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Who will join me in emailing Clarks? Yet another strappy, pink summer for our DDs

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Annner · 23/03/2010 19:59

I'm ready to be flamed as being a harpy who thinks about things toooo much. But I went into Clarks today to look at their summer range - forward planning for Easter holiday shoe-buying fest. And I'm even more dismayed than usual about what they have on offer for girls, as the boys' range was so nice and so fantastically tailored for an active child.

It really struck me that the perennial Mumsnet moans about Clarks and their lack of choice for girls is a political issue. It's about objectification starting young. It's about sending a clear message about how much charging around you can do.

In their catalogue were two shoes - a sandal and a shoe, that had a heel. Starting at size 13. I know 6 year olds in size 13s, and so we aren't talking about sparkly dressing up clothes, we are talking about real shoes that real girls will be wearing while they are still in the infants.

Their staff told me that there is no demand for more rugged shoes. I asked why, for example this could not be made in a purple, or even plum, or even pink, goddammit. There is no demand, I was told. She told me that they expect this and this to be their biggest sellers for girls this summer. The colour of the latter is even called "lipstick" - just in case we are in any doubt.

So, if you have ever ranted about the limitations of Clarks, or their lack of choice, please join me in emailing them.

Disclaimer: I know that many of you like pink. Hell, I'm quite fond of it. What I am objecting to is the lack of choice. Unless I want to pay five gerzillian pounds for imported shoes.

Dear Sir or Madam,
I visited your Annnerville store today to look at what your children's ranges this spring/summer. The contrast between the two sides of the symmetrical display really shocked me.

On the boys' side of the shelves: rugged, supportive sandals and shoes, chunky soles, thick straps, all calling out to be worn to run down hills, tramp across the fields and charge around the school playground.

On the girls' side? White. Strappy. Pink. Even heels (starting at size 13). Nothing that I would consider suitable even for a regular walk into town, never mind the fun and rough wear that I want my five year-old daughter to enjoy as much as my three year-old son.

Just looking at your display showed very clearly the messages that children will draw about what they are expected to do. For the girls? Not to move around too quickly, or with too much dirt. For the boys? Have fun.

I would never try to run in strappy sandals, so why is this all that you appear to offer girls for hot weather?

And as for the trainers? I couldn't see anything that wasn't either white (again), pink, with a plastic toy in the heel, or covered with flowers. The toy in the heel seems to either raise the child's foot up (practice for heels in later life?) with it in place, or throw it back when removed. I have never met a parent with a good word to say about them, and so will not be buying them. By your own admission, Doodles are not suitable for everyday wear, so there is literally nothing that I can buy from Clarks for an active five year old who happens to want more from her sandals than that their white colour matches all her clothes.

In despair I asked the staff why your entire range seems to divide girls and boys not only into their own defined shoes (what would be wrong with a plain red or blue trainer, for example?) but according to what they are able to do in those shoes.
I grew up wearing Clarks shoes. My brother and I used to have the same Cica trainers, and we both had good rugged sandals that stood up to everything that an active childhood could throw at them. She told me that there was no demand for the sort of shoe that I am looking for. Please take this email as being my demand.
Yours,
Annner

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SusieCarmichael · 23/03/2010 20:25

megglevache i really like those btw

Megglevache · 23/03/2010 20:25

It's just so hit and miss but I've been so lucky in the past with both dcs picking up lovely soft leathered boots/sandals etc for about £16 a pair- as you know full price is £30+. I love a bargain me!

The boys stuff is quite flashy I think, love it!

BadGardener · 23/03/2010 20:26

brilliant email Annner.
We too have given up on Clarks - a combination of the excessive gendering and the fact that their measuring isn't as great as they would like to think. We have an independent shoe shop near us that sells Start-Rite so we use that for 'proper' shoes and supermarket cheapies for sandals etc.

squilly · 23/03/2010 20:28

Soory, but the Primigi collection tab I clicked on showed the girliest shoes I've ever seen. Am I missing something? DD wouldn't wear any of them. Mind you, she is 9.

I'm having difficulties with the school shoes this year for some reason. Clarks are hideous. Independent retailers are expensive. Clinkards (my fallback store) stocked one style she liked, allegedly in size 2-6, but when she went 'outback' to find the 2.5 size, she said they'd made a mistake and it was back to the drawing board for us again.

So far, we've got a pair of Converse (which cost £37 because my dd is now a size 3, which apparently clicks her over to adult size) and that's it! I've told dd she must have school shoes too, but after trekking around Meadowhall (big shopping complex) we have nothing. NOTHING.

God and I thought it was just me and my size 8 plates of meat that were crap for shoe shopping...but clearly not! My dd looks like she's going to have the same game.

bunnylicious · 23/03/2010 20:30

Yep - I too think you're contradicting yourself.

Why does a shoe have to be made in pink for it to be a girls shoe? Just buy from the boys range if you want more 'boyish' shoes for your DD>

yellowcircle · 23/03/2010 20:30

I have to say that there is demand for the stuff Clarks are selling. Not much demand amongst mumsnetters, but demand from the general population. I have wondered for ages why clothes and shoes for young girls are so pink and shitty and it is because that's what people want. Bizarre, but true!

You won't have much luck with customer services. They are poor anyway, but in this case they are actually catering for demand.

