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If Clegg sides with the Tories I don't think I will be voting Lib again

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Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:07

Anyone got any thoughts on this. Hopefully it looks like he will side with Labour. But if he went Blue that would be it.

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Brollyflower · 07/05/2010 09:10

I would be quite cross if there's a con-lib pact. I suspect lots of people would have voted differently in hindsight.

AbsOfCroissant · 07/05/2010 09:11

Well, I reckon that even if they did, it wouldn't last long. My bet is that we'd be back having an election again in a year's time.

meandjoe · 07/05/2010 09:12

I would still vote for them because I can not deny the fact that the Lib Dems are just what I believe in. But I agree with you. I would feel very 'sold out' by them. It just wouldn't make sense to join a coalition with Conservatives, they are far too different. Different approaches to economy, different approaches to education and just about everything else in between. I think it makes far more sense for them to join with Labour but then no doubt the British public would be up in arms that Clegg backed the Party wth least number of votes. I hope against hope that he makes the right decision and that the future is ORANGE!

Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:15

I don't think GREEN would be a good colour combination.

At least the Tories didn't get an overall majority. DC can't be too happy. He had it all going his way and he still couldn't win.

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AbsOfCroissant · 07/05/2010 09:18

Yes, but he's still running around saying that he's won. Bless him.

Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:21

It is quite funny. But that is politicians they talk a lot of bull.

I am not an expert on countries who have PR but surely its not always the party with the most seats who get in power if coalitions are formed. Its just this country which is not used to coalitions and such what.

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GrendelsMum · 07/05/2010 09:25

I've been told that the civil servants have spent the last couple of weeks preparing for a Lib-Con coalition.

I'd actually be very happy with a Lib-Con coalition at this point in time, although not necessarily in general.

claig · 07/05/2010 09:25

I think that Clegg is a natural Tory and was all along. I think he won't make a deal with Labour, whatever they offer him. Agree with meandjoe that it would let down the British public enormously to find the same old Labour faces on TV running the country.

weegiemum · 07/05/2010 09:27

In the end I had to choose between SNP and LibDem. I voted SNP cos I couldn't bear if I had voted for the LibDems and then they formed a pact with the Tories. I would feel liek I had voted them in.

I just couldn't live with myself.

Plus the Trident issue (I live on the CLyde!!)

NormaSnorks · 07/05/2010 09:27

Clegg started life as a Tory, then switched to LibDem I think?

Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:30

I wonder if there is anyway of cancelling my vote if they did side with them..... Well it will be cancelled going forwards. My dad was a candidate for the local elections for lib dems too.

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claig · 07/05/2010 09:31

NormaSnorks, they say he was a member of the Conservatives at University. Then he went to work for the Tory EU commissioner Leon Brittan, on the recommendation of a good family friend, the Tory Lord Carrington. Brittan tried to persuade him to become a Tory, but Clegg joined the Liberals. But with his aristocratic banking family background, I think he is closer to the Tories than to Labour.

Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:33

But then my aunt knew Tony Blair from her barrister days (same chambers) and he was the most right wing person she had met. We all know what happened to him.....

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bobbiewickham · 07/05/2010 09:34

Nobody can want a government formed by two losing parties, surely?

Labour have no moral right to form a government. And Clegg has said all along he would only form a government with the party with the most seats/votes.

Gordon Brown is clinging onto power by his fingernails, and he should accept that he has lost his mandate and well, do one.

But he won't - not without a fight. Power-crazed egomaniac that he is.

God, we're going to have to go through all this again in a year, aren't we?

claig · 07/05/2010 09:35

Loujalou, many Labour people think that Blair was a Tory all along and changed many of Labour's traditional policies, carried on Thatcher's legacy, carried on shafting the unions, cosied up with George Bush etc. etc.

Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:36

This isn't about morals its politics.

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MintHumbug · 07/05/2010 09:37

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foureleven · 07/05/2010 09:38

Id be more annoyed if lib and labour joined forces. I voted con because I wanted them to get more seats. and they did. so far.

i understand the rules of course but a governemtn of two losing parties... doesnt seem very democratic to me.

bobbiewickham · 07/05/2010 09:42

Totally undemocratic.

I do have issues with PR too - means that each constituency won't be represented in Parliament and the whole thing becomes about keeping a majority rather than representing the people.

InmyheadIminParis · 07/05/2010 09:42

I'd ask for my vote back

Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:43

Paris shall we go to the polling station together? (grin)

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Loujalou · 07/05/2010 09:44
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NetworkGuy · 07/05/2010 09:45

"Clegg has said all along he would only form a government with the party with the most seats/votes."

I thought he said that discussions would start with whichever party had a majority of votes.

If the "price" for that is
a) fixed term parliament
b) proportional representation

Then the effect would be to hold the Conservatives over a barrel, as neither of those would go down well, but if given that ultimatum, DC may turn him down.

There are analysts saying that a Lab-LibDem pact is also unworkable.

Perhaps it is far too early to discuss. NC will be disappointed in what has happened so far, and refused to be filmed on the train down to London, which seems a sensible idea, as there will no doubt be many discussions with MPs of the party to firm up the options so he's in a position to know the majority of MPs would go with any agreement.

I'm glad things have worked out this way. It may mean short term chaos and does look likely to see real electoral reform.

I'd also like to see a change from a Thursday voting day - it would mean that most problems at the polling stations would be avoided.

Brollyflower · 07/05/2010 09:49

Minthumbug talks a lot of sense

claig · 07/05/2010 09:50

I think Clegg will even abandon proportional representation. He will let his supporters down and the rest of us down. I wish he would demand proportional representation, but I somehow doubt it.