Olly Robbins has just nuked the premiership of Sir Keir Starmer

[ProudAmberTurtle]

What are the implications of Olly Robbins’s testimony for Starmer?

There was so much in his testimony that was damaging but surely the worst was that:

• He was instructed by No. 10 to find an ambassador's job for Starmer's then director of communications, Matthew Doyle
• He was told not to tell the foreign secretary about this
• Robbins considered leaving his role because this request was so unusual and inappropriate
• Doyle was then suspended from the Labour Party due to his links with a convicted paedophile (not Epstein).

And on Mandelson, he said there was "constant pressure" for him to fast-track the appointment, there was no interest in the vetting from the PM, concerns about the vetting were dismissed by No. 10 and Mandelson had already been given IT access that should only have been granted after the vetting process.

What can Starmer do now? Say Robbins was lying?

The PP didn't miss anything

It does amuse me how you all u-turned on using polls since the GE

The PP (being you) said that Starmer was more popular than all the other leaders that as it turns out are in reality actually in fact more popular than Starmer.

We were just giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't seek to deliberately mislead the House thread, by suggesting that perhaps you missed some punctuation. But I see you have clarified that you meant what you typed.

His net favourability is below, it’s the lowest, perhaps for anyone at any time. Not sure which poll you’re referring to.

Kier the construction firm? I didn't know they had moved into the political arena.

@TheLandlordsAreFrowning Very very witty, really good.

Labour supporters have access to all sorts of polls and statistics that others don’t; opinion polls, unemployment figures, crime statistics, immigration numbers etc. This is why they disregard all the opinions based on mainstream ones.

Isn’t it KEIR? So No!

There is no denying the (un)popularity ratings, but voting will be more complex than that. Looking at recent by-elections (both national and local), there does seem to be some emerging pattern at times of either voting for Reform, or voting strategically to keep Reform out.

An Ipsos poll published earlier this month shows that despite his low popularity, those polled still preferred a Labour government led by Starmer to a Reform government led by Farage (can we assume they’re not expecting a Tory or Green majority from that?).

Labour mayor Andy Burnham is the politician with the highest favourability.

I’ll add image and link to wider poll: www.ipsos.com/en-uk/when-forced-choose-britons-prefer-labour-government-led-keir-starmer-reform-uk-government-led-nigel

The local elections will put it into practise. We’ll see if people prefer Labour still or not.

I know you meant me with PP, my username is only 6 letters long so not much effort to type.

I think you misunderstood what I said, I didn't deny he is unpopular but despite that he is still seen as the most capable PM compared to KB and NF

I didn't say anything about misleading the House or thread? Perhaps you missed the context?

Would it please you if people prefer Reform?

The only thing that will truly test this is the next General Election in 2029.

(Although I fully expect that Labour will suffer huge losses at the upcoming local elections for many different reasons).

It depends what you’re looking at More in Common put Kemi as most popular

Kemi Badenoch has become the most popular political party leader as the public warms to her straight talking, a poll has revealed.
The Conservative leader has seen a significant boost to her popularity in recent months, surpassing Reform UK leader Nigel Farage in approval ratings.
Mrs Badenoch has a net approval rating of minus 9 – a remarkable change of fortunes for the Toryleader, who had a minus 32 net rating ahead of her party conference in October.

She is ahead of Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey, on minus 11, and Mr Farage, on minus 16, the survey by pollsters More In Common found.
The Leader of the Opposition is also ahead of Green Party leader Zack Polanski, who sits on minus 16 despite his party seeing an upturn in the polls. And Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer is behind all four major party leaders on a lowly minus 42.

All the numbers show some leaders up and others down, in the end the votes will count. Local and regional elections soon for example.

You referred to yourself as the PP though? Thats why I carried on with your example as you set it?

You said "The polls say that people still prefer Starmer over Badenoch, Farage, Davey, Polanski.". Which polls?

Im suggesting you weren't intentionally misleading the House (topical joke)/thread because maybe you gave false information by mistake because you missed the "-" sign in KSs popularity scores. Just kindly trying to give you a way out.....