I have put my DD in boys clarks. She is currently in boys Geox. In fact, I've bought her as much from the boys ranges as I have from the girls.

differentID · 23/03/2010 20:31

what about these?they look sturdy enough and aren't too sickly pink either.

morningpaper · 23/03/2010 20:32

YANBU

They only have ONE t-bar style "children's shoe" this season - and it's RED LEATHER fgs, it goes with NOTHING

that's IT

The boys shoes are too clunky - I just want a "sensible" girls shoe that they can wear in the rain!!

very annoying

Megglevache · 23/03/2010 20:34

Squilly some of the french catalogues have lovely shoes- Vertbaudet or Laredoute IIRC and have you looked in M&S?

The moccasans and glads are cute IMO if you're not into girly girlie, the high tops are cool too I think
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Annner · 23/03/2010 20:34

Thanks for all of your suggestions. Obviously I know that I will be ending up in Russell and Bromley and probably with Startrite or Geox sandals.

I guess that this time I am seeing it beyond consumer frustration with lack of choice, and looking at it as a broader question of the messages that we send to our DDs.

I'm not so up myself that I'll put her in boys' sandals to suit my own principles. The school playground is too cruel a jungle for that. (I remember being the last fifteen-year old in Clarks shoes at school and that hurt) I need to know that she feels as able to rough it and tumble it as her brother does. We all know how we naturally move down a few gears subconsciously when we are not wearing the right footwear for an activity. Apart from when bladdered, that is.

Jacquelinehyde - I know what you mean about boys's shoes. The ubiquity of the trainer for boys' winter shoes is the other side of the strappy pink summers for girls.

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Megglevache · 23/03/2010 20:35

The criss cross and silver pumps are lovely too for non pink

differentID · 23/03/2010 20:35

Next are doing these
these

gramercy · 23/03/2010 20:38

I'm with you.

Clarks shoes have become increasingly, er, common (cough, splutter, snob alert) in recent years.

Startrite shoes are way nicer but hideously expensive.

I see a lot of dd's classmates (year 2) stumbling around in really unsuitable shoes, or flat-footing along in ballet pumps. I dread to think what they'll be wearing come the summer.

Annner · 23/03/2010 20:40

Bunnylicious - it doesn't have to be in pink! I was quoting that as an example of how it shouldn't have to be one style extreme or the other. It should be possible to make sporty looking sandals in a way that will appeal to girls but without being suitable only for standing and watching other people have fun.

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EVye · 23/03/2010 20:43

I do agree with you. I took my 3 year old in last week and was offered 4 different pairs of white sandals, 3 different pairs of hideous pink shoes, and some doodles.

I took her to Barratts and bought some skechers.

SmithyTheBounder · 23/03/2010 20:50

Anner, I sort of agree with you, and I admire your willingness to try to do something about it. However, I don't see why you don't just buy StartRite instead. I do intermittently look at Clarks for DD, and am always rather disappointed, so retreat back to the safety of StartRite. That said, she had a pair of Clarks strappy sandals last summer (she's 5.9 now), and they didn't stop her from running, jumping, climbing trees, walking six miles, biking, etc, etc, etc - in fact, copying everything her big brother does. She just got them dirty, which is what happens to shoes. To my mind, it's an improvement on those pesky plastic clip-clop dressing-up shoes that she used to try to walk in when she was three!

Annner · 23/03/2010 21:30

I found myself wondering why I was hung up on Clarks: after all, we do usually end up with Startrite, and by hunting around on the Internet we can find alternatives.

I guess that what it boils down to is that Clarks are one of the UK's most heavily advertised shoe brands. Aside from the debate over where their shoes are made nowadays, they posit themselves as a UK company, selling shoes to the UK from shops on most of our high streets. They are happy to sell themselves as a brand for the family and above all as a responsible manufacturer that cares about the health of children's feet, etc.

Now I am not naive. I know that the bottom line for all companies is the bottom line. But if you sell yourself as being responsible, I do think that you create for yourself a responsibility to consider how you present yourself, and Clarks just aren't doing that. When it is possible for them to produce this this for me, which is clearly a women's shoe, but a practical one, we're not looking at a complex wish here.

I've posted here before about the whole pink thing, and totally buy into PinkStink's arguments. This time I'm finding the style issue the harder one to swallow. It's impossible to know whether your DD would have been as active/ more active/ less active in a more robust shoe if that shoe was not made available to you to choose in the first place.

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PixieOnaLeaf · 23/03/2010 21:39

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Lionstar · 23/03/2010 21:42

I'm with you OP. Why can't they produce some more unisex shoes and sandals, why do they have to be at such extremes? I want shoes for my DD that are as sturdy as the boys ones, but perhaps in slightly different colours. TBH I usually buy her the boys shoes becuase the girls ones just are not sturdy enough for running around the park or nursery etc. Most of the shoes we have bought have been fine if it were not for the boy (cars, dinosaurs etc) motifs on.

StartRite sometimes have a better range, but far too many leather mary jane types that just get scuffed to death. The Ecco brand are actually reasonably acceptable.

I avoid Clarkes now, local independent shops get my business.

Annner · 23/03/2010 21:50

If you compare the thickness of the strap and the sole, there is nothing like as much ankle support. The point is the strappiness rather than the comfort.

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paisleyleaf · 23/03/2010 21:51

I do quite like these though.

Annner · 23/03/2010 21:53

Yup, Paisleyleaf - but is there any grip on that sole? Going back to my hypothetical dash down a grassy bank? I probably wouldn't.

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ToccataAndFudge · 23/03/2010 21:53

they had nice boys shoes in Clarks - bloody hell that's a first.

Annner · 23/03/2010 21:54

Good to see everyone browsing the Clark's website, though

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