William Hague and SCAMeron, totally inept?

[LisaT06]

I notice the ramblings of some of the Pro Tory mob. How can anyone honestly..truly, claim Hague has any flair whatsoever? I even noticed someone claim he outdid Blair on numerous occasions? Please...he is as boring as a dial tone and has the most annoying voice on the face of the earth. He stands for nothing and even took part in CASHcrofts lie-fest to get himself a peerage. Having watched him in numerous re runs of PMQ's and Paliamentary debats with Blair...Blair wiped the floor with him at every turn.
As for DAVE SCAMeron..a man who claims "this budget is going to hurt" ? Easy enough to say when your sitting on a £30 million fortune. A man who walked into a £100,000 + a year job after one phone call from "daddy dearest".

Im sorry but the very fact that the CONservatives backed the Apartheid and labeled Nelson Mandela a "terrorist" while all the while Hailing General Pinochet as a man bringing democracy to Chile, will always make them a party to be absolutely shunned by good, decent, society.

I felt extremely sorry for Adelle Douglas, young and rising Tory star for the nasty comments she had to endure from her pompous Tory colleagues including Billy the Liar Hague. They labelled her a "pa**i shagger" because she was seeing a man of Asian descent...they called her "the northern one" because of her Mancunian up bringing and made fun of her accent. William Hague then asked her what her parents did..when she explained that one was a prison officer and the other was a worker in local government his and his colleagues responses were "oh thats terribly working class isnt it..how do you cope with that?".
Speaks volumes about a party that is so full of snobbery, racism and the like that its very stench is enough to choke god himself.

The CONservative party supports a strongly capitalist society where barriers such as race and sex are used to divide opposition and encourage selfishness, thus perpetuating the system.Another self-described Fascist was Pinochet who Thatcher described as a "Great man". Like under Hitler, thousands died or disappeared under his rule as well, but his economic policies were non-interventionist, laissez-faire and free-market. Fascism can rule with different economic philosophies.

It's just struck me listening the news that yet another stock Labour reaction had been trotted out about the rise in retirement age for men by one year being 'unfair' on people in their fifties, who hadn't planned on woking an extra year. Yes, well that may be so, but we all know whose fault at is,don't we?

All week some Lab spokesperson or other has been banging on about this bit of the budget being 'unfair' to him, and that bit of the budget being 'unfair' to her. For crying out loud - what do they want? That we stick our heads in the sand and carry on like nothing has happened? They're reaction is pathetic, frankly. They are starting to sound like sulky children with their constant whine of 'it's not fair'.

Good point Fellatio.

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. Seems to have been replaced by whingers who feel that someone, somewhere, other than themselves owes them a living.

Oh Jess. Try Roy Jenkins as Labour chancellor followed by the Tory Barber boom. Fun fun fun.

Interesting about Ian Macleod between them. A very interesting time in politics too.

I'll concede Jenkins as an anomaly because of his later affiliations with SDLP. ;-)

OP, 'bastardising peoples' names in capitals' as mumblechum described your posting style, makes you sound like a walking tabloid. And as hard to take seriously, frankly.

I read that as "wanking tabloid"!

Just sounded like incomprehensible illogical ranting to me.

LisaT06, keep it up. It made me laugh. Bastardising people's names and policies can sometimes succintly sum up their entire philosophy in a single word. It is part of our rich heritage of political satire used by some of our greatest figures like Jonathan Swift, Daniel Defoe, William Hogarth and found in more modern work by Joseph Heller in Catch 22 and work by Peter Cook and John Cleese. Anything that makes us laugh and think at the same time and which also pricks the pomposity of the high and mighty, is always welcome.

Moliere was the master. The public loved him, but the high and mighty tried to have him banned, because they didn't like it up 'em. He would have had a field day with our current crop.

"Everybody else has been calling Cameron names such as Hameron and Cameroon, but Scameron is the best by far. It is almost as good as Bliar."

Bliar! ROFL
I've heard 'Clameron'. Liked that one I did.

The pair of them are chinless embarrassments to have in power, and there's no point pretending otherwise.

I don't think you can call Hague chinless; and so far he seems to have been effective; he knows where he wants foreign policy to go, and is beginning to drive it through.

Bless. Examining a period of history through the eyes of today will always throw up decisions and judgements that some might now think questionable but remember that Pinochet seized power and Apartheid was in place during the Cold War, when the biggest threat to us in the West was considered to be communism - different times, differen priorities.

Still, you clearly don't support the Conservatives and are therefore piqued, so I happily revel in your disquiet and shall enjoy every day the Labour is out of power as another small step in the right direction for this country.

I do feel slightly embarassed having David Cameron as my PM. Its a bit like when the Americans elected GW Bush.

I felt more embarassed when the budget came out though, so regressive! Every economic analysis predicted that it would slow the recovery at best, and at worse plunge us back deeper into recession, increasing unemployment.

Barmy - do you really think this is the right direction for the country??

Do you like them because some business leaders back them? Because you can see exactly why in the budget - a massive tax cut for banks and for large corporations' profits. Tax increases and job cuts for everyone else.

Scameron - good pun

Regressive or avoiding bankruptcy? Labour were profligate; there is a massive hole in the finances, and I would rather have cuts today when we can weather them, than total bloody chaos when I retire and there is no money to pay our pensions.

Regressive imo is constantly hammering the rich and the middle income people for tax and NI, as if they are driven out or go elsewhere, then that tax base is lost.

Yes it is regressive. It means that banks will contribute even less tax on their profits than they did before !

When we have such a huge hole in the budget its quite frankly utterly irresponsible government from the conservatives. But as long as Dave's millionaire mates get their perks and (non-dom) tax breaks eh!

In return for their tax breaks, we get all our essential services and safety nets cut, and a massive increase in unemployment thanks to their again regressive VAT rise. This will drive down spending, hitting the economy and jobs where it hurts the most - i.e. in every city, town and village, where hard working people are losing their jobs as we speak.

So dont you come whining to me about those poor rich people!

who on earth rates WH, don't you all remember him from the 80's. Jaysus, the man is a joke and always will be.

Personally am waiting for the coalition to implode any time around November 2010.........

I rate WH - and I've changed since the 1980s, as have you I expect. I wouldn't expect to be judged professionally now on how I was when I was 14-24 (how old I was in the 80s) and neither would you I suspect. Nor should WH be.

I love the frankly irresponsible bit about the Coalition - remind me who was in power since 1997 and caused the whole mess in the first place? If the deficit wasn't tackled, then the cuts would happen anyway as we ran out of money and had to go to the IMF and accept the cuts they want us to make. This way we get a breathing space. The VAT rise brings UK into line with much of Europe, and we still don't pay on food or books or children's clothes. Try living in Belgium, where it all attracts VAT at either 6% or 21%.

Miggsie - I'd be asking Mumsnet to delete that last comment if I were you, unless you want a lawsuit coming your way.