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The Queen's Speech - Newsnight would like to know what we think of it

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JustineMumsnet · 18/11/2009 10:15

Good morning Mumsnetters,
Newsnight's Michael Crick is coming to visit and wants to know about what we all think of the government's plans as to be revealed (but of course already heavily trailed) in the Queen's Speech Today.

Here's a helpful summary from the BBC.

So what are your thoughts please?

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notwavingjustironing · 18/11/2009 16:35

let it play Call of Duty when it really should be doing homework.

Deadworm · 18/11/2009 16:36

give it Ferrero Rocher

MadameDefarge · 18/11/2009 16:36

...and not make it tidy it's bedroom because it's "tired".

Deadworm · 18/11/2009 16:37

"Mr Disaffected Voter, with these random swearwords and crossings out you are really spoiling us."

MadameDefarge · 18/11/2009 16:37

deadworm, do you also take it to the ambassador's receptions?

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 16:40

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MadameDefarge · 18/11/2009 16:42

It is rather marvellous,Lenin, and I have to say that with hindsight it is probably a really good thing that the official relationship with a certain paper came to nought.

onebatmother · 18/11/2009 16:45

my nerfs are in tatters

if you put mumsnet into google news you get Polish websites.

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 18/11/2009 16:45

My vote goes to Dizzie Rascal

Peachy · 18/11/2009 16:45

Whilst it (or rather a lot of it) sounds good, the reality is that like most things it's all definition dependant.

So child poverty is entirely down to definition; most people would agree that famillies such as ours (one student/ PT worker, one carer as parents) shouldn't have to refuse school trips because of finances (I mean at primary level,not those ski trips etc that crop up later on)- but whether we are poor depends entirely on where you sett that bar. I'd say borderline myself, we cope but it wouldn't take much to lose everything.

Likewise enabling people to access those services to which they are entitled; great aim, but all services do (IME, and I have quite a lot of it sadly) is change their definitions- disability does not cover autism, or someone without learning disabilities, or blind people..... they find get out clauses. It needs to be enshrined in legislation exactly what a disability / poverty / etc is- and the only term that will suffice for disability is 'in receipt of DLA' (as that is neeeds assessed rather than all on a label).

Cluster bombs- hurrah.

Pensioners- so important to enable the delivery of good socialcare services, but I suspect that whilst this remains a SocialServices responsibility the same tactics re definitions etc will exist.

But the test will be what actually is done. I do not want to see the Labour Government end whilst it means a Conservatie one gets in, but I'd be surprised if much of this were ever deliverd.

onebatmother · 18/11/2009 16:47

lol DWP

onebatmother · 18/11/2009 16:53

yes peachy - relative definitions are never going to really work are thye?

notwavingjustironing · 18/11/2009 17:00

Does this now make us "The Voice of Britain" rather than the Daily Express?

Peachy · 18/11/2009 17:46

sadly, I rather fear it makes us the voice of dumb questions post-biscuits- and a sure fire way to get coverage.

(I am sure we can show them otherwise though)

MadameDefarge · 18/11/2009 17:56

I disagree Peachy, it seems to be much more a case of no publicity is bad publicity....MN is now even more out there and being taken seriously as a sounding board of public opinion...few will remember biscuitgate as the catalyst, but they might well remember MN as a force in British political life....

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 18:00

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bossykate · 18/11/2009 18:10

i hope the MN feature is not going to be smirky, knowing, patronising, sexist shoite like the "biscuitgate" debacle...

OmicronPersei8 · 18/11/2009 18:15

Lenin, That's the crux of it, isn't it? The things that makes MN great - intelligent women (and a few men) who argue, take an interest, ask questions etc - make us so attractive to politicians and journalists. Just like we get the excitement of talking to GB/DC etc, they get the thrill of having a direct, real-time conversation with people who actually do and will vote. Add in the frisson of the undecided voter...

Of course, that's not exactly how it is, but how it can be construed.

Deadworm · 18/11/2009 18:24

The things that are great about MN wit and wisdom etc aren't what appeals to politicians surely. The demographic is the appeal.

OmicronPersei8 · 18/11/2009 18:26

In the face of apathy though, it must be nice to 'meet' people who actually care/vote though.

OmicronPersei8 · 18/11/2009 18:27

Could I say though a few more times?

FlorenceandtheWashingMachine · 18/11/2009 18:37

Go on then. If it makes you happy.

WilfSell · 18/11/2009 19:12

Is it Paxo tonight? I do hope he is intelligent enough not to patronise us. Reports indicate that he is lovely and on the side of People in the Ethernet Street by asking the questions we can't.

I lay down my gauntlet in front of his stellar intellect.

Otherwise, I'll 'ave 'im.

LadyBlaBlah · 18/11/2009 19:20

Secret crush on Paxo. Despite the nose.

onebatmother · 18/11/2009 19:42

not sure about the bouff mese'n