Why would people be even more prepared to vote for Trump now?

[BIWI]

According to a piece in the paper today, 25% of Republicans said they would vote for Trump if he was convicted.

Now he's been found guilty on all 34 counts, so presumably will be more electable.

Why?!

Is it just that Americans see Biden as too old/unelectable?

But even if that is so, why on earth do American voters think it's OK to vote in someone who is so clearly dishonest as their next president?

I really don't understand the mentality.

I really don't like Trump or his ilk but why do some on the left always insult anyone who disagrees with them and resort to name calling?

I've seen it more and more in the UK and its really off putting as a floating voter.

These are some interesting points, thank you.

I disagree. I think the error is to underestimate your political opponents.

Erm, Trump stacked the Supreme Court so that abortion rights could be removed from women. That ban on abortion includes women and girls who have been raped being forced to carry to term, even if victims of child rape.

I’m as GC as they come, but your post illustrates the dangerous approach to single issue politics that is currently taking hold. You are implying that Trump, who as well as effectively banning abortion has bragged about sexually assaulting women, and has been accused of rape and sexual assault by several, is somehow a better President for women than Biden?!

I genuinely don't understand. There are other men (and women) in the US, besides these two old men - right? Why are they the only choices?! They're both ridiculous.

I think it's because he's a bit like Boris Johnson, quite funny, amusing to watch, never quite sure what will happen next...

But seriously, that's all well and good, but as basically the most powerful person in the world, no no no no no no no no no....

My point (poorly put) is we tend to overestimate ourselves.
We cite reason, evident justice and rationale for our own selection and ignorance, irrationality and prejudice for our opponents.
Liberals are actually very good at looking for the rationale in the opposition, but less good at seeing the ignorance, irrationality and prejudice in our own views.

Because they believe conspiracy theory, even when they are voting for a conspiracy master. (Courtesy of Marina Hyde, but well said).

I think they're matching the energy of some of the right, with their "snowflake" insults.

Crowd chanting for Trump at little Tommy Robinson’s knees-up today. The Mango megalomaniac is the only one who can save the West apparently.

https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1796953985871495315

I find it strange that so many people claim to understand how trump won the last election, but then go on to call people pale male and stale, rednecks, and stupid.

Because clearly this is not the way to get people to change their minds about anything.

Trump played a masterful game by listening to those people and targeting them as previously the politicians had ignored the areas that they lived in and listened to them.

He is playing the same game now. And throwing in more spin about corruption this time in the judicial system.

The way to stop him is to listen to the people and try and get them on side. but they don't seem to want to do that and are happy to do the same things that lost them the election before.

And remember this isn't about the number of votes its about winning enough votes in the right places to win the electoral college.

I really don't know enough (anything, actually) about the American electoral process.

That's precisely how he got in the first time. The democrats thought his supporters were stupid and 'thick as mince'.

I'm of the unpopular opinion that most of these politicians are as dirty as each other - it's just that Trump got caught. I do not think Biden or Clinton or any of the others is any better.

So if you start from the belief system they're all as bad as each other, it's just that Trump doesn't hide it, in a roundabout sort of way I can see why some would vote for him.

Of the two die-hard Trump fans I know, one claims he was good for the US economy (which may be true; I know nothing about that), and the other is an Evangelical Christian. Which is utterly baffling to me. I can't think of anyone less Christ-like, or who embodies fewer of the values that Christians claim to espouse, than Trump.
On a barely related note, did anyone else catch that soundbyte of him saying after his conviction that his witnesses has been "literally crucified"? I couldn't work out if he was blaspheming or just doesn't know the meaning of the word 'literally' 🤔

It was interesting that Trump said he'd need to appeal the verdict because it was a conviction against everyone. At first it sounds like a narcissist soundbite, but you can see where he's going with it-that he wants people to conflate in their minds his power with theirs. Real gaslighting stuff.

I'm rather enjoying the 'Trump-splaining' in here. Carry on girls.

I can't imagine we'd be taken in by a bullshitting charlatan with stupid hair here.

I think we're definitely above that @Hatfullofwillow

Oh, if only ...

The line is that the Democrats are elitist, don’t care about the real concerns of the working person, obsessed with what’s labeled as ‘woke’; by contrast Trump is viewed as scrappy, inappropriate, says what many people want to hear, transcends the rules…and a lot of people feel that the rules don’t serve them or support them. So ironically whilst he himself is the epitome of privilege he sort of embodies anti-privilege.

So his convictions make him more of an outlaw plus people think, who gives a shit? Fix the country!

It’s the sort of switcheroo which can also be seen in trans activism where even female victims of rape are positioned as less victimised than their male ‘female identified’ rapists. In-plain-sight bullshit pushed aggressively as ‘the truth’.