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Tory....AND PROUD!

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MrsBeeton1901 · 22/04/2010 19:03

Good evening ladies, Mrs Beeton here and I'm new to this Mumsnet internet thing! Just finished cleaning the house, including but not limited to, behind the fridge as I would advocate to all MN users to do and details of which can be found in my good housekeeping manual for women!
Anyway enough about housekeeping and onto politics. Now, I understand most MN users on here are fair trade munching liberals, personally I'm a bit partial to a nice slice of Dundee cake (home baked of course, none of this Mum's gone to Iceland rubbish) with my elevenes... but I digress.
Mr Cameron is what this country needs right now - think of the WW1 General Haig poster - 'Your country needs you' and it most certainly does Mr Cameron. In my day Great Britain had an Empire which instilled in its subjects a sense of civility, patriotism,civic duty and people were polite, well mannered, spoke correctly and men were chivalrous - what ever happened to good old fashioned chivalry. Mr Cameron is a reminder of those good old fashioned values most people in Great Britain would love to hark back to but unfortunately Labour and the Liberal Democrats have manifested a sense anti - patriotism, anti - personal responsibility et al - the list is endless....

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TerryWogansCock · 23/04/2010 11:31

why thankyou

lincstash · 23/04/2010 15:28

@TerryWogansCock

Is it a Bantam or Rhode Island Red?

lincstash · 23/04/2010 15:33

@crystal123

I find the easiest targets are extremists - the looney left and the far right, and the devout moslems. Also im this category are Bush supporters (mostly all gone now), suvivalists and obviously the gay brigade and the animal rights morons (there really easy). The hardest to wind up are middle ground politics, i think most of them are too dim and straight laced to even notice there being wound up......

Kevlarhead · 25/04/2010 22:09

Troll (Internet). Also urbandictionary

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

"Do you feel lucky.......well do you, punk ?"

Why should I feel lucky? You're a common-or-garden troll so I'm not going to bother. Later, 10$3|^.

richardblogger · 25/04/2010 22:49

Oh dear. I think MrsBeeton should read the Conservative manifesto. OK, so here is the practicalities of the "Big Society", forgive me that I use the NHS as an example, but since I volunteer to help at my local hospital that is where my experience is. The "Big Society" is supposed to be supplied by three groups: 1) voluntary groups of local people, 2) charities 3) private companies

  1. Voluntary groups running NHS services. Clearly non-medical individuals cannot provide medical care, but they could manage them. Why would they, voluntarily? Hospital budgets are large and taking over a service, like say hip operations, would require the skills to handle budgets of several million pounds. Few people with the skills to do that would want to do it voluntarily. People who do not have the skills will not be given the budget for obvious reasons.

  2. Charities. Many charities have the skills of delivering services and handling budgets. They provide social care in many areas. However, I am not sure if many charities would actually want to take over a service from an NHS hospital. There is still a great regard for the NHS in the population and charities are more inclined to help an supplement the NHS rather than take over an NHS service. No one I know in a charity wants to take services from an NHS hospital.

  3. Private sector. This is the real reason for the "Big Society". Lansley talks about "co-ops of doctors" taking over NHS services. That may sound nice, but when you consider that any surplus that the "co-op" makes on providing the service will end up paying for this year's new Merc when before the hospital would have used it to either subsidise another NHS service or provide some new service, you then start to realise that the "Big Society" and the "ring fence" is a cunning plan to take money out of the NHS.

Please think carefully before you vote. The Conservative plan to get rid of targets will get rid of the 18 week limit on waiting lists. It will also mean cuts to NHS hospitals as money is taken away from them and handed to private companies. The "Big Society" is a way of the public purse to support private healthcare. This seems odd from Conservatives who usually believe in free markets and competition, not being propped up by the public purse.

Lipstickdipstick · 26/04/2010 20:14

bollocks

RSCmatriarch · 28/04/2010 07:35

Mrs Beeton,

I think we should have good public services and everyone who works should have decent terms and conditions. I also believe workers have the right to strike.

However, I shall be voting Tory because I come from an immigrant background and grammar schools provide the only way that the children of low waged people get a chance to compete for a place at a good school.

Labour want to get rid of grammar schools so they won't be getting my vote.

cornsilk · 28/04/2010 08:04

linctash - I don't normally make comments such as this, but if you're going to call us all 'dim' please make the effort to spell correctly.

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