & lat brilliant - it makes such a difference to know other mums aren't sailing through the afternoons with ready planned crafty activities & calm contented children. Interesting idea about doing bath before tea lat I think I'll try that next week.

I can't believe how much I am loving half term - thought I'd be absolutely dreading it but so so nice to spend some quality time with ds1, Seb is quite noticeably happier when the three of us spend the day together, no 4pm helltime and I get a break from my playground insecurities - I don't know if I could do it for more than a week though mind!!

goodname - gosh how boring - did you take Fergus with you to the appointment?

whenwilli we are in Balham - sorry I forget where you are? Which makes me think you are not nearby!

Looking forward to new Jamie O programme tonight...

we are also enjoying half term & is so nice to spend time together rather than the rush than school life seems to bring. Early baths defintely help but dd1 now 6 refuses to have a bath before tea now as apparently 6 is far far too old to be having a bath that early!

goodname - such long in depth appointments do sound a waste of time & resources. Sleep thread has probably disappeared, haven;t had time to post on it, tonight the first night of dd1 being back in with dd2, hopefully I will be sleeping in my own bed but have a feeling it may be on the floor next to dd2's cot!

Hello - lovely to hear that everyone is enjoying half term. We've had a little drama here. Zoe fell off the coffee table badly and what I thought was a sprained wrist turned out to be a fracture and a dislocated elbow. I started weeping when the doctor told me they would have to put her under general anaesthetic to manipulate the elbow and insert pins to make sure it heals properly. It was so awful, and as we have no family around I was on my own while DH looked after the other 2. I was getting very sympathetic looks from other waiting for news in the recovery room waiting area when really they had much longer waits than I did. She was out after an hour and after a night in hospital, returned home sporting a cast and attempting to climb everything again with one arm! The pins and the cast come off in 3 weeks and I am counting the days as I'm worried she will fall and break something else!

Re: the dreaded 4pm onwards, I definitely have to gear myself up for it, but I find some chill music helps. We're listening to the Beatles at the moment and it is lovely ..

dimb - poor zoe, how awful for all of you, sounds like she's coping with it well! It must be hard at times like that with no family close by. My in laws are close by but to be honest not very helpful but at least I know in an emergency they would be there to help out.