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Xenia · 06/05/2010 07:51

Parents ensure the budget balances. You don't spend what you don't have. You care for your family. You put the interests of your children above your own. You are responsible and sensible. You want rights but with responsibilities. The Conservatives have always been the party of freedom and will abolish a raft of pointless laws early on and give families the right to thrive without state interference.

The Times says much that needs to be said today:-

"General election day is a celebration of democracy. And on one of those rare election days ? there have been only two in the past thirty years ? when a change of government seems possible, it can feel like a day of liberation. Today, however, feels very different. The mood is sombre. And we will all exercise our democratic right with an unusual weight of responsibility.

Britain is in trouble. This election comes at a time when the quiet assumptions of our nation and its politics are in question. It is no longer clear that Britain will be able to remain a great power, or a harmonious society, or one prosperous enough to be able to guarantee its citizens liberty and justice.

In 2005 Tony Blair sought re-election under the slogan ?Forward, not back?. It appeared a bland campaign motto, but was rather clever. It was an attempt to appropriate to Labour the inevitable proceeds of growth and the credit for progress that the country always sees. So it is striking that it would be a risky proposition to run on such a slogan now. We can no longer take it for granted that Britain will go forward, not back.

This country could well become less than it was ? less prosperous, less cohesive, less significant in the world: a country where employment among 16 to 17-year-olds is at a record low is one in which business is no longer providing enough jobs for young people. We have increased state spending by 54 per cent in the past 13 years but cannot boast world-class public services. The State has become more intrusive as it has become larger, threatening civil liberties. We are not going forward. We may go back.

Election day 2010 is the moment when this country will have to stop running away from its debts. For the past two years, as we tried to fend off recession, we have been shoving the bills into a drawer without opening the envelopes. This has to end today. The price of our borrowing will have to be paid.

Across Europe you can see the social breakdown that is the inevitable consequence of government and people living beyond their means. Murder, arson and riots may be a Greek tragedy today. But this tragedy awaits any European nation that does not begin to reduce its public borrowing. Britain is fortunate that it did not heed the advice of those who wanted us to enter the euro. But if we do not reduce our borrowing in line with our earnings, then a Greek tragedy awaits us too.

In 1997, as a nation, we decided that we needed to find more and more money for public services. But the policy we then embarked upon was not sustainable. We overspent badly. Increasing public spending faster than the rate of economic growth was bound, at some point, to collide with reality. And now it has. The alternative now is to reshape the State so that it does not require an ever increasing proportion of national income to fund it properly. This will require some bold decisions and some very hard ones. During the campaign it proved possible to avoid some of them. No longer.

This election is unlike other watershed moments. In 1979, the case for sorting out the economy scarcely needed to be articulated. When rubbish lies uncollected in the streets and the electricity does not work, you know it is time for a change. Today?s economic crisis, in contrast, is more remote. But it is no less real or significant.

The Times has already cast its vote. It is not, of course, for us to tell you how to vote, only how we think. We believe that the Conservative Party is best placed to tackle the vast economic challenges ahead. It is now the turn of the electorate to decide. How the next government handles the economy will prove decisive for the future of this country. At every election, party leaders solicitous of your vote, and media commentators hopeful of your attention, will tell you that the stakes are high, that this time it matters. So often the significance is inflated. Not this time. This election will define Britain for the next generation. "

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7117547.ece

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snowlady · 06/05/2010 10:24

alibaba - yes there is more to choosing a govt than personal financial gain which is why I look at all areas of policy before deciding who to vote for.

However Cameron does go on and on about rewarding people who do the right thing, work hard etc but his policies are really only rewarding the very wealthy. He made out he would reward marriage/civil partnership but the policy he has come out with is so bad it is not worth having.

I imagine the tories will make cuts in the public sector. However they haven't spelt out what they are cutting back on. Is it numbers of teachers and nurses or bureaucracy? I think it is wrong that the public sector in particular top management have been having generous pay rises when pay in the private sector has not increased at all and final salary pensions have all but disappeared. I hope whoever wins the election will address this.

On your other point alibaba I like you live in a prosperous area of the south east. However the state schools here are very good at primary and secondary level despite Labours best attempts to take vast sums of money up to their nothern heartlands. The schools would be even better with smaller class sizes.

sarah293 · 06/05/2010 10:27

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ahundredtimes · 06/05/2010 10:31

Because he won't Riven - he'll say you need to find someone to 'volunteer' to give you respite care - that's the big society idea folks.

'Cameron says he wants to model his economic policies on Ireland's, where the government has opposed any economic stimulus and introduced drastic and immediate cuts. As the economist Rob Brown explains, after they introduced this strategy, there began "an astonishing 15 per cent shrinkage in the Irish economy overall ? the sharpest contraction experienced by any advanced industrial nation in peacetime". Unemployment is close to the highest in Europe: Irish eyes are weeping at this full-colour reshoot of the 1930s headed our way.' The Independent

If you vote conservative, they will instantly contract the economy. There will be no growth. There will be high unemployment and high VAT.

What else? A full-scale slashing of public services. No back-up, no support - you will need 'volunteers' to get the basics done; that's the big society idea.

The rich will stay rich - whereas they should be taxed more. The rest can and probably will go to hell.

sarah293 · 06/05/2010 10:34

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ninna · 06/05/2010 11:18

Will someone please tell me what happened in Hammersmith and Fulham?

GetOrfMoiLand · 06/05/2010 11:42

Xenia you are not that far removed from Simon Cowell in yesterday's Sun: very wealthy individual and Murdoch owned paper recommend voting Tory. I am tempted to say No Shit Sherlock.

If you are wealthy and successful the tory party is the one for you.

If you are one of the unfortunates in society the Tories will adopt the same laissez faire attitude as they have done for the last 300 years.

noddyholder · 06/05/2010 13:46

I think last month GB an Alastair Darling were saying the debt was going to cost every family between 1p and 2p in the pound over the next 4-5 years.Senior economists on newsnight said no matter how they calculated and what they said it was more like 6p!

NetworkGuy · 06/05/2010 13:56

"If the lies about Iraq were so convincing how come the LibDems voted against the war?"

Perhaps because they felt it was being done for the wrong reasons, as a 'favour' to war monger Bush. Still seems extraordinary that we are there years later, and pumping billions into something which currently doesn't seem to have made great strides for the people living in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

Then remember that some of the billions are on weaponry not supplies or protection for soldiers, nor for rebuilding. Weaponry that sometimes may be from UK manufacturers, but possibly from USA...

Still broken infrastructure, still suggestions of politicians being corrupt and civil wars likely if troops were not on the streets, and still unbelievable poverty and danger for pretty much everyone stuck in either country.

Xenia · 06/05/2010 20:08

Yes, nh, it's going to be an absolutely blood bath whoever gets in. Indeed I've heard it argued by some staunch tories twould be better to let Labour back in to make the savage cuts and then they won't get back in for a generation and then have to call an early second general election and then the Conservatives get in properly but that's a bit complex a plan and I'd rather have the safe hands now.

I am sure many people on here will remember income tax basic rate at 33%, not 20%. That was our hisotric basic rate for years and years.

But back on the issue - I hope you've all been out and voted for the party for families. I don't like the way the left always say the right are heartless. Socialists don't have a monopoly on doing good by any means and they usually get things wrong.

Under the Tories we were paying back the national debt. It was a wonderful feeling. I remember those days. Brown chose not to do that even when the going was good. Instead he wasted it, like a child in a sweet shop rather than a sensible parent salting it away for time of need.

Well now you have your chance to give him his come uppance.

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