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So is it just a choice between Labour or The Tories?

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MoreSpamThanGlam · 03/01/2010 19:34

Because I cant stand either of them. Old Labour yes, but New Labour are so like the Conservatives now, it seems like a bit of a joke....a bit like the Emperors New Clothes. We all think we have a choice but really we dont.

We dont get to vote on anything do we? We vote for a five year dictator who makes his own mind up as he goes along. What they say today could all change tomorrow and just get blamed on the past government. Isnt that always their excuse?

It all seems a bit bleak.

Apathetic? Yep.

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FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 19:38

I see where you are coming from but, sadly, voter apathy could mean that some toppsot party could run the government. What's the lesser of two evils?

hannahsaunt · 03/01/2010 19:52

Be grateful - we have the SNP factor to counter; voter apathy here resulted in too much power to the SNP and they are an even worse bunch; I may even prefer DC to Alex Salmond (and that's saying something .

FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 19:53

I'm just hoping voter apathy doesn't allow the BNP to work their way in!!

Cyclops · 03/01/2010 19:53

Don't more people vote for contestants on CBB than at elections?!

mumblechum · 03/01/2010 19:54

I honestly don't know who to vote for. I know what I'd like to see changing but don't know who would have the guts to do it.

Katz · 03/01/2010 19:54

well you could vote liberal if enough people did it could make a difference.

Paolosgirl · 03/01/2010 19:57

Agree with Hannah. Alex Salmond is on a personal quest to take over the world whilst waving a Saltire and shouting "death to all ye English bastarrrrrrrds" to anyone who will listen (and of course the rest of the world leaders look at him and say Alex who?)

He's fast becoming a comedy character who really should just shut up.

In answer to your question, I agree. It seems to always come down to the same left v. right debate, and nothing really changes. I'd never not vote, but it does seem increasingly pointless.

YouKnowStuffingIsForLunch · 03/01/2010 19:58

I think we're convinced by certain "bodies" that there is no choice. But if all the non-voters who believe we cannot change things were to vote, then the power we could wield would be immense.

I'm old-Labour, new-Nothing and I think I might vote Lib Dem for the first time.

Still undecided currently and waiting for someone to convince me.

I don't want the Tories in, I remember them all to well, but Labour have let me down.

So count me as one of the clueless-optimists for now. Although I'm not sure what that means.

FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 20:05

The tories now will not be the same as the tories of old though, there's different people running the party, it's the same with all the others. Labour used to be a working people's party, they went off the rails and changed beyond all recognition. Labour lost my respect when the war in Iraq began, there were so many people in our country who were against it, they were in power to represent us and they didn't listen.

TheCrackFox · 03/01/2010 20:10

Frankie Boyle said recently about Alex Salmond that "he has higher cholesterol than a fried egg".

I have no idea who to vote for, I really think they are all a bunch of twats. TBH I would need a gun held to my head before I vote for Labour - mainly because of Iraq.

FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 20:20

The only time I ever here from the lib dem council woman here is when there's an election looming. Doesn't bode well IMO.

I'm going to vote conservative. For the next general election someone should set up a Mumsnet party , "by the people, for the people"

ApuskiDusky · 03/01/2010 20:23

I agree with the sentiment of it feeling like there is no choice between the two big parties. I'm pinning my hopes on a hung parliament - it seems that the Tories need a pretty big swing to get a majority, and they just might not get enough. There's no point in voting labour where I am, I will vote lib dem in the hope that the Tories won't quite get enough support and different parties will actually have to work with each other.

YouKnowStuffingIsForLunch · 03/01/2010 20:23

But Fluffy, the Tories supported the war. They'd have done the same thing. This doesn't inspire confidence in me.

Love the idea of an MN party, we'd certainly have some diverse policies

FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 20:25

Did they support it or were they misled like the rest of us?

A MN party will be cracking, wine on tap at the end of each street, better facilities for parents/carers. I'll be the leader

YouKnowStuffingIsForLunch · 03/01/2010 20:31

Ooh can I be chancellor?

They supported it. I believe that. I was very disappointed in them as it seemed like a really good opportunity to create an "opposing" party. The Lib Dems were actively against it.

No matter how misled they were, they knew the UN were against is and they supported taking Britain to an illegal war.

That isn't a great recommendation IMO.

FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 20:57

To be honest, it's a two horse race, it always has been a two horse race. I don't think that the Lib Dems will get into the race, they may get close though but a hung parliament will not do well as they clearly are unable to work together. The conservatives are the lesser of the two evils and I quite like David Cameron.

You can be chancellor. We need a minister for family affairs, health secretary, defence, minister for schools and childrens services.

YouKnowStuffingIsForLunch · 03/01/2010 21:02

Excellent, I will do my best fluffy.

I know it's a two horse race. But I also know that, that is only because we all choose to make it so. There is no good and bad there is just a lesser of two evils.

FluffyForLifeNotJustForXmas · 03/01/2010 21:55

I know. But.....for the next general elecion it will be a three horse race, with the MN party winning!

YouKnowStuffingIsForLunch · 03/01/2010 21:57

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BonjourIvressedeNoel · 03/01/2010 22:10

I know its simplistic, but if enough people voted liberal, they would get in or share power, but lots of people beleive that they won't so don't bother voting for them.

YouKnowStuffingIsForLunch · 03/01/2010 22:12

Bonjour, this time I'm voting liberal and hoping enough people follow suit. This country needs a three party system. It really does.

flockwallpaper · 03/01/2010 23:57

More choice is better.

Could shorter terms in office make people more inclined give a third party a chance? For example, three years? What do you think? I can immediately think of some pros and cons.

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MoreSpamThanGlam · 04/01/2010 11:24

But shorter terms in office could mean that nothing really gets done.

Just out of curiosity, and I am being serious here....why not a Mumsnet party?

Most of the women on here talk more sense than Cameron or Brown...

I'm so tired of us all stating the obvious and being the voice of reason and being totally ignored.

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flockwallpaper · 04/01/2010 12:25

MSTG, that would probably be the main downside I agree.

Mumsnet party - I like the idea and I agree that there is a lot more sense on here than in the house of commons at times, but would anything ever be agreed or would we just spend loads of time debating? I have seen just about every policical viewpoint on here, from far right to far left.

Katz · 04/01/2010 14:20

Does anyone remember a tv show where a mum took on the general election and won, starred Jane Horricks i think.